69 replies to this topic

[Brut4ce]

Allekatrase, on 01 April 2013 - 09:55 PM, said:

Dead players should keep quiet. Period. They're dead.

They're not dead....Their mechs are disabled only if they get headshotted they are dead, and they cannot chat through the comms if that happens

[Corvus Antaka]

Royalewithcheese, on 01 April 2013 - 10:15 PM, said:

Honestly, I'm sort of happy this isn't in. I will totally accept bad advice and angry chat messages if it means that everyone is guaranteed to at least see it when someone posts "fast to kappa, slow to eps."

considering that we can mute/block in forums and the client, not bringing this more fully into the game remains a poor decision. as some have stated they dont want their kids exposed to the chat, as others like myself, sometimes we just want to play and not have to listen to the drivel.

PGI forcing this onto us is simply not cool.

Edited by Colonel Pada Vinson, 01 April 2013 - 10:20 PM.

[Heketon]

I still fire off LRMs at short ranges. Sometimes its a case of "teh dums" and sometimes I'm panic mashing every weapon I have.

What I can't stand are the people who ***** about how lousy "their team" was. "Nobody stayed in formation." "You should have focus fired." Really? Perhaps you should be calling out targets, then you armchair mechpilot, you.

[p00k]

Colonel Pada Vinson, on 01 April 2013 - 10:20 PM, said:

considering that we can mute/block in forums and the client, not bringing this more fully into the game remains a poor decision. as some have stated they dont want their kids exposed to the chat, as others like myself, sometimes we just want to play and not have to listen to the drivel.

PGI forcing this onto us is simply not cool.

just don't read the chat then. it's not like the text is in giant blinking red text obscuring your entire HUD while simultaneously being broadcast over your speakers in a computerized text-to-speech form

and as far as kids being exposed to unsavory language, well, if they're even playing the game, that means they're on the internet. which means they've already heard (well, read) every curse word, every racial slur, every bigoted hateful remark out there.

Heketon, on 01 April 2013 - 10:26 PM, said:

What I can't stand are the people who ***** about how lousy "their team" was. "Nobody stayed in formation." "You should have focus fired." Really? Perhaps you should be calling out targets, then you armchair mechpilot, you.

hard to call out targets when you're not on voice comms and are busy clicking instead of typing in chat. most decent players know to shoot what others are firing at without having to be told.

also, sometimes a team is just bad. does it do any good to whine about it in the chat? no. but when you feel like your team is playing hide and seek, and you're "it" despite your best attempts at finding *someone* to stick to, it can get frustrating. and sometimes you see the scoreboard at the end and words are just not enough

Edited by p00k, 01 April 2013 - 10:40 PM.

[Zolaz]

Dan the Ice Man, on 01 April 2013 - 08:53 PM, said:

People that think they know everything and HOW to play a game, but when they are dead.

my biggest wish that happens soon is that we have an option to shut the chat off, because i am getting real sick and tired of the backseat drivers.

I have a problem with this ...

Well, I had this one game where there was this commando who ran behind the long range PPC mechs and did not engage anything because the other team did not have any lights. He was the last guy standing and did 5 pts of damage before he died. Just because you were the last guy alive does not mean you know what you are doing. You were just the last guy.

He could have capped the opponents base. He could have weaved around the other team hitting people from behind and turning them around while his team was engaging. He could have done a lot of things to help out his team. What he did do was nothing. But, hey at least he was the last guys standing. No need to try and tell that guy anything, he knows what he is doing because you died before him.

But cool story bro.

Edited by Zolaz, 01 April 2013 - 10:28 PM.

[agenttbc]

I reserve the right to tell you to stop being a dumbass if we're playing conquest, have 3 bases, and are 20 points from winning and you're in a half-dead commando who thinks charging the enemy is a great idea when all you have to do is hide for 6 seconds to secure a victory.

[Faithsfall]

There is a difference to helping a fellow pilot and being rude about their playstyle,
If you are just complaining about your team not really helpful, but if you are pointing out weapon ranges, go cap etc then this is fine.

For instance in a game the other day where i was watching from the cockpit of a stalker and he turned his back on an atlas that he didn't see, told the pilot, he turned back and killed the atlas, he even said in chat afterwards thx for that i didn't see him, without the backseat pilot's he would have been the one to die.

Edited by Iceash, 01 April 2013 - 11:39 PM.

[MonkeyCheese]

Sounds like the OP was doing things completely wrong to get barked at in the first place.

[Eddrick]

One that bothered me a little was one was mentioning about the 90m minimum range on PPCs. But, the person didn't notice or knew that the ERPPCs have no minimum range.

[One Medic Army]

You know what I love? When I actually provide some useful advice only to be told "shut up, you're dead so you suck".

I don't care if I'm dead and you're alive, you're still wasting 6tons of weaponry if you have 3 AC/2s in the same firegroup set on chain fire! Drop the third or put one on a different firegroup, there's no point having 3 .5sec cooldown weapons with one firing every .25sec.

Listen to others, you might occasionally learn something.

Edited by One Medic Army, 02 April 2013 - 12:04 AM.

[Zen Hachetaki]

Delivery is everything - I have no problem with constructive advice - but someone using derogatory terms because they don't like your play style has no place. I once had a guy say "Sen (sic) I was spectating you most of the match and you are a complete MORON".

Wow. Awesome - so what didn't you like? That we won? That I was number one kills, assists and damage done? I kept a screeny of that game to remind myself of the idiots in this game - I only wish I knew how to scroll back up in the chat window as I did not catch his name. I did however get other posters telling me "GG" so I got over it pretty quickly.

Bottom line, be constructive even if being critical - otherwise you are just being a d!ck and stroking your own ego.

[RockWolf]

Slapping living people should be a module. After causing 400-700 points of damage and dying only to watch the healthy and only living dragon pug despreatly trying to shoot and kill a stripped stalker rather than shooting at the other 2 cored teammates killing him makes me want to cry in anger. Backseat driving is a necessity. Even the best jump sniper will not spot the raven or remember that a yellow jager has his right side cored out when he is concentrating on legging that centurion running straight at him. Some people really suck as a team player so they better not remove that only method to let that pug know that he should consider getting on teamspeak and play with people to learn from them.(expecting me to say F**** Y**?)

[Kekkone]

One Medic Army, on 01 April 2013 - 11:59 PM, said:

You know what I love? When I actually provide some useful advice only to be told "shut up, you're dead so you suck".

I don't care if I'm dead and you're alive, you're still wasting 6tons of weaponry if you have 3 AC/2s in the same firegroup set on chain fire! Drop the third or put one on a different firegroup, there's no point having 3 .5sec cooldown weapons with one firing every .25sec.

Listen to others, you might occasionally learn something.

I thought you could chain-fire weapons as fast as you can mash your mouse button (or fire firegroup key)?

Edited by Kekkone, 02 April 2013 - 12:46 AM.

[One Medic Army]

Kekkone, on 02 April 2013 - 12:38 AM, said:

You can chain-fire weapons as fast as you can mash your mouse button (or fire firegroup key).

Yes, he was just holding down the button though. You could see how the first AC/2 would be off cooldown by the time the third fired.

Edited by One Medic Army, 02 April 2013 - 12:56 AM.

[Training Instructor]

Sorry OP, but there are a lot of people who make terrible terrible decisions because they have absolutely zero situational awareness.

Just because I'm dead, doesn't mean you're a better player who doesn't need any advice or who can't benefit from me noticing the things that you aren't seeing. There could be a lot of reasons you're still alive, and the most common is that you hung back while other people engaged the enemy.

So pardon me if I dish out some advice while you're scoring kills on mechs that other people stripped for you.

[Yukichan]

Had a match a few days ago where the last guy alive on my team was a relatively untouched TBT-7M, last 2 enemies were a 4P with right torso gone, and orange center internals, and a centurion with yellow center internals and no right arm.

I calmly typed out to the TBT to stop panic shooting and spam overheating and to time his shots cause as long as he does this they have no chance. He took his time after that got 2 kills and hopefully learned something valuable from the experience.

[CECILOFS]

If its a close game, I will sometimes call out targets. Like "Atlas has a red CT" or "Right torso on the Cataphract".

I also tell people about min/max ranges, because I assume they are new players and just don't know.

I am always respectful though, which is the big difference.

[El Death Smurf]

One Medic Army, on 01 April 2013 - 11:59 PM, said:

You know what I love? When I actually provide some useful advice only to be told "shut up, you're dead so you suck".

I don't care if I'm dead and you're alive, you're still wasting 6tons of weaponry if you have 3 AC/2s in the same firegroup set on chain fire! Drop the third or put one on a different firegroup, there's no point having 3 .5sec cooldown weapons with one firing every .25sec.

Listen to others, you might occasionally learn something.

let me agree and disagree.

having3-5 ac2 on 2 wepon groups (1 that chain fires and one with all at once) is the best way to set them up, chain firing will let you cool off on hot maps whiel still firing. these are the least heat effective wepons in the game, and require good heat mangement, as well as ammo management. so that sort of dribble isn't helpfull while spectating.

dead pilots can have good advice, you dont have to follow it, but just beacuse they are dead and you aren't doesnt make you better than them. be patient. we dont know if you know the ranges and utility of your wepons.

i see a lot of stupid stuff in spectator mode. whether it is bad wepon usage, or builds, or target decisions. some of these dissagreements are factual, and others are opinionated.

if you want. ignore us. ignore the in game chat. but taking the time to type "shut up you're dead" is stupider than either what you're doing or what the ignoramos is telling you to do. congadufrikilations.

[Icepick]

Dan the Ice Man, on 01 April 2013 - 08:53 PM, said:

Now there is a thing i hate in this game, and its not the game itself its the people. People that think they know everything and HOW to play a game, but when they are dead.

Now i am not that great of a player, i can hold my own, and i make mistakes sometimes, but when i am the last one standing for our team. I DO NOT like when people tell me how my weapons work, or the range of them when i am trying to stay alive, and frankly i find it very distracting and annoying.

my biggest wish that happens soon is that we have an option to shut the chat off, because i am getting real sick and tired of the backseat drivers.

/endrant

Some nights, I simply cease to care what ANYONE in chat has to say. For those nights, I have a yellow Post-It note to cover the upper left corner of the monitor - My attitude (and sometimes, gameplay) immediately improves.

[Silentium]

I only had a problem with this once. A couple of children thought that I was terrible because I was "twisting too much." evidently, all of the best pilots let the opposing mechs shoot into their exposed CT. They then tried to troll or insult me <shrug>. Either way, it has been rare in my experience, most players are decent human beings mixed in with the occasional mutant or two.