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[irony1999]

Once CW comes out - will faction warfare mean that only adjacent houses fight?
So FWL vs CC and LC
CC vs FWL and FS
etc

If so, that means FWL and Liao players will never see the Clans in a match...

[Kdogg788]

They could alter the clan invasion routes so that those other houses encounter them, but most likely we will be fighting on fronts against the same opponents (faction-wise) most of the time. If the battle occurs close to Terra, you could fight a faction theoretically opposite you on the map.

-k

[Durant Carlyle]

From the over-a-year-old info we have...

Faction players will face Faction players. They will earn Faction rewards for themselves.
Mercenary Unit players will face Mercenary Unit players. They will earn Mercenary rewards for their Mercenary Unit.
Lone Wolves can fill in open spots for either type. They will not earn Faction or Mercenary rewards.

[Kdogg788]

Information is too old to be reliable, besides, there aren't enough players active or merc units large enough and active enough for merc unit players to fight other mercs every game. They will have to contract for Houses and fight in House wars as well.

-k

[Thorn Hallis]

I hope so. The Clans never attacked or conquered capellean worlds, so I have zero interest in fighting them.

[Spheroid]

House units did fight the Clans together under the banner of the second Star League.

[irony1999]

Durant Carlyle, on 15 April 2013 - 07:06 AM, said:

From the over-a-year-old info we have...

Faction players will face Faction players. They will earn Faction rewards for themselves.
Mercenary Unit players will face Mercenary Unit players. They will earn Mercenary rewards for their Mercenary Unit.
Lone Wolves can fill in open spots for either type. They will not earn Faction or Mercenary rewards.

That still seems to be true - but also keep in mind that in the new CW they are going to have groups of systems called "fronts" which we will be battling over. So geography will make a difference in whom we fight (or don't fight) as well.

[Lightfoot]

Oh sure you will fight all the factions. Space is vast and empty. A Faction might want you to cross vast distances to capture a Clan Secret Weapons Facility in orbit around a dead sun. You get the picture.

[irony1999]

Lightfoot, on 15 April 2013 - 07:16 AM, said:

Oh sure you will fight all the factions. Space is vast and empty. A Faction might want you to cross vast distances to capture a Clan Secret Weapons Facility in orbit around a dead sun. You get the picture.

Maybe - but based off the idea of fighting over "fronts", I don't see that happening in matches once CW rolls out. My expectation is that the clans, for all their strangeness, will be yet another faction fighting over a "front".

And if thats the case... some factions that don't share a border with the clans, won't fight 'em. Unless the fronts can move? Not sure if they stated that or not.

[Tie Ma]

i think everybody will fight hthe clans.


but the factions of the inner sphere may not always fight eachtoerh.

[Syllogy]

There's plenty of fight to go around, even though Davion will be at the heart of the conflict. Here is a look at the map in it's current state:

[Vasces Diablo]

1) beat up on CC scum all day
2) get rich selling new equipment to the houses fighting the Clans.

It's the Marik way!

[Blair]

Well, depending on how mutable the fronts are, it wouldn't be out of the question for Davion to open up a front through, say, the Cappellan Confederation, and then steam into the Free World's League. And there's always going through the Terra region to get at whatever empire your House Leader feels like invading today.

When the Clans come, I could see them providing a 'staging area' for each Great House. Steiner could give a few planets to Davion, and Kurita could give space to Marik/Liao so they could coordinate operations. That would be my first guess. But even once the Clans are here, I would hope Intra-Inner Sphere combat would still be available. I won't quite be ready for peace with Kurita just yet.

[MaddMaxx]

I thought that Mercs would draw contracts issued by the Houses that in turn benefited both parties if enough successful contracts could be filled. When "the Front" is finally secured, the whole House membership gets a Bonus. It will require cooperation to make it happen.

Mercs could care less about the "who" is on the contract as long as payment for success was assured (paid up front in escrow so to speak)

[Zerberus]

*sniff*

*sniff*

I smell fear in the OP...

Feed Me More

[AlmightyAeng]

With absolutely no disrepect intended...does it matter? I'm rather hopeful that MW:O won't stick to lore, since CW is supposed to allow us to actually affect the map. I mean, it isn't as if they're sticking to canon as it is...why not give players the chance to re-write some 'history?'

[irony1999]

Zerberus, on 15 April 2013 - 10:22 AM, said:

*sniff*

*sniff*

I smell fear in the OP...

Feed Me More

To address this and Ghost Badger, it actually is a bit of fear actually... I fear I'll pick a faction, rank up and get a lot of cool abilities... and then have to start over in another faction when I find out feature X or Y I want to experience (like, fighting the Clans) is only for other factions.

Lets face it - whenever a new feature comes out the playerbase is forced to make a lot of uninformed decisions on not-fully documented or thought out processes - and when we find out that its something we hate we end up paying with our own time (Cbills) or Money (MC).

So hopefully Ghost Badger is right, and maybe the clans can sweep through Steiner space to give Marik forces a chance to fight them - but with the all-over-the-place track record of PGI in terms of canon and flexibility, who can tell? Hopefully this is something we can start discussing now, and maybe get PGI thinking about it before its too hard to fix.

[Zerberus]

irony1999, on 15 April 2013 - 10:38 AM, said:

To address this and Ghost Badger, it actually is a bit of fear actually... I fear I'll pick a faction, rank up and get a lot of cool abilities... and then have to start over in another faction when I find out feature X or Y I want to experience (like, fighting the Clans) is only for other factions.

Lets face it - whenever a new feature comes out the playerbase is forced to make a lot of uninformed decisions on not-fully documented or thought out processes - and when we find out that its something we hate we end up paying with our own time (Cbills) or Money (MC).

So hopefully Ghost Badger is right, and maybe the clans can sweep through Steiner space to give Marik forces a chance to fight them - but with the all-over-the-place track record of PGI in terms of canon and flexibility, who can tell? Hopefully this is something we can start discussing now, and maybe get PGI thinking about it before its too hard to fix.

Just to clarify, I`m a clanner in waiting, therefore fear of "cloned space fascists" was to be implied, not any sort of trolling or anything else *raises beer stein*

As far as getting the opportunity: We shoot whatever is in front of us, I think we should be able to create such an opportunity

Edited by Zerberus, 15 April 2013 - 10:50 AM.

[irony1999]

You'll only get the opportunity if PGI lets us have it. Maybe we should all start raising questions with them on the big picture questions, instead of little annoyances?

[Kdogg788]

Ghost Badger, on 15 April 2013 - 10:28 AM, said:

With absolutely no disrepect intended...does it matter? I'm rather hopeful that MW:O won't stick to lore, since CW is supposed to allow us to actually affect the map. I mean, it isn't as if they're sticking to canon as it is...why not give players the chance to re-write some 'history?'

I agree. Any time you insert yourself into a wargame, and assume control of a faction, you ARE rewriting history. When you launch into a WW2 game and get control of say Russia, you are making an alternative fictional history and things don't proceed exactly as they did in real life.

-k