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[ownka]

I've been playing this game since early closed beta, and I've had a lot of fun, but I realized the other day that it had been a few weeks since I last played. I decided to give it a shot and come back, and while I was patching I read the patch notes. Once I finished the patch notes, I hit the x on the top of the screen, and decided to come here for one last post. It isn't the end of the world, the game isn't full out pay to win, but it is just enough.

Having to face a temporarily premium only mech, while fighting with/against a consumable system which is simultaneously the lamest combat mechanic a mechwarrior title has ever included, and also a monetary drain that a non-premium account can no longer afford to sustain every match, on top of preexisting premium only variants. No, none of these things are overwhelmingly p2w, but when you take a step back, play other games for a few weeks, and come back to mechwarrior, it just leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

I gave consumables a chance, and once I had made a decision on its actual in game effect, I chose to take my break up until now. I came back, honestly wanting to enjoy the game, wanting to put the silly p2w drama behind me and just have fun blowing up mechs. But by the time the game finished patching, I'd already gotten sick of it.

PGI has gotten bolder and bolder about being P2W, or more desperate. In the end it doesn't matter. I will read patch notes on occasion, and big enough changes might bring me back, but for now I am done with this game. As it stands I will avoid IGP products in the future, no hard feelings but I just don't see eye to eye with them. They obviously have different goals than PGI did, and the promises that drew me to this game have been betrayed.

Thanks for all the fun matches, I did enjoy the game up until now. I hope you guys continue improving it, and keep growing, but I'm just not your target market as it appears.

Best of luck with MWO,

Ownka



-To clarify,

I realize this game isn't very P2W. But it is a little. There are plenty of games out there I love, that are not at all P2W. I'm not saying this is the worst game ever, I'm saying it has become bad enough that I no longer feel the urge to play it over other games. Regardless of how usless people thing the premium only items are, their existence cheapens the game as a whole. That and consumables have to be the most garbagey addition I've ever seen in a game I liked enough to play.

Edited by ownka, 05 April 2013 - 07:23 PM.

[Tennex]

i don't see a problem with Heavy Metal. it will generate revenue to support a game i enjoy playing.

sure i don't trust PGI not to stab me in the back with the money loyal fans are giving them.


they've tried more than several times to push P2W. Original consumable system. Original CW subscription.

and they will continue to do so.

Edited by Tennex, 05 April 2013 - 05:36 PM.

[Redshift2k5]

The consumables aren't a money drain because they're not worth using.

[Royalewithcheese]

IMO the "two weeks premium only" thing is great. Apparently it moves a lot of hero mechs, and it doesn't lead to permanent game imbalance in the way a cash-only consumable would.

[anonymous175]

o7

[Dirkdaring]

Redshift2k5, on 05 April 2013 - 05:35 PM, said:

The consumables aren't a money drain because they're not worth using.

^ what he said.

Nothing is P2W, thats for sure.

[Tennex]

Redshift2k5, on 05 April 2013 - 05:35 PM, said:

The consumables aren't a money drain because they're not worth using.

its just a ****** mechanic really. A vestigial organ

[One Medic Army]

I can see how someone might call releasing the hero first P2W, but let's take a step back for a moment.
Hero mechs are now and have always been a paid-only thing.
The only way to get a Dragon or Centurion that can fit an AC/20 is to pay for it.
The only way to get a Cataphract that can mount 3 UAC/5s (or LB10X) is to buy an Ilya.

Right now what we have is that the only way to get a 90ton mech, or an assault with jumpjets is to buy one. For two weeks this will be the case, and for the same two weeks nobody who bought one will be able to get Elite unlocks for it.

I do not consider this to be considerably different than previous.

Now on to the consumables. The MC versions are exactly the same as the upgraded CBill versions, and they all suck. It's really not worth quitting over.

[darkkterror]

I like how people still complain about P2W even though there's nothing in the game that is P2W. I think, for PGI, this is a case of "damned if you do, damned if you don't."

[Zerstorer Stallin]

More and more slide away, I'll be shocked if this game is even around in dec of this year. Way to drop the ball pgi.

[Commander Kobold]

Tennex, on 05 April 2013 - 05:39 PM, said:

its just a ****** mechanic really. A vestigial organ

like an apendix

[N0ni]

At OP see ya in a couple weeks.

[Team Leader]

Lol, maybe if you used the consumables you would realize how foolish your statement sounds.

[Adrian Steel]

Redshift2k5, on 05 April 2013 - 05:35 PM, said:

The consumables aren't a money drain because they're not worth using.

It's only a matter of time, given PGI's attitude and direction.

[Moromillas]

[One Medic Army]

I think you guys who think PGI doesn't listen to us could use some perspective.
PGI listens.
Blizzard, now they don't listen. Bunch of the Beta testers told them waaaaaaaaay back all the issues in D3 and they are only now fixing them after the game's driven off a good portion of the player base.
Red Alert 3 beta the testers told EA what the balance issues and problems were, and EA told them all of those were fixed in internal builds. Upon release nothing was fixed.

PGI is an exemplary model of paying attention to their players in comparison to most devs.

[ZeProme]

I really don't thin there is any P2W element in this game. Say if you compare the CN9-YLW with the CN9-A, the CN9-YLW sure does have 2 ballastic hard point and can fit an AC/20, but what it loses to gain are the missile hard points. CN9-A has 6 available hard points (1 ballastic, 2 energy, 3 missile) while the CN9-YLW has only 4 hard points (2 ballastic and 2 energy).

The CN9-YLW doesn't have as many hard points and even if it can equip the AC/20 gun, it is still very vurneble because its firepower is on its arm which is often aching to be blown up. The only advantage the hero mechs have over the normal mechs is their increased C-Bill making potential.

[Sir Trent Howell]

Nothing in this game is pay to win....if you think any of the MC items actually give you an advantage you're either terrible or clueless.

[Adrian Steel]

One Medic Army, on 05 April 2013 - 05:56 PM, said:

I think you guys who think PGI doesn't listen to us could use some perspective.
PGI listens.
Blizzard, now they don't listen. Bunch of the Beta testers told them waaaaaaaaay back all the issues in D3 and they are only now fixing them after the game's driven off a good portion of the player base.
Red Alert 3 beta the testers told EA what the balance issues and problems were, and EA told them all of those were fixed in internal builds. Upon release nothing was fixed.

PGI is an exemplary model of paying attention to their players in comparison to most devs.

Sorry, but PGI pays lip service in the guise of listening.

[El Bandito]

C-Bill coolant needs to be cheaper IMO, like 30000.

Edited by El Bandito, 05 April 2013 - 06:02 PM.