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[MadBomberMan]

Cicada X5, oh my goodness.

See? This is what I'm talking about when I say "Focused Hero Mechs" Bravo

I'm 2/2 happy right now with the Yen-Lo-Wang (from the 30% off sale) and now the Cicada X5 Hero Mechs.

Are there any other Hero Mech Recommendations out there? I like all weight classes, and to me the YLW and the X5 are what I would call "Focused." What other Hero Mechs might I like?

Can we get a Dragon Hero Mech in the future?

Also, how to unlock modules? And Supposedly there is Pilot EXP? Do Garage slots ever go on sale?

[Budor]

Ilya is pretty "focused" if you mean that theres that 1 build that really works wonders: 3x uac5 + 2-3x mlas

[von Pilsner]

Dragon: Flame (good hardpoint layout for a Dragon)
Cataphract: Ilya Muromets (good ballistic and laser mech, remember not to stare at your enemy when they shoot back though...)

[Monky]

Budor, on 06 March 2013 - 04:56 PM, said:

Ilya is pretty "focused" if you mean that theres that 1 build that really works wonders: 3x uac5 + 2-3x mlas

I would recommend avoid Ilya if you don't like UAC5, it's the only build that's on my radar when I'm up against them, but if the OP likes the YLW, they might have what it takes to enjoy the Ilya with other setups. I don't own either, so take this with a grain of salt.

Edited by Monky, 06 March 2013 - 05:23 PM.

[Rayah]

MadBomberMan, on 06 March 2013 - 04:56 PM, said:

Can we get a Dragon Hero Mech in the future?

We have two of them... and I don't like either.

Flame>Fang though...

Sucks that I thought of a decent Flame build after I sold it...

Edited by Rayzor, 06 March 2013 - 05:25 PM.

[Tarman]

I've heard some Dragon pilots like the Fang and Flame. I have them because of the Pokemon Effect but I haven't really gotten great at getting the most out of any Dragon. I really like the Marmoset, but I <3 all the Catas. Much more my ride. Cata for dakka.

[MadBomberMan]

One thing that I never fully grasped is how an AC/2 can have such a longer range (higher velocity/more aerodynamically shaped round obviously) than an AC/20 and not do as much damage at closer ranges. Yeah I know it is a video game, but this boggles my mind.

The Flame is a handsome beast,even without any flamers in its loadout? lol
Personally I'd drop the ER laser in favor of Med Laser X2
Or Scrap the AC/2 Altogether and go X2 Large Laser

As for the Ilya what do you need all those different caliber cannons for?
Even 6,000 MC Pretty Baby looks like it is spread rather thin instead of just dropping the BS and going X2 PPC.
They both have a colorful weapons loadout, but neither says "This Mech Doesn't F---- around" like the YLW or the X5.
Very efficient IMHO.

[Monky]

MadBomberMan, on 06 March 2013 - 05:33 PM, said:

One thing that I never fully grasped is how an AC/2 can have such a longer range (higher velocity/more aerodynamically shaped round obviously) than an AC/20 and not do as much damage at closer ranges. Yeah I know it is a video game, but this boggles my mind.

The Flame is a handsome beast,even without any flamers in its loadout? lol
Personally I'd drop the ER laser in favor of Med Laser X2
Or Scrap the AC/2 Altogether and go X2 Large Laser

As for the Ilya what do you need all those different caliber cannons for?
Even 6,000 MC Pretty Baby looks like it is spread rather thin instead of just dropping the BS and going X2 PPC.
They both have a colorful weapons loadout, but neither says "This Mech Doesn't F---- around" like the YLW or the X5.
Very efficient IMHO.

Arguably it's due to the size of the shell - a bigger shell travels less distance before losing speed, but has much more follow through. Think musket ball vs catapult rock. Granted, it's a crude comparison, and the scaling damage past max range on MWO's ballistics really doesn't reflect that they're all HEAP rounds anyways, but it's roughly the principle behind it. Also, don't look too deep into the physics of it, at a certain, fairly shallow point, none of it makes any sense whatsoever.

[Mahws]

The Fang is pretty lackluster, anything it can do the 1C can do better. Minus having two ballistic weapons, but why on earth you'd want that in a Dragon is beyond me. Really anything smaller than an AC10 is a bad idea on a Dragon.

The Flame certainly has my recommendation though.

High torso mounted Ballistic point means great accuracy and the ability to shoot over rises without exposing anything but your cockpit and shoulders. And like all Dragons an XL engine is an actual option, if only because of the extremely hard to hit side torsos.

STD300
AC20
4xML

90 k/ph, 40 point alpha, accurate ballistics and mobile lasers make it a hell of a killer. Other builds I've seen are the XL Gauss/Large Laser builds, but I've never gotten around to trying them, like my AC20 too much.

[Flying Judgement]

its makes me wounder did any of u who think the 5 X is the best cicada, did really went in the beauty of the others?
2A the best 4 coring mech
3C my favorite sniper if the UAC not fails i can demolish an atlas in mere seconds.
3M the fast light hunter ECM with Pulse Mad laser runs 151
all of them have shields on the side to guard ur weapons
they are amazing all of them 5X is mainly a brawler and its wont be to popular when collision is back its limited not to much 4 customization on top its easy to lose 2 lesser lrm useless in it srms take a lot of ton and space cicadas are energy boats with big fire power but very bad heat efficiency

Edited by Flying Judgement, 06 March 2013 - 05:44 PM.

[MadBomberMan]

Flying Judgement, on 06 March 2013 - 05:42 PM, said:

its makes me wounder did any of u who think the 5 X is the best cicada, did really went in the beauty of the others?
2A the best 4 coring mech
3C my favorite sniper if the UAC not fails i can demolish an atlas in mere seconds.
3M the fast light hunter ECM with Pulse Mad laser runs 151
all of them have shields on the side to guard ur weapons
they are amazing all of them 5X is mainly a brawler and its wont be to popular when collision is back its limited not to much 4 customization on top its easy to lose 2 lesser lrm useless in it srms take a lot of ton and space cicadas are energy boats with big fire power but very bad heat efficiency

I confess I really only have experience with last weeks trial mechs, the YLW the X5 and I put together 2 builds of my own with the 50/50 sale, the Atlas and the Cat.
IDK, I just think that having more punch in a more easily accountable range (i.e. X2 of something) is so much more effective than having to worry about designating the right laser to the right range X1, X1, X1 etc.

[Lucky Noob]

you "unlock" Modules with GXP, dont spend em on Pilot skills, you need all for the Modules.

after you unlocked it you can buy em for C Bi8lls and fit em into your Mech.

[MadBomberMan]

Braddack, on 06 March 2013 - 05:52 PM, said:

you "unlock" Modules with GXP, dont spend em on Pilot skills, you need all for the Modules.

after you unlocked it you can buy em for C Bi8lls and fit em into your Mech.

Pilot skills are no good? I am all about the Crew/Pilot EXP

[Lucky Noob]

Pilot skills are great, you unlock em with your Pilot Exp, The Modules you unlock with GXP.

[MadBomberMan]

21,000 EXP holy moly!

[Lucky Noob]

hehe, and you need 3 Variants all basic to unlock elite ( doubles bonus from basic skills) and 3 variants all elite to unlock Masterskill

We all need an Goal.

[Dreamslave]

Rayzor, on 06 March 2013 - 05:24 PM, said:

Flame<Fang though...

Sucks that I thought of a decent Flame build after I sold it...

FTFY

To explain, the Flame has only 5 tubes in it's missile launcher, meaning an SRM/6 doesn't fire all missiles at once. Let alone the fact that the majority of the Flames firepower is on both of its arms, meaning you can easily semi-neuter it.

Personally, having driven both mechs in an effort to find a competent build, I would avoid them entirely unless you are a die hard DRG fan. There are better mechs out there.

As a suggestion that many other posters have already brought forth, the ILYA is probably the "best" hero mech at the moment, vastly outnumbering the amount of other heroes I have seen on the field of battle and being the only hero mech I consistently see in 8 mans.

[Johnny Morgan]

Flame is one of my favorite mechs, if you like a Striker mech that has long and short range fire power it's one of the best.

2xLL, 1xAC2, 2xML, 1XSRM6

[MadBomberMan]

Dreamslave, on 06 March 2013 - 06:05 PM, said:

As a suggestion that many other posters have already brought forth, the ILYA is probably the "best" hero mech at the moment, vastly outnumbering the amount of other heroes I have seen on the field of battle and being the only hero mech I consistently see in 8 mans.

Not knocking the Ilya, cause I never played it, but judging solely by its loadout, I would have went X2 AC/10's and drop the small laser for another medium. But then again, maybe the Small laser is a way to deal with those pesky lights...

Why can't I got directly from MechLab to PilotLab?

User Interface is very frustrating for such an awesome game.

[MadBomberMan]

What does the command console do? It doesnt say that it does anything in its description