70 replies to this topic

[Devil Fox]

Alright I got thinking... the UAC5 jam rate was completely nerfed due to the ability to 'macro' the unjam mechanic and ensure maximum up-time of the weapon under continuous fire, correct?

So what's going to happen now that multi-boat AC2 builds are able to set-up macros to get ridiculous rates of fire from their guns? And that BSR has now made them particularly potent with the latest patch?

Edited by Apostal, 19 April 2013 - 05:48 AM.

[One Medic Army]

...AC/2 boating is the furthest thing you can do from the current high-alpha meta. They also chew through ammo, spread damage, and run hotter than any other ammo consuming weapon.

I've seen exactly one in the past week. It died badly.

Edited by One Medic Army, 19 April 2013 - 05:51 AM.

[MERC Mournblade]

The OP was joking, obviously. Right OP?

[Viper69]

This has to be a joke. Boating AC2s currently has to be one of the worst decisions besides boating MGs. Sure they rock you and have a long range but you cannot deviate from your aim and your front is always aiming towards their front line. its a gimmick build mainly for trolling in games really.

Edited by Viper69, 19 April 2013 - 05:59 AM.

[OpCentar]

Apostal, on 19 April 2013 - 05:47 AM, said:

Alright I got thinking... the UAC5 jam rate was completely nerfed due to the ability to 'macro' the unjam mechanic and ensure maximum up-time of the weapon under continuous fire, correct?

Yes, although the official reason was that nobody was capable of doing the manual unjam. It was far too difficult.

Apostal, on 19 April 2013 - 05:47 AM, said:

So what's going to happen now that multi-boat AC2 builds are able to set-up macros to get ridiculous rates of fire from their guns? And that BSR has now made them particularly potent with the latest patch?

Hm? how do you get ridiculous rates of fire on a AC/2 with a macro? you already have the fastest firing ballistic weapon in the game and I fail to see how a macro would improve the RoF.

Yes they are very effective but also highly ammo dependent. I had a few 1000 damage games in my 4xAC/2 boat but on average I do 400-500 damage, mostly because I run out of ammo.

Heat is not a problem, just flush it or duck back to cover until you sink the excess heat.


No nerf or buff is needed for the AC/2.

[zztophat]

Apostal, on 19 April 2013 - 05:47 AM, said:

the UAC5 jam rate was completely nerfed due to the ability to 'macro' the unjam mechanic and ensure maximum up-time of the weapon under continuous fire, correct?

Incorrect. Some macros work, sometimes, but syncing issues caused by latency prevent any perfectly timed cannon spam.

[Voridan Atreides]

Apostal, on 19 April 2013 - 05:47 AM, said:

Alright I got thinking... the UAC5 jam rate was completely nerfed due to the ability to 'macro' the unjam mechanic and ensure maximum up-time of the weapon under continuous fire, correct?

So what's going to happen now that multi-boat AC2 builds are able to set-up macros to get ridiculous rates of fire from their guns? And that BSR has now made them particularly potent with the latest patch?

AC/2??? Needing a nerf??? Uhh...no.

[Yokaiko]

NERF ALL THINGS

http://www.google.co...Q9QEwAg&dur=218

[Mason Grimm]

He means that the sound they make is OP and should be nerfed cause it's entirely too cool.

dakka dakka dakka dakka!!!!!!!

[Voridan Atreides]

MERC Mournblade, on 19 April 2013 - 05:52 AM, said:

The OP was joking, obviously. Right OP?

It's GD. If you want jokes go to K-town.

[xZaOx]

LOL, what?

[Ragashar]

You guys do realise thay the AC2 has a ridiculous firing rate? You can get 16 points of damage from one of them in the 4 seconds it takes to fire a Gauss or AC20... And with the long range it is actually really good on paper... The fact is that you need bullets and lots of them and the damage is spread all over the Mech, but coming face to face with one AC2 boat its not fun.

I like my N5 Dragon running with 3 AC2's... It ain't the most efficient build but it sure is fun and dakka-dakka. And it tends to raise the heat level unlike other slug throwers in the game. So it is in no way OP, but the good thing is that it is not totally irrelevant.

[Kiiyor]

Voridan Atreides, on 19 April 2013 - 06:07 AM, said:

It's GD. If you want jokes go to K-town.

The birds there.... eat people.

[Tickdoff Tank]

OpCentar, on 19 April 2013 - 06:05 AM, said:

Hm? how do you get ridiculous rates of fire on a AC/2 with a macro? you already have the fastest firing ballistic weapon in the game and I fail to see how a macro would improve the RoF.

An AC fires 2 times a second. If you have 6 of them on your Jager then you can not really fire them as fast (in chainfire), the cooldown gets in the way. If you have all 6 in seperate groups and run a macro to fire them in sequence you can get a frightening ROF out of them. Of course they are still doing the same DPS, but the "Dakka factor" is considerably higher.

[Voridan Atreides]

Kiiyor, on 19 April 2013 - 06:18 AM, said:

The birds there.... eat people.

Actually, birds are a rare sight in k-town.

[Sephlock]

I wonder if anyone sells any toe keyboards that would be compatible with MWO... I can drum my toes pretty well, and triggering 4x autocannons manually works a lot more consistently than doing it via macro...

[Kiiyor]

Voridan Atreides, on 19 April 2013 - 06:19 AM, said:

Actually, birds are a rare sight in k-town.

Really?? They used to be an epidemic there. Maybe I can visit.

Unless this is a trap.

[Voridan Atreides]

Sephlock, on 19 April 2013 - 06:21 AM, said:

I wonder if anyone sells any toe keyboards that would be compatible with MWO... I can drum my toes pretty well, and triggering 4x autocannons manually works a lot more consistently than doing it via macro...

Genius!

[Darwins Dog]

OpCentar, on 19 April 2013 - 06:05 AM, said:

...snip...

Hm? how do you get ridiculous rates of fire on a AC/2 with a macro? you already have the fastest firing ballistic weapon in the game and I fail to see how a macro would improve the RoF.

Yes they are very effective but also highly ammo dependent. I had a few 1000 damage games in my 4xAC/2 boat but on average I do 400-500 damage, mostly because I run out of ammo.

Heat is not a problem, just flush it or duck back to cover until you sink the excess heat.


No nerf or buff is needed for the AC/2.

I think OP means the 6xAC2 Jagermechs. The macro lets them fire one every .8 seconds or something like that, so while each gun has the same fire rate, the ROF of the whole mech is very fast. BTW you can do the same thing by clicking really fast.

[Willie Sauerland]

Apostal, on 19 April 2013 - 05:47 AM, said:

Alright I got thinking... the UAC5 jam rate was completely nerfed due to the ability to 'macro' the unjam mechanic and ensure maximum up-time of the weapon under continuous fire, correct?

So what's going to happen now that multi-boat AC2 builds are able to set-up macros to get ridiculous rates of fire from their guns? And that BSR has now made them particularly potent with the latest patch?

For the entertainment factor:
Exactly what do you think should be nerfed on the AC/2?