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#1 Kivin

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 06:56 PM

I'm surprised no one has brought this up. How does everyone feel about PGI holding back the release of the Highlander (which is obviously modeled, animated, skinned, et al.)? Does this smell of an attempt to get more people to purchase the hero, since they'll be the only highlanders out there for a while?

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 06:58 PM

Fine. The new mechs are still coming out once a month. This gets them good money from people who really like the Heavy Metal or want early Highlanders. And the rest of us will get the Highlander in 2 weeks.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 06:59 PM

Here we go again!

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 07:01 PM

So what. Its a business, dont like it dont buy.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 07:02 PM

It's a FANTASTIC idea. Use your head, PGI needs to make money in order to function and produce a quality game. A great way to do that is to release MC only mechs a couple weeks prior to their c-bill variants. Anybody who wants the new shiny toy before hand can pay MC for it, others will wait until a two weeks or so later. It's a perfectly acceptable and good idea,

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 07:02 PM

it was brought up before the mech came out

#7 Gregory Owen

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 07:06 PM

I admit as much as i don't care for the hard-points i still want to buy it to try a highlander.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 07:08 PM

They're not holding back the release of the Highlander, they just released the Hero Highlander early. They weren't going to come out until the next patch anyway.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 07:09 PM

Guessing you never took any marketing courses?

This is pretty much just darn smart marketing. Yes, more people will probably buy the Heavy Metal to get their Highlander fix early. No one is requiring them to do so, though. They could do like me and simply wait 2 bloody weeks.

Cheers PGI! The more money they make on Heros and Cosmetics, the less new avenues of monetization they need to find.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 07:10 PM

My only stance on this is I want hero mechs to be available in some way for c-bills. GXP unlocks with absolutely ludicrous c-bill costs would be suitable, including cutting out unique skin/c-bill bonus. I could care less if they release finished hero mechs early.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 07:11 PM

I agree, it was an excellent move on their part. I was actually tempted to buy it despite the horrible pink color.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 07:12 PM

TEARS! I DONT GET MY FREE MECH FOR TWO WEEKS AND ALL THE RICH KINGS OF THE INTERNET GET THEM> OP PAY TO WIN CAPS LOCK

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 07:13 PM

View PostKivin, on 02 April 2013 - 06:56 PM, said:

Does this smell of an attempt to get more people to purchase the hero, since they'll be the only highlanders out there for a while?

yes, this is the only reason they would waste time implementing it this patch as opposed to holding it and releasing it with the highlanders next patch. Big deal, people with cash get a new shiney toy, and those of us without get a new shiney target

View PostMonky, on 02 April 2013 - 07:10 PM, said:

My only stance on this is I want hero mechs to be available in some way for c-bills. GXP unlocks with absolutely ludicrous c-bill costs would be suitable, including cutting out unique skin/c-bill bonus. I could care less if they release finished hero mechs early.

So only reason to purchase is the hardpoints? and it costs ludicrous amounts of everything to do so? you know, im ok with this, I don't think it will happen but im ok with the idea

Edited by HereticalPsycho, 02 April 2013 - 07:15 PM.


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 07:13 PM

View PostKivin, on 02 April 2013 - 06:56 PM, said:

I'm surprised no one has brought this up. How does everyone feel about PGI holding back the release of the Highlander (which is obviously modeled, animated, skinned, et al.)? Does this smell of an attempt to get more people to purchase the hero, since they'll be the only highlanders out there for a while?


I'd rather see this system used instead of pay-to-win consumables or WoT style gold ammo. It's clearly an attempt to get more players to buy the mech. I have no interest in it though, I've been playing War Thunder because unlike MWO I'm actually having fun with that game. I'll still stick around MWO and drop occasionally but I don't expect MWO to be my primary game again until some issues like matchmaker weight class matching are fixed for small group drops.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 07:13 PM

View PostKivin, on 02 April 2013 - 06:56 PM, said:

I'm surprised no one has brought this up. How does everyone feel about PGI holding back the release of the Highlander (which is obviously modeled, animated, skinned, et al.)? Does this smell of an attempt to get more people to purchase the hero, since they'll be the only highlanders out there for a while?


That's exactly what they're doing - release the hero variant first so people who want to try it out pay for it.

Is that a problem? Not at all.

Two weeks is hardly a long time to wait for the standard variants to be available. The new mech isn't "better" than any others, it's just different. Not being able to have it sure makes you want it pretty badly, eh? This may push some people into buying it to try it out ASAP - or buying it to have something most other people won't.

The short time between the releases makes this probably the least offensive thing they could do to try to tempt you out of a few dollars - let's not forget this is a regular hero mech and gets the same benefits as the rest of the hero mechs. No reason to complain. This is just standard & friendly free-to-play business model

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 07:17 PM

View PostZylo, on 02 April 2013 - 07:13 PM, said:


I'd rather see this system used instead of pay-to-win consumables or WoT style gold ammo. It's clearly an attempt to get more players to buy the mech. I have no interest in it though, I've been playing War Thunder because unlike MWO I'm actually having fun with that game. I'll still stick around MWO and drop occasionally but I don't expect MWO to be my primary game again until some issues like matchmaker weight class matching are fixed for small group drops.


well, at least you seem to take a mature approach. If one is not having fun, play something that is. Shame so many people on these forums only seem happy if they are QQing on every bloody forum about how horrible and unfun things are.

Me? I'm not having fun tonight, dunno if its the new patch, the blasted bandwidth split all to heck at this starbucks or i need new drivers..... hope to find out more in the morning....

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 07:27 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 02 April 2013 - 07:17 PM, said:


well, at least you seem to take a mature approach. If one is not having fun, play something that is. Shame so many people on these forums only seem happy if they are QQing on every bloody forum about how horrible and unfun things are.

Me? I'm not having fun tonight, dunno if its the new patch, the blasted bandwidth split all to heck at this starbucks or i need new drivers..... hope to find out more in the morning....


I dropped for a few but feel the same way - got my Muromets stuck in a match and didn't want to wait for it to free up. I'll let them sort it out before I play some more.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 07:29 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 02 April 2013 - 07:17 PM, said:


well, at least you seem to take a mature approach. If one is not having fun, play something that is. Shame so many people on these forums only seem happy if they are QQing on every bloody forum about how horrible and unfun things are.

Me? I'm not having fun tonight, dunno if its the new patch, the blasted bandwidth split all to heck at this starbucks or i need new drivers..... hope to find out more in the morning....


Well part of my approach is knowing that PGI isn't going to fix the issues overnight. I also lead a small corp so I can't exactly just quit the game and leave the rest of the group without a leader. I still drop at times but I admit I am trying to generate interest in War Thunder to keep the group active while few are wanting to log into MWO because of bugs that are preventing them from playing (seems to be the case for a few with this patch) or issues like the weight class matching in small group matches being totally broken.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 07:32 PM

I was annoyed at first but honestly who cares? The others are coming soon and I'm buying one then. I can wait.

Edited by EyeOne, 03 April 2013 - 09:27 AM.


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 07:40 PM

Hey, Dev's gotta eat. So long as the mechs aren't overpowered I don't see much of a downside in giving some gullible enthusiastic players 2 weeks early access.





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