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#21 Xelchon

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 01:55 AM

Ah so thats the english version of it. KK, np dunno if I could make it this perfect without modeling it a bit myself, but I guess you wouldn't need smt. that precise since youll start from scratch, right?

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 02:16 AM

View PostXelchon, on 14 April 2013 - 01:55 AM, said:

Ah so thats the english version of it. KK, np dunno if I could make it this perfect without modeling it a bit myself, but I guess you wouldn't need smt. that precise since youll start from scratch, right?

Well, technically speaking, the first 2 drawings on your Vindicator picture are a good start for an ortho.

Just clean them up and remove the PPC arm from the side one and it should be enough for Sparks.

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 04:49 AM

View PostXelchon, on 14 April 2013 - 01:44 AM, said:

Oh, I thout I had edited that insulting as rather agressive, but nvm that no offense taken thx for the compliments. I seem to forget that people love batletech too much and are a bit 'conservative' about it^^ about that I share your enthusiasm. In any case I have a few more designs that I want to at least conceptualize before making another colour work, so I can get them out of my mind and into photoshop before I forget. (my mind is always a mess)

After them I would be happy to colour the Vindicator, people seem to like it very much :P







By orthographic you mean a bit more boxed version of it so the proportions are more deliberate? Would something close an izometric angle do in that case?

Love the art style. Laser Swords on a Centy aren't my thing (I'm one of the conservative ones), but the Art style is bold, and really has cool energy to it.....
The Vindi is pretty cool too. The end result might be to stylized for "MWO" style but as just plain cool art? Score.

The only one I can't feel so much is the WHM-6R. Like I said, I'm conservative.... and the Hammer has been my personal ride for 25 years. So I am biased as heck, lol. Mostly it's just that the CT/ H seem too incongruous compared to the rest of the design, and unfinished.....
But also, IMO< especially with the unseen, it's important to make new art, but to have it visually be easy to connect to the original, since the Unseen were what brought a lot of us into the game. If you look through the section, I've done a lot of the unseen myself, with "my interpretations" and boy howdy, the flamefests can get pretty bad........

Still, love your stuff. Would love to take your ideas for the Vindy and combine them with the proportions Alex came up with on his concept sketch, ... I think it would be pure and utter win....... In fact, I think I will play with that idea myself later today.

Anyhow, keep it up, love seeing great new art work on here seems like since Open Beta, traffic on here has tapered...... but more artists sharing and critiquing can only be better for all of us, IMO>

CHEERS!

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 09:56 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 14 April 2013 - 04:49 AM, said:

Love the art style. Laser Swords on a Centy aren't my thing (I'm one of the conservative ones), but the Art style is bold, and really has cool energy to it.....
The Vindi is pretty cool too. The end result might be to stylized for "MWO" style but as just plain cool art? Score.

The only one I can't feel so much is the WHM-6R. Like I said, I'm conservative.... and the Hammer has been my personal ride for 25 years. So I am biased as heck, lol. Mostly it's just that the CT/ H seem too incongruous compared to the rest of the design, and unfinished.....
But also, IMO< especially with the unseen, it's important to make new art, but to have it visually be easy to connect to the original, since the Unseen were what brought a lot of us into the game. If you look through the section, I've done a lot of the unseen myself, with "my interpretations" and boy howdy, the flamefests can get pretty bad........

Still, love your stuff. Would love to take your ideas for the Vindy and combine them with the proportions Alex came up with on his concept sketch, ... I think it would be pure and utter win....... In fact, I think I will play with that idea myself later today.

Anyhow, keep it up, love seeing great new art work on here seems like since Open Beta, traffic on here has tapered...... but more artists sharing and critiquing can only be better for all of us, IMO>

CHEERS!


I see what you mean. About Warhammer, in fact I actually drew what just imaged in my mind as I read the Warrior; trilogy from Battletech novels, so for me the big ct was not that "extravagant". Sometimes my imagination goes wild; and doesn't always on the right path XD
In any case; the only thing that saddens me is that I'm having rehabilitation exercises on my arms since the last month (from overuse ^^), and I can't devote myself to the sketching which I love. I am married with my tablet, and I have zillions of things to draw in my head, but I can't pour it out effectively for now, so sorry for the lack of detail on my work beforehand. If you've checked my deviant you'll see I'm actually a detail freak.
The next on my schedule is a Timber Wolf and I've got other real nice sketches I should wrap up, but after the Timber Wolf I will make the orthographic for Vindicator that Sparks Murphey wanted to turn into a 3D model, so you may see a real nice collab. from us; the guy knows his stuff. Stay tuned!

Edited by Xelchon, 15 April 2013 - 10:01 AM.


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 12:17 PM

Well I actually caught up with the timeline on the Battletech novels and finished the "Lethal Heritage". So when I was reading I was like; Okay this mech is "MADCAT" because it is recognized as both a Marauder and a Catapult when picked up by sensors. Basic stuff you'd know before reading the book. That's good and all but all the fan art I saw of this mech is based on more of CAT-like fashion rather than a MAD... So here I am thinking how it would look if it would match up more to the Marauder image, I had to draw this pair and compare. You decide, I'm just coming up with variety ^^

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Hope you like'em; deviant link for download:

http://thestardwelle...%253A1366661710

Edited by Xelchon, 22 April 2013 - 12:19 PM.


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 01:11 PM

View PostXelchon, on 15 April 2013 - 09:56 AM, said:


I see what you mean. About Warhammer, in fact I actually drew what just imaged in my mind as I read the Warrior; trilogy from Battletech novels, so for me the big ct was not that "extravagant". Sometimes my imagination goes wild; and doesn't always on the right path XD
In any case; the only thing that saddens me is that I'm having rehabilitation exercises on my arms since the last month (from overuse ^^), and I can't devote myself to the sketching which I love. I am married with my tablet, and I have zillions of things to draw in my head, but I can't pour it out effectively for now, so sorry for the lack of detail on my work beforehand. If you've checked my deviant you'll see I'm actually a detail freak.
The next on my schedule is a Timber Wolf and I've got other real nice sketches I should wrap up, but after the Timber Wolf I will make the orthographic for Vindicator that Sparks Murphey wanted to turn into a 3D model, so you may see a real nice collab. from us; the guy knows his stuff. Stay tuned!

Yeah, Sparks has a few irons in the fire, and I can't wait to see what comes to fruition. Hopefully we can have your Vinndicator duking it out with my Urbanmech soon.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 11:45 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 22 April 2013 - 01:11 PM, said:

Yeah, Sparks has a few irons in the fire, and I can't wait to see what comes to fruition. Hopefully we can have your Vinndicator duking it out with my Urbanmech soon.


It's been a hectic week at my job and I was at work almost 18 of 24. I only had time to fix this sketch I had from before in 15 mins and put it here; so I couldn't make it, but next up is my ortho Vindy...

Edited by Xelchon, 22 April 2013 - 11:48 PM.


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Posted 23 April 2013 - 09:45 AM

Those giant missile bay doors bother me.. perhaps if you gave it sectional doors of some kind?

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 10:29 AM

View PostMagik0012, on 23 April 2013 - 09:45 AM, said:

Those giant missile bay doors bother me.. perhaps if you gave it sectional doors of some kind?


Hmm it's actually not a bad idea, never thought of that.
I don't think they're not very different than a catapult's version though, only sideways. The reason I did them like that was somewhat because I observed in the matches that when the open bay doors are vertical, they give away the position of the mech when firing from cover or pre-engagement.
Wıth the octagon-shaped launcher I used I could even use the bay doors like a pizza(just throwing it out there, I know its crazy ^^) Anyway; Thanks for the idea!

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 10:35 AM

Really cooking with oil here on that idea for the MAD CAT being more MAD than CAT. Would really like to see the legs lengthened, the Marauder originally, and if I recall from the Reseen, still does have rather large legs that give the 'mech a nice height. Ideally, for me mind you- I respect your decision on this design - I would make a MAD heavy Mad Cat with an extending raptor-like CT obviously like the original Marauder, and long lower leg sections attached to shorter upper leg sections that would give her some intimidating height, if you follow my limited description. Realllly interested to see how this one comes out.





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