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[Moromillas]

grayson marik, on 12 April 2013 - 02:41 AM, said:

ahh Moro, they do post why they lock or move something. But still one could disagree, if a topic about something like "New Planetary Leage needs all Houses" belongs into fansite jumpship. And it bothers me that especially posts regarding content hitting remotely the direction of CW seem to be locked/moved even faster than others.

Lets bring it to the point:

The swiftness of moderation against player created content for MWO, suggests that PGI/IGP consider this content to be competing against MWO's upcomming CW.

Furthermore the announced implementation of lobbies that will explicitly NOT cater to the organized parts of MWO's community ( no group vs specific other group play), seem to make clear that PGI/IGP not only not supports organized team play but actively tries to prevent any kind of organized group play next to MWO's features.

If one takes into account how horribly simple it would be to at least provide some" group invites group for matchup" feature, that gives really something to discuss!

Because after all, PGI/IGP is limiting MWO's audience by doing so and is even discouraging their most dedicated and most paying branch of customers!

Well, it's a bit of a sticky issue. On the one hand you have the whole private forum thing, where the forum is owned by Piranha and they can say "no pony threads," and they have every right to do that. On the other hand, I don't think anyone wants it to end up like a Bioware forum, where the only valid threads are *** kissing threads.

I don't like it either, and I don't see why they would consider discussion about user content and competitions in conflict with the game, or with CW (if they really do). But it looks like it's just going to have to exist on other forums, them's the brakes it seems. Would have liked all sorts of MWO discussion to take place here though, even if it's supposedly bad.

[Esplodin]

The best part is all those threads were bumped for great justice BY A MOD when they were closed, making the MG "thread pollution" far worse then it ever was by players. Ironic actions may contain irony.

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 12 April 2013 - 01:49 AM, said:

Ah, like it is on the weekends

or like this:

[Helmer]

Esplodin, on 12 April 2013 - 04:52 AM, said:

The best part is all those threads were bumped for great justice BY A MOD when they were closed, making the MG "thread pollution" far worse then it ever was by players. Ironic actions may contain irony.

They were not "bumped" by a Mod for the sake of bumping, but to give explanation of why the threads were locked.
The alternative would be to Lock the threads with no explanation, which would be the greater of 2 evils.


Cheers.

[Esplodin]

Helmer, on 12 April 2013 - 05:09 AM, said:

They were not "bumped" by a Mod for the sake of bumping, but to give explanation of why the threads were locked.
The alternative would be to Lock the threads with no explanation, which would be the greater of 2 evils.
Cheers.

It still made the problem appear much larger then it actually was. I see no movement of "kill all the lights", "ECM", "LRM NERF" or other threads of the month, even though they at least as prevalent. If someone is abusing the forums by spamming threads, deal with the spammer not the content. Just my 2CB.

[jeffsw6]

Esplodin, on 12 April 2013 - 04:52 AM, said:

The best part is all those threads were bumped for great justice BY A MOD when they were closed, making the MG "thread pollution" far worse then it ever was by players. Ironic actions may contain irony.

Actually they were bumped by a player who was responding to PGI's statement that they look for trends, such as many threads about a topic, rather than individual suggestions or QQs. He was making the point that there have been thousands of posts, virtually all expressing an identical point of view, which date back many months.

[Esplodin]

jeffsw6, on 12 April 2013 - 05:32 AM, said:

Actually they were bumped by a player who was responding to PGI's statement that they look for trends, such as many threads about a topic, rather than individual suggestions or QQs. He was making the point that there have been thousands of posts, virtually all expressing an identical point of view, which date back many months.

Then it seems to me that a more reasonable action would be sanctions (or at good talking to) against that person, rather then arbitrarily close threads on a valid topic, consign it to the dusty corners of the website, as well as make the entire subject verboten to mention in General.

Lets see the same treatment for every other friggin topic that people are passionate about, such as the deluge of LRM threads. You can't just pick and choose, since it looks like the mods are using their powers to decide which topics have the ability to trend. Not saying that is the case, but it sure can look like it from the outside. I've been a mod in other venues and it is a crap job, with little thanks and less pay - so I'm at least a bit sympathetic. However, locking up info is one sure way to turn helpful people off from being engaged in making this a better product.

[MadPanda]

Helmer, on 12 April 2013 - 05:09 AM, said:

They were not "bumped" by a Mod for the sake of bumping, but to give explanation of why the threads were locked.
The alternative would be to Lock the threads with no explanation, which would be the greater of 2 evils.


Cheers.

Speaking of good moderating, why aren't you guys using redirects when moving threads? You know that little arrow next to the thread and the topic title is still left at the original forum and clicking it redirects you to where it was moved.

[3rdworld]

PGI doesn't want the general population to know that some players using their own time and money have done more for community warfare than they have.

Edited by 3rdworld, 12 April 2013 - 06:15 AM.

[jeffsw6]

Esplodin, on 12 April 2013 - 05:44 AM, said:

Then it seems to me that a more reasonable action would be sanctions (or at good talking to) against that person, rather then arbitrarily close threads on a valid topic, consign it to the dusty corners of the website, as well as make the entire subject verboten to mention in General.

Personally, I thought a more reasonable action would have been to acknowledge there is a clear trend, although it is not easy to detect through the noise of LRM, PPC, Gauss, Streak, 3L, blablablah posts where at least some players are on both sides of the discussion.

If there is one thing everyone can agree on, it is that the SDR-5K is totally worthless and that is because of no available armaments. See also: CDA-3C.

Edited by jeffsw6, 12 April 2013 - 06:15 AM.

[Helmer]

MadPanda, on 12 April 2013 - 06:01 AM, said:

Speaking of good moderating, why aren't you guys using redirects when moving threads? You know that little arrow next to the thread and the topic title is still left at the original forum and clicking it redirects you to where it was moved.

Personally, I do (or try to remember to do)

As for the dozen or so other Moderators? Who knows. Forgot/Don't know/Dealing with 150 reports, etc. But it's a good point, one I'll post in the Moderator forums.

Thanks!


Cheers.

Edited by Helmer, 12 April 2013 - 06:27 AM.