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[Ens]

http://www.youtube.c...w9SN3oE#t=1m52s


QQ

just sayin

[Yokaiko]

there are basically no rolls, find them and kill, the team that stays together wins together.

[ThinkTank]

What's your point? I don't get it.

[Wolf Ender]

******** - you can pick any role you like...as long as it's a jumpsniper LOL

seriously though - in time the game will normalize. missiles are messed up right now but devs are going to fix that... right?

[Ens]

ThinkTank, on 19 April 2013 - 10:40 AM, said:

What's your point? I don't get it.

just being suspended from being an effective light/medium pilot....sucks
there is no logical reason to pilot anything that weighs under 70 tons in the current state of mwo

Edited by Ens, 19 April 2013 - 10:42 AM.

[Walter Soebchak]

This was only 13-1/2 months ago, cut them some slack.

[MajorLeeHung]

Wolf Ender, on 19 April 2013 - 10:41 AM, said:

missiles are messed up right now but devs are going to fix that... right?

This made me LoL so hard =D

[Sorho]

I have to agree here, I jumped on for the first time in ages, excited to try out my 4G now that Ballistic HSR is in effect.

But every game I got into was me and 7 Heavy/Assault mechs and I got shredded within seconds as soon as we engaged.

I play pretty casually, so I've always stuck to piloting Hunchies, now I just dont see the point, I might as well sell my 4SP/4G/4P and just buy a Highlander, It's really no fun being a whipping boy.

[Yokaiko]

Wolf Ender, on 19 April 2013 - 10:41 AM, said:

******** - you can pick any role you like...as long as it's a jumpsniper LOL

seriously though - in time the game will normalize. missiles are messed up right now but devs are going to fix that... right?

Yeah just like they were going to "fix" knockdowns. AKA don't hold your breath.

[DCLXVI]

lol its disappeared from the internet, there used to be role warfare modules like special charging attack, see friendly mechs systems for assault, death from above resistance for defense ect..


edit: this we are still getting, only we dont have to specialize in any skillset, anyone can use xp to buy these modules
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Scout Role Skills:

• • Radar Range Increase – Increases radar range by 2% up to 5 times
  
• • Ghost Signature – Increases length of time before a signal fades by 2% up to 3 times
  
• • Vision Mode 1 - Zoom Vision – Allows the pilot to zoom 7x
  
• • HUD Detail 1 – Enemy Damage Level – LOD detail in terms of damage
  
• • HUD Detail 2 – Enemy Component State – Overall component criticality
  
• • Null Signature System – Allows the pilot to appear shut down for 5 seconds
  
• • Multi-Targeting – Allows the pilot to target multiple enemies up to 4 at a time.
  
• • IDF Accuracy – Narrows the AOE of IDF fire.
  
• • Critical Shot Indicator – Shares with nearby friendly BattleMechs the critical components of an enemy BattleMech

Assault/Defense Skills:

• • Charging – A special attack that allows the pilot to drive their BattleMech into an enemy BattleMech without sustaining too much damage
  
• • Vision Mode 2 – Night Vision – Allows the player to see in dark areas/night
  
• • Vision Mode 3 – Thermal – Allows the pilot to see heat signatures through solid objects
  
• • Vision Mode 4 – Magnetometer – Allows the pilot to see metal through solid objects
  
• • DFA Damage Reduction – Reduces the amount of damage caused by performing a Death From Above attack
  
• • Power Up/Power Down Speed Increase – The power up and power down sequences are sped up by 20%
  
• • AMS Range Increase – Increases the effective range of AMS by 2% up to 5 times
  
• • Cognizance – Automatically lets the pilot know of any nearby friendly BattleMech taking fire
  
• • Critical Shot Receiver – Allows the pilot to receive the critical shot information from nearby scout Mechs

Commander Skills:

• • Order View – Allows the pilot to right click and request friendly BattleMechs to attack or defend areas/objectives on the BattleGrid
  
• • Command View – Provides a layer of information over the BattleGrid including objectives and any intelligence information passed back by scout Mechs on the front line
  
• • Call Air Strike – Calls in an air strike that does AOE damage in a straight line
  
• • Call Artillery – Calls in a land based artillery bombardment on to a target area
  
• • Call Naval Bombardment – Calls in Naval artillery bombardment that has a larger and more powerful result than regular artillery
  
• • Call UAV – Calls a UAV that passes overhead of the battlefield and relays ALL enemy positions to the command pilot
  
• • Call Predator Drone – Drops a heavy explosive device on a targeted area
  
• • Call Satellite Sweep – Full detail information is passed to the command pilot including enemy location/direction/speed
  
• • Danger Close – A short range radar detection system that lets the command pilot know of any nearby enemy BattleMechs

Edited by DCLXVI, 19 April 2013 - 11:07 AM.

[NinetyProof]

Isn't that video a year old?

Games evolve and change over time ... if your trying to make some point that the *vision* for a product isn't the *reality* we ended up with ... well, I got a couple of words for you:

Welcome to the Real World

Games, Software, Business, Marriage, etc, etc, etc ... what somebody *desire* or *imagines* is not necessarily what they get ... that's life .. deal with it.

[shabowie]

Yokaiko, on 19 April 2013 - 10:39 AM, said:

there are basically no rolls, find them and kill, the team that stays together wins together.

That's a shame. I like rolls with my turkey, potatoes, gravy and stuffing. I don't like sharing my food though, so that talk about a team makes me a little nervous.

Edited by shabowie, 19 April 2013 - 11:51 AM.

[Mechteric]

There'll always be a flavor of the week, best to get over that now. Has nothing to do with the arms race to the heaviest mech. Just a month ago we saw almost nothing but Jagermechs, how bout now? Just the ebb and flow of new shiny things.

PS: the other night we can couple of Jenners in a 2-man group and won most of the matches (2.0 W/L ratio). Fun times blowing up Highlanders there

Edited by CapperDeluxe, 19 April 2013 - 11:54 AM.

[LordBraxton]

NinetyProof, on 19 April 2013 - 11:46 AM, said:

Isn't that video a year old?

Games evolve and change over time ... if your trying to make some point that the *vision* for a product isn't the *reality* we ended up with ... well, I got a couple of words for you:

Welcome to the Real World

Games, Software, Business, Marriage, etc, etc, etc ... what somebody *desire* or *imagines* is not necessarily what they get ... that's life .. deal with it.

His point is that its devolving not evolving.

If your marriage becomes the same argument over and over and does not get resolved for 13 months, you file for divorce.

[tenderloving]

NinetyProof, on 19 April 2013 - 11:46 AM, said:

Isn't that video a year old?

Games evolve and change over time ... if your trying to make some point that the *vision* for a product isn't the *reality* we ended up with ... well, I got a couple of words for you:

Welcome to the Real World

Games, Software, Business, Marriage, etc, etc, etc ... what somebody *desire* or *imagines* is not necessarily what they get ... that's life .. deal with it.

When a company makes a ton of money by selling a vision, they have an obligation to stay reasonably close to that vision. What we're seeing now has strayed so far from what had amazing potential. Many players are angry because this is increasingly not the product that they were sold several months ago. Just look at that list and think how much more interesting gameplay would be if those roles existed.

[Kobold]

Players are killing role warfare.

If you don't have objectives, then there is no incentive to not take the heaviest, deadliest mech you can (absent tonnage/BV balancing, which we don't have). Except, people whine if someone runs off and captures a base in assault.

So yeah, blame the players.

[RedRevolution]

I have been playing a lot more recently now that Uni is out for the summer.. My poor hunchbacks can't take the 6-7 assaults per match. Meds are meant to work in groups and flank.. can't flank a mass of assaults.

I am patient though, and dream of a well-balanced match where my meds can excel

[tenderloving]

Kobold, on 19 April 2013 - 11:57 AM, said:

Players are killing role warfare.

If you don't have objectives, then there is no incentive to not take the heaviest, deadliest mech you can (absent tonnage/BV balancing, which we don't have). Except, people whine if someone runs off and captures a base in assault.

So yeah, blame the players.

I'm just going to keep repeating whenever I get the opportunity:

In a competitive environment players WILL NOT self-police. This is the job of developers.

[Helmer]

As stated by others, the game is still very much in development. Each balance change or tweak causes a change in the meta game. 1 month Lights are OP, next its fast small laser Hunchbacks, then fast assaults, then missile boats, etc etc

Currently I'm playing my normal Cat 1C LRM boat, and a Spider 5D because people say they are nerfed. More difficulty now, yes, but I'm enjoying the challenge.
I agree that the current Sniper-fest meta game is getting a bit old, but I find ways around it. Coring Highlanders from behind in a Spider is very satisfying. As well as capping because their 700+ ton team is too slow to stop it.



Cheers.

[Ranek Blackstone]

I love the jump snipers. They have good alpha, sure, but they all group up in the same spots, and you learn the covered routes to flank them. Then my superior DPS lets me rip them apart.

But yeah, the meta changes from patch to patch. Highlanders came out this week, so everyone is running them as jump snipers. If you know the maps well enough though you can use cover to get in their faces and take them out with superior DPS builds.