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[El Bandito]

Because under your rule, it is an impossibility for the Annihilator to have its default Dual LB10X (or just regular AC10 or even UAC5) on each of its arms if it comes out.

Sincerely, a slightly perplexed player who also thinks Highlanders are undergunned thanks to stupid actuators taking up much needed critical space.

Edited by El Bandito, 02 April 2013 - 10:52 PM.

[verybad]

The Annhilator doesn't have Dual LBX10/AC-10 on it's arms. They're spread out across the arms and side torsos. The arms have two AC-10s, two Med Lasers, the Center twoso 2 medium lasers, side torso's two AC-10s,

[Hawkwings]

Crit-splitting. Which they have said they will not add.

But hey, they said the same thing about coolant flush, so maybe there is hope!

[JokerVictor]

Hawkwings, on 02 April 2013 - 10:51 PM, said:

Crit-splitting. Which they have said they will not add.

But hey, they said the same thing about coolant flush, so maybe there is hope!

No no... that would be a feature we want. So we'll never see that.

[Blackfire1]

I just want my engines to come with 10 heat sinks. Thats all. Really.

[Xyroc]

Annihilator with quad gauss

[80Bit]

Regarding your post title; are you PGI's dad?

[N0ni]

Beliall, on 02 April 2013 - 11:07 PM, said:

Annihilator with quad gauss

And that's why we can't have nice things.

[Khobai]

Annihilator wont even be in the game ever. So not sure this complaint is valid.

[Monky]

the weapons are in LT/RT and LA/RA, not all packed into the arms.

[darkfall13]

Khobai, on 02 April 2013 - 11:42 PM, said:

Annihilator wont even be in the game ever. So not sure this complaint is valid.

...but... but...

[Kobold]

Note that functionally speaking, a crit-split weapon on TT fired on the most restrictive arc. This meant that arm mounted AC-20s (or the second AC10 on the ANHs) fired as a torso mounted weapon. It isn't functionally different than just mounting the second one in the side torso.

[S3dition]

El Bandito, on 02 April 2013 - 10:46 PM, said:

Because under your rule, it is an impossibility for the Annihilator to have its default Dual LB10X (or just regular AC10 or even UAC5) on each of its arms if it comes out.

Sincerely, a slightly perplexed player who also thinks Highlanders are undergunned thanks to stupid actuators taking up much needed critical space.

That's not an issue of hard points though. I agree, hard point's will become a problem if certain mechs are introduced with far more weapons than current hard points allow. However, the issue you brought up is the placement of hard points. It would be fine if every mech had hard points in every location, but they don't. Firepower can be substantially crippled simply by excluding hard points from a single torso slot. Suddenly, an area that was capable of holding 10 slots worth of weapons/equipment is a glorified storage locker for ammo/heatsinks.

They just need a more robust assortment of hard points.

[Comguard]

@El Bandito

You fell victim to the bad drawing of this mech.

The two barrells are supposed to be an autocannon and a medium laser - yeah, FASA in the past didn't care much about proportions.

The other two autocannons are the two holes in the torso. Yeah, doesn't make much sense, but I didn't draw the picture.

The hardpoint-system can never make problems with stock-designs.

[LTGear]

oh pls not annihilator. there are other good looking mechs that deserve for a comeback like Avatar, Thor, Uzuel or Madcat, or Sunder etc there are greatly goodlooking designed mechs which would please me if you talk about giving hard points on them. cmon give those mech a thumbs up

[Soy]

El Bandito, on 02 April 2013 - 10:46 PM, said:

Because under your rule, it is an impossibility for the Annihilator to have its default Dual LB10X (or just regular AC10 or even UAC5) on each of its arms if it comes out.

[Der BruzZzler von Wiesndoof]

Avatar, Sunder, Uziel? MW4 Mercs- Fan, huh?
Wrong time era. The Annihilator deserves a comeback much more than the other IS omni wannabes from the civil war era.

[S3dition]

LTGear, on 03 April 2013 - 01:04 AM, said:

oh pls not annihilator. there are other good looking mechs that deserve for a comeback like Avatar, Thor, Uzuel or Madcat, or Sunder etc there are greatly goodlooking designed mechs which would please me if you talk about giving hard points on them. cmon give those mech a thumbs up

Definitely started with MW4, didn't you? It's Uziel, and it was created specifically for MW4. It has no real nostalgic value. Nor would they have any difficulty with the hard point system. Mostly because the Summoner and Timberwolf are omni-mechs (which haven't even been addressed yet) and both the Avatar and Uziel are 6 real time years away (and they have rather generic hard point configurations that are extremely easy to handle with the current hard point configuration).

Edited by S3dition, 03 April 2013 - 01:54 AM.

[Coughlin]

S3dition, on 03 April 2013 - 01:53 AM, said:

Definitely started with MW4, didn't you? It's Uziel, and it was created specifically for MW4. It has no real nostalgic value. Nor would they have any difficulty with the hard point system. Mostly because the Summoner and Timberwolf are omni-mechs (which haven't even been addressed yet) and both the Avatar and Uziel are 6 real time years away (and they have rather generic hard point configurations that are extremely easy to handle with the current hard point configuration).

But nostalgic value doesn't matter in a broader term, and if you think PGI cares about that you're off your rocker.
However the timeline does indeed dictate that we'll never most of those mechs, so the point is moot, as you said.

[S3dition]

SovietPanda, on 03 April 2013 - 02:02 AM, said:

But nostalgic value doesn't matter in a broader term, and if you think PGI cares about that you're off your rocker.
However the timeline does indeed dictate that we'll never most of those mechs, so the point is moot, as you said.

And your point would be? He said those mechs deserve a comeback. I pointed out why they didn't.

Nostalgia does matter because people pay a lot of money for it. Fewer people are nostalgic for an Uziel than those that are nostalgic for a warhammer or marauder. They're willing to pay hard cash for them.