10 replies to this topic

[Bhan Zor]

Since tuesdays patch, out of 10 matches I get roughly 5 times Tourmaline and 2-3 times Caustic - the rest is random spread between the remaining maps. This isnt funny anymore. High time to look into the map rotation, something is wrong there!

[Hammerfinn]

Tourmaline is slightly higher in rotation % than normal at the moment.

The other incongruities are simply vagaries of a random-number-generator. Until you approach an infinite number of games, the likelihood of truly equal distribution is very low.

ATM I have played about 500 games since they started keeping track of the mapstats. For me, the maps are each within about 20 games on each map, with Tourmaline and Frozen least (41,44), Alpine and Caustic the most (62,67). These differences are statistically insignificant.

Enjoy a truly random experience! Your map stats will even out as you play more.

[Bhan Zor]

No. You didnt read carefully enough. Since last patch! And that Tourmaline has a higher % to begin with, just like Alpine is old news. But what we're seeing since last patch, and I'm not the only one aching under this map rotation according to the reactions in game, isnt what we've seen before tuesdays patch.

[NinetyProof]

Sounds about right:


74 - Forest Colony
80 - Frozen City
95 - Caustic Valley
86 - River City
73 - Forest Colony Snow
87 - Frozen City Night
68 - River City Night
111 - Alpine Peaks
201 - Tourmaline Desert

[NinetyProof]

Bhan Zor, on 19 April 2013 - 02:05 PM, said:

No. You didnt read carefully enough. Since last patch!

No ... you didn't read ... random numbers are random.

random != equal distribution

random = equal chance of selection.

Yes, Tourmaline / Alpine have their weights skewed ... but I doubt they further skewed that with the patch regardless of your limited anecdotal *feelings* convey.

Edited by NinetyProof, 19 April 2013 - 02:13 PM.

[Ranek Blackstone]

The larger maps are more likely to pop so the devs can get more play test data on them for further optimization runs.

The smaller 8v8 maps have had a lot of testing by this point, and are about as good as they're going to get at this point.

[Bhan Zor]

I have the same numbers and they prove nothing right now. Come back in a month and post the difference. If its still the same, then my "anecdotal feelings" are wrong. Until then, its all we have. ~50% of my matches since april 16th ended up on Tourmaline - and that was never the case on any given day since they introduced that map.

[JimSuperBleeder]

I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!

I'd also like to note that I have not seen Frozen City Night in a long time, is it even still in the game?

Edited by JimSuperBleeder, 19 April 2013 - 02:34 PM.

[NinetyProof]

Bhan Zor, on 19 April 2013 - 02:19 PM, said:

I have the same numbers and they prove nothing right now. Come back in a month and post the difference. If its still the same, then my "anecdotal feelings" are wrong. Until then, its all we have. ~50% of my matches since april 16th ended up on Tourmaline - and that was never the case on any given day since they introduced that map.

No ... it's not "all we have" ... it might be all *you* have ... then you come out here and QQ about it ... then we tell you that your anecdotal feelings are not a proper sample.

But what's more important? we didn't say: Yea, seems that way to us as well.

Frankly, done a ton of 3-4 mans and 10+ 8 man drops and it seems pretty normal.

So yes ... Anecdotal evidence is Anecdotal.

JimSuperBleeder, on 19 April 2013 - 02:32 PM, said:

I'd also like to note that I have not seen Frozen City Night in a long time, is it even still in the game?

Yes ... pretty sure I played it the night before last. That's my favorite Frozen City variant ... that one I would like to see more often.

[Bhan Zor]

NinetyProof, on 19 April 2013 - 02:49 PM, said:

No ... it's not "all we have" ... it might be all *you* have ... then you come out here and QQ about it ... then we tell you that your anecdotal feelings are not a proper sample.

But what's more important? we didn't say: Yea, seems that way to us as well.

Frankly, done a ton of 3-4 mans and 10+ 8 man drops and it seems pretty normal.

So yes ... Anecdotal evidence is Anecdotal.



Yes ... pretty sure I played it the night before last. That's my favorite Frozen City variant ... that one I would like to see more often.

What we dont need is people like you, mounting their high horse, lecturing about undisputed and obvious statistical facts, yet lack any sample data to back up what you *think* is going on and in turn telling me, that my perception is irellevant. You *think* they did not skew the weighting of Tourmaline more than before but you have no evidence whatsoever. You have even less than my simple map count.

Edited by Bhan Zor, 19 April 2013 - 02:54 PM.

[Budor]

I keep getting dropped on alpine and tourmaline all the ****** time. I can handle tour but alpine is awfull esp with the current ppc/gauss boating. Its so boring gonna start to simply disco it soon.