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[Ngamok]

Yes, I do agree that the Hero Mechs are over priced. The only reason i buy some of them is because:

1.) I love the chassis
2.) I'd like for PGI to continue to operate
3.) I still have fun in the game so I continue to support it.

Sure there are flaws but I hope that they are addressing them internally. They also need to communicate better. When I bought my Founders package, I decided to go with the $60 because I didn't see the extra value in the $120. I did however say that I would spend the other $60 on MC eventually and pretend I bought the Legendary package. So now I am $160 in. We are 8 months some odd days in since August (I bought my founders package on my b-day July 24th). That's $20 a month if it were a sub game. I don't forsee myself needing mech credits for some time so my monthly sub is starting to go down.

[Lycanstrom]

Yet another "mech X is too expensive" thread..... really?

If you don't want it, can't afford it, or think it's over-priced... just don't buy it. Save us all from your incessant whining.

[Demoned]

FrOdO, on 09 April 2013 - 12:34 PM, said:

According to some people in this thread, if you don't make past a certain amount you must be apart of that "PC generation".

I've got nothing against free players, just those that want everything for free

Mason Grimm, on 09 April 2013 - 12:32 PM, said:

Im the most broke arse cheap arse firefighter I know! For real!!!!!

(hangs head in shame)

(pats you on the back)
chin up son, the sun will shine one day for you

[Mason Grimm]

Ngamok, on 09 April 2013 - 12:37 PM, said:

Yes, I do agree that the Hero Mechs are over priced. The only reason i buy some of them is because:

1.) I love the chassis
2.) I'd like for PGI to continue to operate
3.) I still have fun in the game so I continue to support it.

Sure there are flaws but I hope that they are addressing them internally. They also need to communicate better. When I bought my Founders package, I decided to go with the $60 because I didn't see the extra value in the $120. I did however say that I would spend the other $60 on MC eventually and pretend I bought the Legendary package. So now I am $160 in. We are 8 months some odd days in since August (I bought my founders package on my b-day July 24th). That's $20 a month if it were a sub game. I don't forsee myself needing mech credits for some time so my monthly sub is starting to go down.

This... this is wise!!!

Lycanstrom, on 09 April 2013 - 12:38 PM, said:

Yet another "mech X is too expensive" thread..... really?

If you don't want it, can't afford it, or think it's over-priced... just don't buy it. Save us all from your incessant whining.

I wish I could say things like this... I mean... please do not incite people by calling them incessant whiners!!!

[FrOdO]

Lycanstrom, on 09 April 2013 - 12:38 PM, said:

Yet another "mech X is too expensive" thread..... really?

If you don't want it, can't afford it, or think it's over-priced... just don't buy it. Save us all from your incessant whining.

MWO Master Race ENGAGE! + THESAURUS = This Post

[J0anna]

Ghost Bear, on 09 April 2013 - 11:34 AM, said:

They should offer the Atlas a monocle and charge $70 for it

Or pants.....

[Mason Grimm]

Hahahah clever!!!

But seriously folks. We can discuss our points of view without resorting to elitism and name calling. Mkay?

[jeffsw6]

Rhent, on 09 April 2013 - 12:26 PM, said:

What you are forgetting is that the only benefit hero mechs offer are a Cbill bonus. With the removal of R&R, Cbill bonuses are meaningless. The load outs on Hero Mechs tend to be be **** poor in comparison to their compatriots. You are better off gameplay wise, not using a hero mech.

CB is certainly not useless. If you want more mechs, you can buy (non-Hero) mechs with that. You can purchase armaments for all your mechs. You can buy consumables. If you are going to farm CB for something, and you have a good Hero, you might as well use it. That bonus is really nice.

Nicholas Carlyle, on 09 April 2013 - 12:30 PM, said:

I regret my YLW.

I have bought both Dragons, X-5, Heavy Metal, and the Ilya. HM is currently my favorite. I also like both Dragons and play them regularly. I'm no good at the X-5 and Ilya, but I have not mastered them yet. I don't regret buying any of them. If I was real worried about whether or not I would regret a $20 or $30 purchase then I probably wouldn't get them. Just my $0.02.

I heard about MWO on the SimCity forums, while reading thread after thread of the game being broken, experiencing that myself (it was unplayable), and seeing absolutely no useful feedback from EA/Maxis. I spent $80 on the Deluxe SimCity. What a waste. I played it for one weekend, and by "played," I mean, I spent most of the weekend frustrated that I could not connect to the servers; and when they did work right, I just grew a city that had ridiculous traffic or fire/police/etc. problems.

I tried MWO, it does work well (for the most part), and so I spent money on it after I decided it was entertaining enough to buy some Heroes and Premium Time.

There are plenty of ways MWO can improve. If you are not happy with it, though, no one is forcing you to buy a Heavy Metal or anything else.

Edited by jeffsw6, 09 April 2013 - 12:49 PM.

[Kell Commander]

MrPenguin, on 09 April 2013 - 11:40 AM, said:

According to how many I see online, it appears a lot of people don't seem to agree with your sentiments.

A lot of people that have the Highlander bought with left over founders MC. That means PGI didn't actually make money off the Heavy metal, they made it off the Founder's Pack. If PGI looked at their sales of MC after the release of Heavy Metal and the amount spent on Heavy Metal itself, I believe (I don't have the ability to support this so just want everyone to know this is what i THINK and am not saying it is correct) PGI would actually be quite disappointed.

[armyof1]

Lycanstrom, on 09 April 2013 - 12:38 PM, said:

Yet another "mech X is too expensive" thread..... really?

If you don't want it, can't afford it, or think it's over-priced... just don't buy it. Save us all from your incessant whining.

I'm sorry someone broke into your house and forced you to read this thread at gunpoint. If OP didn't make this thread you wouldn't have to suffer this.

[Howdy Doody]

Howdy,

Part of me likes the higher prices just to keep the "Hero" mechs more unique. If Pinkzilla was $5 I'd feel like I was playing "Hello Kitty Mech Adventure" everytime I logged in.

Doody

Edited by Howdy Doody, 09 April 2013 - 12:59 PM.

[Ngamok]

Ocilfa, on 09 April 2013 - 12:21 PM, said:

Frankly, I only got one since I had a $30 rebate gift card. It was either pants or the highlander. I think I made the right choice...

A good pair of Levis cost around $50 or like $40 on sale .

[WarHippy]

Rhent, on 09 April 2013 - 11:53 AM, said:

The original poster is correct, the pricing for hero mechs makes them generally something no one will buy. The only reason to pay that kind of money for a mech would be a pay to win mech. Hero mechs tend not to be in that category, so why would anyone pay $30 for a mech that offers no advantage? They won't and Piranha looses sales. Their Average Revenue Per Paying Customer metric is probably off the charts with their pricing schemes, however their actual revenue take home is a fraction of what it could be if they priced out their items accordingly.

This is false, and it is pretty easy to see. "The price for hero mechs make them generally something nobody will buy." Yet I can't remember ever seeing a game where there wasn't at least one, and I have seen several that had 6-7 heros in them. Hero mechs sell very well. Don't get me wrong cheaper would be nice, but that is true of anything in life with a price tag attached.

[Eric darkstar Marr]

I am a stay at home dad. Which makes me the house *****. And still get the honey do lists on top of everything.

So I do not have a real income instead me and my wife have entertainment budgets.Mine slightly more then hers.

Point is the mechs are fine and the pricing is fine. I dropped one match last Thursday where all 16 of us were in Heavy Metals. They sold real well and will still sell well till the P and C drop.

However all I ever see is constant whining on here about prices or FotM builds or what a small group considers under whelming.

I choose to post in this thread because the Generation ME crowd is just getting worse and one day video games will be nothing but piles of steaming dog crap because people are not willing to support a company.

You ever think maybe if more people paid prices might come down a bit. Oh wait they have in a sense with weekend deals every weekend.

[Kaelus]

Kell Commander, on 09 April 2013 - 12:45 PM, said:

A lot of people that have the Highlander bought with left over founders MC. That means PGI didn't actually make money off the Heavy metal, they made it off the Founder's Pack. If PGI looked at their sales of MC after the release of Heavy Metal and the amount spent on Heavy Metal itself, I believe (I don't have the ability to support this so just want everyone to know this is what i THINK and am not saying it is correct) PGI would actually be quite disappointed.

There is another reason, people are content starved and want the next shiny. Since content delivery is glacial, they are desperate for new experiences. Also, it's the first real assault hero mech, there is that too. I love how people complain and attack others who want to share their opinion. Got to love the Internet.

Yes, the Pretty Baby doesn't count. Awesome's in MWO are just confused heavies.

Edited by Kaelus, 09 April 2013 - 12:55 PM.

[Nicholas Carlyle]

Kell Commander, on 09 April 2013 - 12:45 PM, said:

A lot of people that have the Highlander bought with left over founders MC. That means PGI didn't actually make money off the Heavy metal, they made it off the Founder's Pack. If PGI looked at their sales of MC after the release of Heavy Metal and the amount spent on Heavy Metal itself, I believe (I don't have the ability to support this so just want everyone to know this is what i THINK and am not saying it is correct) PGI would actually be quite disappointed.

I agree, everything PGI does screams desperation. I'd wager MC purchases are no where near what they want.

[Lycanstrom]

armyof1, on 09 April 2013 - 12:46 PM, said:

I'm sorry someone broke into your house and forced you to read this thread at gunpoint. If OP didn't make this thread you wouldn't have to suffer this.

Thanks for playing, but you lose.

I clicked the topic because I love my HM and thought maybe the OP was looking for input. Had I known that it was just one more thread about how over-priced Hero Mechs are, you can bet I would have skipped it. Unfortunately for me, and I suspect quite a few others, the actual thread name gave no indication that it was going to be about price. You *could* come to that conclusion by reading it, but you could come to other conclusions as well.

[FrOdO]

Ok, need a mod to lock this thread down. Have come to point where we realize that this like many other business related things in life will have its share of early adopters that will shell out whatever the asking price is because they need to have it. The other group will complain about the prices not being reasonable and how the "suits" are a bunch of money grubbing evil people with ulterior motives that perpetuate the depressing world we live in. Money will be made, prices will eventually fall, and Mechwarrior Online will still be played. I don't think we are changing the world here. Shouldn't have even posted the thread in the first place.

[armyof1]

Eric darkstar Marr, on 09 April 2013 - 12:52 PM, said:

You ever think maybe if more people paid prices might come down a bit. Oh wait they have in a sense with weekend deals every weekend.

Ehh.... last time I checked, if more people are willing to pay for a product for a certain (IMO inflated) price, there is no way in heck that price will ever drop, it might just go up instead. What.... how... in wha... eh I give up.

[Rhent]

WarHippy, on 09 April 2013 - 12:51 PM, said:

This is false, and it is pretty easy to see. "The price for hero mechs make them generally something nobody will buy." Yet I can't remember ever seeing a game where there wasn't at least one, and I have seen several that had 6-7 heros in them. Hero mechs sell very well. Don't get me wrong cheaper would be nice, but that is true of anything in life with a price tag attached.

What actual advantage do hero mechs give you?
1st) Custom paint job (for 1/20th the price you can buy a better camo pattern than a hero and look unique)
2nd) Cbill bonus (repair and rearm is out of the game, cbills are meaningless now)
3rd) Additional hard points (for most of the heros, short of the Ilya/X5, the hard points don't mean much)

There is no benefit to running hero mechs. If Piranha wants to make Heroes useful then:
1st) Small MC generation per match. The idea being that it would be impossible for a person to actually generate the MC Cost from the mech's use. However some MC would be generated, with Cbills being useless this at least is a way to generate something of use
2nd) Add in an extra module slot and always have that slot populated with the base (non-mc) version of a module.
3rd) Add in hard points that actually make the mech the best of the series

Simply put, hero mechs offer a unique camo pattern that everyone else in the game has. Hero mechs were good when R&R were in, but now they are absolutely horrible.