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[Zappz]

How good are they I only have 2 atlas's so far and am curious about the elite and master, since I cant see what exactly they do till I unlock elite

Basically I'm in a dilemma, I have a D-DC and a RS the DC is a brawler, solely a brawler, the RS is long range laser... Im deciding if I should buy a K and make a setup similar to thsi guys since it looks interesting

http://mwomercs.com/...n-atlas-builds/

Or since Im also curious about the dual guass cata I'm half tempted to go for that, I have the CB to buy an atlas, so obviously I have it for the cata too lol

Think it would be wise to finish getting 3 or 4 atlas's then work my way into other mechs or aren't they bonus's really worth it at the elite lvl

[El Bandito]

Don't buy K. It is the worst of the four. Just get AS7-D. Make it a LRM support.

You don't need the extra AMS if you got an ECM nearby.

Edited by El Bandito, 04 January 2013 - 09:28 PM.

[dario03]

I like to go through and build up the 3 varients of a mech before moving on to another (though I do run my other owned mechs here and there). Once you get 3 basics finished you get 2x bonuses on the basics (so 7.5% becomes 15%(assuming it works right)). And the elite lets you walk 10% faster, converge weapons 15% faster, fire 5% faster and start up shut down faster (33% IIRC). Master gives you a extra module slot.

As for the Atlases I'm in a similar situation. Looking at the K vs the D it looks like the D is better for varity builds however if you're going to run a AC20 or Gauss and LRM20 then you won't miss those missing balistic and missle slots and you get a extra AMS slot. Of course you have to spend about 4,000,000 more to get it but if you were wanting a 300XL anyways you actually save 900,000. I'm actually leaning toward the K to do a build similar to the one you posted since I already have a D-DC that is usually running 3x missles and 1 or 2 balistic.

Edited by dario03, 04 January 2013 - 09:26 PM.

[Zappz]

eventually wont I need all 4 for the last tier of stuff

[Bashars]

Well here are 2 things I would look at....
1st-you like the atlas and still have not problem playing it for some time?
2nd- the 2 mechs you have now do they have XP built up on them?

I ask this because if you get the 3rd you are going to have to lvl the basics to unlock the elite. Once that is done if you dont have XP built on the other atlas your going to have to play them and buil that up. This is going to take some time. If your ok with that then I would get a D like stated above. If you are looking for a change then get the Cataphrat and play it. This game is about having fun not just grinding. I love my Cataphrat its fun to play and you will be making money while you play it.

Edit: No you need 3 of the same type (Atlas. cats, hunches ect ect...) to unlock basics. But to get the master slot you only need to unlock 3 elite lvls from anything in that class (asualts) not just the same type like basics req's.

Edited by Bashars, 04 January 2013 - 09:35 PM.

[dario03]

Zappz, on 04 January 2013 - 09:24 PM, said:

eventually wont I need all 4 for the last tier of stuff

I don't think so. I don't think you even need 3 (though you basically do because you need 3 to get to elite and I think you need elite before you can get master).

Basically to get to Elite it says you need
"Purchase all BASIC efficiencies for 3 variants of this chassis to unlock ELITE"
and for Master it says you need
"Purchase all ELITE efficiencies for 3 variants of this weight class to unlock MASTER"

Note that it says weight class to unlock Master. So I think if you get a Elite fully done on 2 Atlases and 1 Stalker then you could unlock it but to get to the Elite you need Basic on 3 varients of that chassis so 3 Atlases. Unless you can skip Elite and then maybe just get 3 Stalkers Elited but that would be the long way in your case.

[Bashars]

dario03, on 04 January 2013 - 09:37 PM, said:

I don't think so. I don't think you even need 3 (though you basically do because you need 3 to get to elite and I think you need elite before you can get master).

Basically to get to Elite it says you need
"Purchase all BASIC efficiencies for 3 variants of this chassis to unlock ELITE"
and for Master it says you need
"Purchase all ELITE efficiencies for 3 variants of this weight class to unlock MASTER"

Note that it says weight class to unlock Master. So I think if you get a Elite fully done on 2 Atlases and 1 Stalker then you could unlock it but to get to the Elite you need Basic on 3 varients of that chassis so 3 Atlases. Unless you can skip Elite and then maybe just get 3 Stalkers Elited but that would be the long way in your case.

A+ for being correct

[Johnny Reb]

The widely unknown mechanic (as far as I can tell) concerning elite to master is this. You need 3 of the same mech (i.e a d-dc, d, and rs) to unlock basic. However, once unlocked you only need 3 mechs of the same weight class thru all the elites (unlocked all elite skills) to master any mech in that weight class. (i.e. say you have elited an atlas d-dc, atlas d and aws-9m) If you went stalker and bought the 3 to get to elite (max basic), then you can sell the 2 stalkers and master the one stalker you still own. This is very helpful if say you want a mastered raven 3L and have 2 max elite other lights. You only need to grind the 2 crappy ravens to elite(all basic) to then be able to get the 3L to mastered.

[dario03]

But if you fully do Elite on 3 Commandos will that unlock Master on a Raven even if you haven't done basic or elite on the Raven yet? I always assumed no, but it doesn't really say that you can't.

[Johnny Reb]

dario03, on 04 January 2013 - 09:55 PM, said:

But if you fully do Elite on 3 Commandos will that unlock Master on a Raven even if you haven't done basic or elite on the Raven yet? I always assumed no, but it doesn't really say that you can't.

No, still need to unlock basic on the raven then you can sell the other 2 and still unlock master on the raven. Need a total of 3 unlocked elite in the same weight class to do it. Still need to buy the 3 of the same mech to unlock basic first, but dont need to elite all 3 to get to mastered.

Edited by Johnny Reb, 04 January 2013 - 10:10 PM.

[Bashars]

dario03, on 04 January 2013 - 09:55 PM, said:

But if you fully do Elite on 3 Commandos will that unlock Master on a Raven even if you haven't done basic or elite on the Raven yet? I always assumed no, but it doesn't really say that you can't.

No
Cat A , B and C unlocked all basics= now you can unlock elite on 3 = now you can unlock masters.
Dragon A, B and C unlock all basics= now you can unlock elite and master on one or all of them.
Cataphrat A, B and C unlock all basics= now you can unlock elite and master on one or all of them.

[Sebesto]

Zappz, on 04 January 2013 - 09:03 PM, said:

How good are they I only have 2 atlas's so far and am curious about the elite and master, since I cant see what exactly they do till I unlock elite

Getting 3 mechs of the same type is pretty important because once you unlock the basic for 3 types (Atlas DDC/K/RS for example) you get a 2x Bonus on Basic skills. Also Elite skills are kind of nice and worth the investment. Master gives you another module to put into your mech and isn't really worth it imo but I do it anyway because I want everything maxed

[dario03]

Johnny Reb, on 04 January 2013 - 10:08 PM, said:

No, still need to unlock basic on the raven then you can sell the other 2 and still unlock master on the raven. Need a total of 3 unlocked elite in the same weight class to do it. Still need to buy the 3 of the same mech to unlock basic first, but dont need to elite all 3 to get to mastered.

But you will need Elite fully done on the 1 Raven right?

Edited by dario03, 04 January 2013 - 10:21 PM.

[Johnny Reb]

dario03, on 04 January 2013 - 10:20 PM, said:

But you will need Elite fully done on the 1 Raven right?

Of coarse. No jump to mastered.