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[Ph30nix]

i know they "say" they are fixing the ELO and matchmaking system soon (blizzard is REALLY going to get pissy with you using their Trademarked word) but i just have a bad feeling the problem still isnt going to be fixed or at least other very obvious problems will remain.

The wierdest part is that these are problems that should have never existed with even the slightest bit of preplanning and foresight.

Currently matchmaker just seems to grab players throw them on a team and go.

Why doesnt it find the players and at MINIMUM not assign anyone to a team until it stops filling up the match.

right now the game will start a match with 6 players on one team and 8 on another, when it could have just made it 7v7. is that situation going to be fixed as well?

but as to the title says so dang frustrating dropping on a map especially a large conquest map when all you have are heavies/assaults and other team drops with 4 or so lights... had games where im tempted to say hey we will trade you an Atlas for that jenner....

[Cebi]

Ph30nix, on 14 April 2013 - 06:00 AM, said:

i know they "say" they are fixing the ELO and matchmaking system soon (blizzard is REALLY going to get pissy with you using their Trademarked word) but i just have a bad feeling the problem still isnt going to be fixed or at least other very obvious problems will remain.

The wierdest part is that these are problems that should have never existed with even the slightest bit of preplanning and foresight.

Currently matchmaker just seems to grab players throw them on a team and go.

Why doesnt it find the players and at MINIMUM not assign anyone to a team until it stops filling up the match.

right now the game will start a match with 6 players on one team and 8 on another, when it could have just made it 7v7. is that situation going to be fixed as well?

but as to the title says so dang frustrating dropping on a map especially a large conquest map when all you have are heavies/assaults and other team drops with 4 or so lights... had games where im tempted to say hey we will trade you an Atlas for that jenner....

That's what it does already... The reason you get imbalanced numbers is because of client sides issues; disconnects, crashes, alt-f4ing etc.

Weight imbalance is getting fixed next week.

[Fate 6]

Blizzard didn't trademark that. I think Valve did.

[Ph30nix]

Cebi, on 14 April 2013 - 06:03 AM, said:

That's what it does already... The reason you get imbalanced numbers is because of client sides issues; disconnects, crashes, alt-f4ing etc.

Weight imbalance is getting fixed next week.

but im not talking disconnects, im talking they just never even get into the match at all.

or is there a point where people can crash/disc and we just never even see that they were even attached to the game?

[StingerPryde]

How is a persons last name trademarked?

[Jacob Dieffenbach]

Arpad Elo is gonna get really pissy if people start trademarking his name and say he can't use it.

Alternate jokes included saying that Warhammer is a ripoff of World of Warcraft, or that Aliens is a ripoff of Starcraft.

Edited by Jacob Dieffenbach, 14 April 2013 - 06:16 AM.

[Sabazial]

Ph30nix, on 14 April 2013 - 06:04 AM, said:

but im not talking disconnects, im talking they just never even get into the match at all.

or is there a point where people can crash/disc and we just never even see that they were even attached to the game?

Some people ALT + F4 when they see a map loading that they don't like, they don't register in game and can start a new match immediately without having their mech locked down.

[Cebi]

Ph30nix, on 14 April 2013 - 06:04 AM, said:

but im not talking disconnects, im talking they just never even get into the match at all.

or is there a point where people can crash/disc and we just never even see that they were even attached to the game?

Yep, you can DC before getting registered on the score screen. This will also be the result if someone uses the map avoidance exploit.

[Adridos]

They're talking about "soon™," not the ELO part.

[Jacob Dieffenbach]

Adridos, on 14 April 2013 - 06:31 AM, said:

They're talking about "soon™," not the ELO part.

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i know they "say" they are fixing the ELO and matchmaking system soon (blizzard is REALLY going to get pissy with you using their Trademarked word)

It's pretty ambiguous.

Edited by Jacob Dieffenbach, 14 April 2013 - 06:33 AM.

[Roadbeer]

Or, some of the shadier players have removed the map file so it auto discos them.

Ph30nix, on 14 April 2013 - 06:00 AM, said:

i know they "say" they are fixing the ELO and matchmaking system soon (blizzard is REALLY going to get pissy with you using their Trademarked word)

Fate 6, on 14 April 2013 - 06:03 AM, said:

Blizzard didn't trademark that. I think Valve did.

I think the United States Chess Federation, The BCS, and MLB would like to have words with you.

[Damocles]

I thought Mektek was using Soon™ back when they were working on MP1 for MW4. Which was pre-HL2? (MP1 in 2002-3 HL2 in 2004)

[smokefield]

the worst game i had was 5 vs 7 with one disc on each side. was pretty painfull to see it.

[FupDup]

Maybe people wouldn't take all assaults and heavies if this game rewarded things other than damage, methinks?


...And if playing the whole match as Ghandi wouldn't cause your team to be gimped in effectiveness.

Edited by FupDup, 14 April 2013 - 07:15 AM.

[Wintersdark]

smokefield, on 14 April 2013 - 07:04 AM, said:

the worst game i had was 5 vs 7 with one disc on each side. was pretty painfull to see it.

4v2, and one of the two disconnected.



We 1V1'd him arena style on the big, flat open area south of Epsilon, it was actually a great match and he acquitted himself very well.

[ShadowbaneX]

6 v 3 with 3 disconnects so 5 v 1. Might have been an entire sync-drop and DC'ed or something. Personally, to me the biggest indicator that ELO is useless is the number of 8-0 wins that happen. If ELO worked even remotely this would be very, very rare.

[Cifrer]

I saw a 1 v 3 once. It was conquest.

[Wintersdark]

ShadowbaneX, on 14 April 2013 - 07:40 AM, said:

6 v 3 with 3 disconnects so 5 v 1. Might have been an entire sync-drop and DC'ed or something. Personally, to me the biggest indicator that ELO is useless is the number of 8-0 wins that happen. If ELO worked even remotely this would be very, very rare.

It certainly is rare for me. I can't remember the last 8-0 win I saw. 8-2 is reasonably common, though, but that's to be expected and can often be the result of a very close battle (depends on the condition of the surviving 6).