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[Willie Sauerland]

One Medic Army, on 15 April 2013 - 01:23 PM, said:

If you check the official feedback thread they've already clarified it's going to be by weight class rather than by weight total.

They are implementing

a weight tolerance.

While they will try

a 1 for 1 matching

it might not work

like intended.

As such,

the tolerance

will be loosened

a bit.

[Roadbeer]

One Medic Army, on 15 April 2013 - 01:23 PM, said:

If you check the official feedback thread they've already clarified it's going to be by weight class rather than by weight total.

Sweet, then I'm all for it, and we can completely disregard the fact that this thread exists

[Willie Sauerland]

Roadbeer, on 15 April 2013 - 01:24 PM, said:

Sweet, then I'm all for it, and we can completely disregard the fact that this thread exists

Already done.

Although,

if such a consideration

as ECM were made,

then it would also

have to take into account

LRMs,

AC/20s,

Gaus Rilfes,

PPCs,

Large Lasers,

etc.

In other words,

all of it is deadly...

[Roadbeer]

Following the MM QQing to it's logical conclusion. I like it.

Soon Skill and Teams will have to be factored in... wait

[TruePoindexter]

Koujo, on 15 April 2013 - 01:05 PM, said:

So you're saying the whole match making system totally ignores mech weight? Or just that they're two different systems. Either way it does seem to totally ignore weight quite often.

It tries to match weight with a margin of error but ELO is far and away what it looks at first. Here's a rough order of operations:

• ELO and weight matching combined
  
• Just ELO
  
• Forget it just get people

If it can't make a full team using just the first option it relaxes the weight comparison and works off ELO (keep in mind that ELO is by weight class so there is still some level of weight involved). Finally if it still can't match enough people it just starts grabbing people to prevent the wait time for a game to grow too long.

[Willie Sauerland]

Roadbeer, on 15 April 2013 - 01:32 PM, said:

Following the MM QQing to it's logical conclusion. I like it.

Soon Skill and Teams will have to be factored in... wait

We need a poll.

[LauLiao]

Roadbeer, on 15 April 2013 - 01:20 PM, said:

Because you're saying that the MM system shouldn't have put 4 ECM on one team, I'm saying that MM doesn't even look at it, so complaining about ECM is like complaining about the other team having more coolshot or arty/air than you did.

What's next? "We got all laser boats on caustic and they've got a bunch of gauss rifles! Matchmaker is broken!"?

[Roadbeer]

LauLiao, on 15 April 2013 - 01:52 PM, said:

What's next? "We got all laser boats on caustic and they've got a bunch of gauss rifles! Matchmaker is broken!"?

Don't think it won't happen.

[Willie Sauerland]

LauLiao, on 15 April 2013 - 01:52 PM, said:

What's next? "We got all laser boats on caustic and they've got a bunch of gauss rifles! Matchmaker is broken!"?

What?!

Crying and whining?!

On this forum?!

Are you crazy?!?!

[Koujo]

Roadbeer, on 15 April 2013 - 01:24 PM, said:

Sweet, then I'm all for it, and we can completely disregard the fact that this thread exists

Funny that you keep coming back to it. Can't find anything better to do?

[Roadbeer]

Koujo, on 15 April 2013 - 02:29 PM, said:

Funny that you keep coming back to it. Can't find anything better to do?

Meh, slow work day, plus it's pretty troll worthy.

[ElLocoMarko]

I was all about to demo my most outlandish match... LOOK AT THIS!
And then I did the math and saw that it was only an 8% weight difference between teams.

But this does show a possible problem which I hope goes away with weight class matching in MMaker phase 4. In my opinion, a single Atlas plus 3 lights does not equal a hunchback, trebuchet, raven and a Cataphract. I like what weight class matching claims to do - deliver the same numbers of light mechs to both teams. Now if they would just make the Dragon a medium mech...

[Tezcatli]

Roadbeer, on 15 April 2013 - 12:59 PM, said:

Awesome = 80 ton
Catapult = 65 ton
Dragon = 60 ton x 3
Described weight = 325 ton

Atlas = 100 ton x2
Awesome = 80 ton
Raven = 35 tonx2
Described weight = 350 ton

So, the problem? Seems pretty close to me.

Could throw the 325 team a commando. Then it'd be equal tonnage ;p

Edited by Tezcatli, 15 April 2013 - 03:06 PM.

[Willie Sauerland]

Tezcatli, on 15 April 2013 - 03:04 PM, said:

Could throw the 325 team a commando. Then it'd be equal tonnage ;p

It would be

if I were

driving it.