11 replies to this topic

[Theevenger]

I took my LRM boat out for a spin tonight for fun. I wasn't able to lock onto people that were 400-700 meters away, and Tag didn't help that. I had both BAP and Sensor Range module. Can anyone help me figure out what was wrong?

Thanks!

[Zervziel]

Electronic Counter Measures. LRM boats hate them.

[MonkeyCheese]

If you are inside an enemy ecm bubble your tag will not function at all.

[Alex Warden]

MonkeyCheese, on 06 April 2013 - 11:19 PM, said:

If you are inside an enemy ecm bubble your tag will not function at all.

this

[AnnoyingCat]

TAG! And you are it!

[Oni Ralas]

Which makes perfect sense...as your missiles would not be able to follow the IR beam if they were being jammed out by a radio fequency that also manages only to jam out enemy radio transmissions and not friendlies within within the radius. And there is in no way technology to prevent this in 3050.


Like I said - makes sense.

[Davers]

Max range on Tag is 750m. Beyond that it does nothing. If there is an enemy ECM mech nearby it will disrupt your use of Tag and LRMs.

[Gregory Owen]

Oni Ralas, on 07 April 2013 - 12:58 PM, said:

Which makes perfect sense...as your missiles would not be able to follow the IR beam if they were being jammed out by a radio fequency that also manages only to jam out enemy radio transmissions and not friendlies within within the radius. And there is in no way technology to prevent this in 3050.


Like I said - makes sense.

no, it does not. you can't block a laser with something used to block radio transmissions. 2 completely different things.

[Otto Cannon]

Gregory Owen, on 07 April 2013 - 02:08 PM, said:

no, it does not. you can't block a laser with something used to block radio transmissions. 2 completely different things.

Er, I think your sarcasm detector is being jammed...

[Mild Monkey]

Gregory Owen, on 07 April 2013 - 02:08 PM, said:

no, it does not. you can't block a laser with something used to block radio transmissions. 2 completely different things.

While you can't block visible light with ECM, you can prevent your internal targeting system from communicating with the launcher, thus preventing locks. A lock-on is still required for the LRMs to know the general flight direction and elevation angle, they don't just follow the TAG. If that was the case , you could just dumbfire your LRMs into the air and tell your scouts to TAG the targets and the missiles would just latch on the TAG signal.
Could also be magical fairy dust.

Edited by Mild Monkey, 07 April 2013 - 02:20 PM.

[Grayseven]

I see rage about this quite a bit, normally involving two enemy mechs with ECM. If you TAG one, but it is inside the bubble of a second one, your TAG will not defeat the ECM.

[Victor Morson]

Theevenger, on 06 April 2013 - 11:16 PM, said:

I took my LRM boat out for a spin tonight for fun. I wasn't able to lock onto people that were 400-700 meters away, and Tag didn't help that. I had both BAP and Sensor Range module. Can anyone help me figure out what was wrong?

Thanks!

TAG will let you break ECM, but it requires you hit the target for several seconds. Also, the TAG must have a clear LOS to the target, so if it's say mounted lower on your 'mech (Like the energy slots on a Catapult) it's entirely possible to have LOS/missile arc on a target, without actually TAG'ing it at all since it's hitting a rock.

Two things to keep in mind:

A: Missiles are worthless after the nerf, so you might put this off until they get buffed again

B: TAG isn't wire guiding. It helps break ECM but other than that, it's a simple "When it's active, missiles track better - when it's not, they don't, and it can change numerous times in a single flight." So you don't even really need to worry about delivering a TAG to a target until your missiles are halfway there if you don't want to, outside of the ECM thing, again.

Grayseven, on 07 April 2013 - 02:29 PM, said:

I see rage about this quite a bit, normally involving two enemy mechs with ECM. If you TAG one, but it is inside the bubble of a second one, your TAG will not defeat the ECM.

This is flat out inaccurate.

Edited by Victor Morson, 07 April 2013 - 02:34 PM.