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[Vorkoz]

STAND BACK PEOPLE! Someone just opened a can of soda! Or maybe he fired a gauss rifle, who can tell?

Seriously though, the gauss rifle is supposed to fire a projectile at a hypervelocity, which should give it a distinct and not unimpressive sonic boom easily audible to longest distances, even if no actual explosives are used in accelerating the projectile. Since this largely concerns only an aesthetic part of the game, I was loathe to post this suggestion in actual balance subforum, but then again perhaps it would have that kind of an effect too.

I mean, besides giving the gauss firer obvious gratification of firing an obviously powerful weapon (what other kind would we be wanting to fire, us pilots of 'mechs weighing several tens of tons?) it would also make gauss "snipers" more obvious to the opposing team in general, not just the one who gets pinpointed pain into the cockpit, and thus lead to more teamwork in countersniper tactics because of increased awareness of enemy weapons. What do you think?

[Alekzander Smirnoff]

Honestly I have no idea what a 200lb slug of metal would sound like moving at hypersonic velocities, you wouldn't hear it at all on the recieving end the impact would negate the sound of the sonic boom. So only the owner of the rifle and nearby would hear it. Still, I agree its rather underwhelming; even MW4's sounds better to me.

[The Last Blade]

[Team Leader]

Alekzander Smirnoff, on 17 April 2013 - 06:58 PM, said:

Honestly I have no idea what a 200lb slug of metal would sound like moving at hypersonic velocities, you wouldn't hear it at all on the recieving end the impact would negate the sound of the sonic boom. So only the owner of the rifle and nearby would hear it. Still, I agree its rather underwhelming; even MW4's sounds better to me.

Probably something like "WOOSH!" or "ZOOM!" Followed by "kapow!" Or "clang!"

[Firelizard]

Team Leader, on 17 April 2013 - 07:15 PM, said:

Probably something like "WOOSH!" or "ZOOM!" Followed by "kapow!" Or "clang!"

Actually no.

I can think of two prominent sources of sound from a coil gun:

One would be the sonic crack made by the projectile as it leaves the barrel.
The other would be the sound make by the energizing, and then degaussing, of the coils that accellerated it. Perhaps a sharp buzz followed by a low hum for the degaussing?

[MrPenguin]

The Last Blade, on 17 April 2013 - 07:13 PM, said:

-> Rail gun videos

I'm not going to disagree, or agree with anything(I've had this argument before and once was enough). But a Gauss rifle is not a rail gun. Its a coil gun.

My nerdy soul cry's in pain every time I see someone post a rail gun when talking about a Gauss rifle...

[Tennex]

didnt the gauss used to have these rings. to show that the bullets were breaking the sound barrier. not necessarily realistic but it was nice

Edited by Tennex, 17 April 2013 - 07:19 PM.

[MrPenguin]

Firelizard, on 17 April 2013 - 07:18 PM, said:

Actually no.

I can think of two prominent sources of sound from a coil gun:

One would be the sonic crack made by the projectile as it leaves the barrel.
The other would be the sound make by the energizing, and then degaussing, of the coils that accellerated it. Perhaps a sharp buzz followed by a low hum for the degaussing?

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[80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie]

Agreed, it sounds like total garbage. I've talked to many people have said this as well long before I even considered how bad/underwhelming its sound effect is.

It really needs a complete change.

[Tennex]

The Last Blade, on 17 April 2013 - 07:13 PM, said:

a rail gun uses magnets in a line (rail as in rail road). a gauss coils the magnet around the projectile.

Edited by Tennex, 17 April 2013 - 07:24 PM.

[Team Leader]

Firelizard, on 17 April 2013 - 07:18 PM, said:

Actually no.

I can think of two prominent sources of sound from a coil gun:

One would be the sonic crack made by the projectile as it leaves the barrel.
The other would be the sound make by the energizing, and then degaussing, of the coils that accellerated it. Perhaps a sharp buzz followed by a low hum for the degaussing?

Ah sorry, please forgive me, I forgot everyone on this forum was an expert on everything, including the art of evaluation of electro-magnetically accelerated weapon acoustics. Rookie mistake.

[Alekzander Smirnoff]

The Last Blade, on 17 April 2013 - 07:13 PM, said:

I'd like to point out, rail and coil (gauss) guns are similar in effect but fundamentally different in how they operate. The coil gun's slug can literally float down the center of the barrel without touching the sides. There isn't a massive fireball of atomized sabot in the case of the navy's railgun projectile+discarding sabot, so the bang would be quite a bit less (I'd think). As you don't have a cloud of expanding gas exiting the barrel (atomized sabot).

Edited by Alekzander Smirnoff, 17 April 2013 - 07:24 PM.

[MrPenguin]

Alekzander Smirnoff, on 17 April 2013 - 07:22 PM, said:

I'd like to point out, rail and coil (gauss) guns are similar in effect but fundamentally different in how they operate. The coil gun's slug can literally float down the center of the barrel without touching the sides. There isn't a massive fireball of atomized sabot in the case of the navy's railgun projectile+discarding sabot, so the bang would be quite a bit less (I'd think).

Well, the "wooshing" of the object passing through the tube would indeed make a sound. It would just be different from the sound of the mechanical parts used in railguns which contain quite a bit of physical contact.

Edited by MrPenguin, 17 April 2013 - 07:25 PM.

[Vorkoz]

MrPenguin, on 17 April 2013 - 07:18 PM, said:

My nerdy soul cry's in pain every time I see someone post a rail gun when talking about a Gauss rifle...

Yes the electromagnets have a different layout, although I would expect the projectile sounds would be similar. There should be a definite and very loud bang upon impact and a sonic boom that is audible to those whom the projectile has passed during it's flight and possible charge-up and degaussing sounds audible at least for the firer.

[White Bear 84]

I was about to troll the OP for suggesting the Gauss.. ..quite possibly the most magnificant weapon in the game needed buffing!!

Then i read the rest of the title.. ..sneaky.

I agree, if AC5's get their cool DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA, why cant this awesome weapon sound just as cool!!

A really loud sonic crack to instill fear in our enemies!!

P.S anyone seen what it looks like as the projectile leaves the gun, there is a thread on here with a screenshot and it looks so cool!!

[Firelizard]

Team Leader, on 17 April 2013 - 07:21 PM, said:

Ah sorry, please forgive me, I forgot everyone on this forum was an expert on everything, including the art of evaluation of electro-magnetically accelerated weapon acoustics. Rookie mistake.

I'm not so much an expert. Doesnt take much research to know that the sound of a passing fast projectile, in the absence of the report from a propellant charge, is not much more than the crack of the supersonic bow shock.

And I have experience working with high power coils from magnetic penetrant inspection systems, and the degaussing that is done afterwards.

I just put the two together.

Edited by Firelizard, 17 April 2013 - 07:27 PM.

[White Bear 84]

Vorkoz, on 17 April 2013 - 07:25 PM, said:

Yes the electromagnets have a different layout, although I would expect the projectile sounds would be similar. There should be a definite and very loud bang upon impact and a sonic boom that is audible to those whom the projectile has passed during it's flight and possible charge-up and degaussing sounds audible at least for the firer.

This +99999

[Alekzander Smirnoff]

The fountain of sparks from the disintegrating gauss round on impact is one of my favorite effects in the game.

[Tennex]

heres a coilgun for reference.



they are not very powerful or loud (yet?)

Edited by Tennex, 17 April 2013 - 07:29 PM.

[Firelizard]

Alekzander Smirnoff, on 17 April 2013 - 07:28 PM, said:

The fountain of sparks from the disintegrating gauss round on impact is one of my favorite effects in the game.

Oh, I love the impact VISUAL effect. It is exactly what I would expect from a very angry chunk of super-sonic iron impacting a plate of armor.

We just need some sound effects to go with the fireworks!

Edited by Firelizard, 17 April 2013 - 07:32 PM.