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[Helwintr]

this is not cool to do to founders. i already payed 60 bucks for this game and have yet to think this game was worth that cash. but if they want us to pay so we can play as a team which is one of their greatest ideals, i'm calling crap when i see it and this one is big. pgi is trolling for money again me thinks

[Sifright]

valkyrie, on 29 March 2013 - 06:44 PM, said:

File that under "duh." Either PGI is the greediest, least trustworthy company on the planet or they're being forced to do everything they said they wouldn't. You could tell this was going on during the coolant and third person disasters, but nobody wanted to listen when I said that. Even so, they should still be held accountable for collaborating.

PGI reaaaaally needs to hire a PR team who doesn't consider ******* off the community part of their job description.

Not sure thats true though dude, some of the PGI devs came out and said specifically that IGP had nothing to do with the coolant fiasco. It's PGI looking for a way to line their pockets causing this, not IGP.

[Markus Haelur]

I love the battletech lore, and I am okay with paying for hero mechs, paints, mechbays, etc... But asking us to pay more to be apart of a group of friends and to have us maintain a premium account just to be able to play a major part of the game?

[Felicitatem Parco]

I heard from my super-secret contact in Support that an official acknowledgement will be made by some member of the game staff soon ( not Soon™).

It will most likely NOT be a full-blown explanation of everything to come, but they are onto it, they hear us, and they are at least stewing over it like we are.

Edited by Prosperity Park, 29 March 2013 - 06:48 PM.

[Slaytronic]

Kill Dozer, on 29 March 2013 - 06:36 PM, said:

If PGI makes merc corps and player controlled units pay to play it will be the end of this game.

I'll uninstall it, curse the name of PGI and never look back until the next iteration of Mechwarrior comes along.

me and My **** ton of money also buddy

[CrunchTheRobot]

Many people have already made very excellent points on why this is a bad idea, so I won't repeat what has already been said.

What I will say, is that I honestly had faith in you, PGI. Paying to play in a merc corp? That idea is absolutely outrageous. I feel as if I have been violently slapped in the face.

This is, by far, the worst news regarding MWO that I have ever heard. You're gonna need one hell of an explanation to clear this up, PGI.

[Sifright]

now for a levity post

http://www.youtube.c...e&v=ZZ5LpwO-An4

"I STEP OUTSIDE AND I TAKE A DEEP DEEP BREATH AN I GET REAL HIGH, AN I SCREAM AT THE TOP OF MY LUNGS AAH WHATS GOING ON?"

Edited by Sifright, 29 March 2013 - 06:49 PM.

[Wintersdark]

Prosperity Park, on 29 March 2013 - 06:42 PM, said:

Actually, the discussion about burnt food offerings was back at page, what, like 16 or something like that. Once again, the idea outlined in the article says you can play in house units for free (with or without friends) , as a lone wolf for free, or need to have a premium account to play as a merc. I am not defending anything or confirming the accuracy of anything, but I want to make sure we're at least on the same page... Something that I goofed up on royally earlier in the thread.

This is a pretty serious breakdown, too.

It's a profoundly bad idea to make such vague and obviously inflammatory statements shortly before a holiday, then wander off without clarification (or even actually stating it) on their own forums.

People are really upset, and there's likely a lot of people really pissed off without actually knowing how this is going to play out.

But this, for once, isn't a forum overreaction. Community Warfare is *THE* promised feature of this game, it's the game people have waited for.

It's been under a total communications blackout for... well, since the start of open beta at least. There's been NOTHING.

Now we get an offhand statement like this? Right before a long weekend, and nobody thinks it would be a good idea to clarify anything on the official forums?

How can this end in anything good whatsoever?

[Budor]

lol mercs...

[Murasama]

My interpretation of this is that being part of a merc corp is just like premium time is now, only group wide. CW is still availabe to factions and lone wolves, but mercs get more loot, xp, prestige and whatever other fluff the devs come up with.

At least I hope this is the case.

[TexAce]

Prosperity Park, on 29 March 2013 - 01:37 PM, said:

Also, the Developers will not force people to maintain Premium Accounts in order to be in a Merc Corp.

This is MWO. I dont know if I should laugh or cry.

[Moro Ibex]

Sifright, on 29 March 2013 - 06:48 PM, said:

now for a levity post

http://www.youtube.c...e&v=ZZ5LpwO-An4

"I STEP OUTSIDE AND I TAKE A DEEP DEEP BREATH AN I GET REAL HIGH, AN I SCREAM AT THE TOP OF MY LUNGS AAH WHATS GOING ON?"

Really? a 4NonBlondes reference? With a Heman reference? this could be the high point of the thread right here. Thats the 80s, the 90s, and Mechwarrior all in one post.

On topic however: I wouldn't be against something like a monthly cost for a merc corp. even if that monthly cost was MC. Just make sure the corp leaders have a general MC account people can donate into. No one chips in, they don't have a corp.


on edit: hellfire, quoted the wrong damn thread

Edited by Moro Ibex, 29 March 2013 - 06:53 PM.

[Devil Fox]

But why do we want to play for free in House units or lone wolf... their good for cbill grinding, some mindless indulgence in killing stuff or just a way to release steam, also for those who like to role-play their games... but the draw card was CW, which implies fighting against the community units for prestige and cbills. When this content is found in Merc Unit's where everyone's taste is similar (everyone favors a different house) and a history is formed, why then must we pay for it?

Still haven't seen one reason why we should P2Play with friends in a uniform coherent unit? Otherwise you have your unit split across how many house factions? What's then the purpose of having created our Merc Corps over the last year, if a percentage of players will never have the incentive or the ability to outlay money just to play with friends?

It just makes me want to leave my unit because I would never be able to help them in the meta game... probably end up in a more complete, more immersive and fun game... which if PGI keep pushing these ideas through is what we're moving from...

[SmokinDave73]

This is not what I wanted to read about while having breakfast... I did not support this game as a founder to play a subscrption model game, I payed to support a f2p game.

[Felicitatem Parco]

Sifright, on 29 March 2013 - 06:48 PM, said:

"I STEP OUTSIDE AND I TAKE A DEEP DEEP BREATH AN I GET REAL HIGH, AN I SCREAM AT THE TOP OF MY LUNGS AAH WHATS GOING ON?"

You live next to an illegal grow-op that caught on fire when they overloaded an extension cord, that's all.

Okay, seeing that there will be an official post thing soon, I am going to do stuff around my house for a bit and let others work with the comments about the official acknowledgement.... See ya'll dirt-side...

[Taj the White Tiger]

Prosperity Park, on 29 March 2013 - 06:46 PM, said:

I heard from my super-secret contact in Support that an official acknowledgement will be made by some member of the game staff soon ( not Soon™).

It will most likely NOT be a full-blown explanation of everything to come, but they are onto it, they hear us, and they are at least stewing over it like we are.

Respectfully i doubt it will actually address the main concerns

The exact same thing happened with the coolant issue and PGI's statement amounted to barely changing anything from what we actually though it was

I see no reason they'll change there modus operedi for this

Edited by Taj the White Tiger, 29 March 2013 - 06:52 PM.

[Sifright]

Moro Ibex, on 29 March 2013 - 06:51 PM, said:

Really? a 4NonBlondes reference? With a Heman reference? this could be the high point of the thread right here. Thats the 80s, the 90s, and Mechwarrior all in one post.

On topic however: I wouldn't be against something like a monthly cost for a merc corp. even if that monthly cost was MC. Just make sure the corp leaders have a general MC account people can donate into. No one chips in, they don't have a corp.


on edit: hellfire, quoted the wrong damn thread

D:

[zmeul]

wait what?!
my jaw dropped

so, PGI is not only splitting the community, they're fragmenting it to hell
there will be segregated regional servers, out of those: 1st person players, 3rd person players, both; and out of those some will pay for CW while others won't

gee .. I can now feel proud I haven't spent a single cent on MWO

[Havok1978]