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[LordBraxton]

We should be talking about the 4 PPC builds like they are pushing the heat envelope

6 should not even be viable

PPCs need a heat increase

[El Bandito]

LordBraxton, on 20 April 2013 - 05:49 PM, said:

PPCs need a heat increase

Amen. Revert the heat back.

[Taemien]

Wintersdark, on 20 April 2013 - 05:09 PM, said:

Up till the missile nerf, I was right with this. Now, though... While it's still best to combine low-heat/high mass ballistics with high-heat/low mass energy weapons, they all function effectively identically. Missiles are so bad now it's often better to just avoid them entirely, leave those hardpoints empty and get more ammo/heatsinks for the other weaponry.

Missiles can still be decent. I know I still use SRMs pretty well. But they're cheap low heat weapons so can't really ask for more then what they are. LRMs have too much risk for the reward they give atm. If you lessen the risk by running in a group, they are pretty effective, you just can't boat them. When I run with friends, I still get some good hits when they tie someone up in a fight with my LRM15s. But launching solo or with a small group its not as effective.

[aniviron]

Victor Morson, on 19 April 2013 - 10:56 PM, said:

Again, this is also dead on.

People aren't crying about the Large Laser only because not enough people have taken to using it yet. People copy what they see. If PPCs/Gauss got nerf'ed, it'd be next, I absolutely guarantee.

Every gaming community since the dawn of time seems to want to nerf every single thing into the ground.

Large laser was on the rise in a big way right before the HGH was released. Was seeing quite a lot of laser boats, and most heavies were taking lasers. Was even seeing llas poptarts, back when only the CTF-3D was doing it. I suspect you are correct.

[One Medic Army]

aniviron, on 20 April 2013 - 09:49 PM, said:

Large laser was on the rise in a big way right before the HGH was released. Was seeing quite a lot of laser boats, and most heavies were taking lasers. Was even seeing llas poptarts, back when only the CTF-3D was doing it. I suspect you are correct.

Large lasers also require being held on target, so they can't do concentrated damage on a twisting target.
They are super easy to do long range fire with though.

[IceCase88]

I still do laugh at them.

[bigdaddynash]

Remember when everyone laughed at the 6ppc stalker?

Remember when everyone including the devs were adamant that coolant would not appear in this game thus ruining the point of heat management?

4 ppcs Stalkers can throw 40 dmg alphas at great range a dozen times with a decent coolshot... just look at the tournement leader board winner.

He runs one of those.

El Bandito, on 20 April 2013 - 06:28 PM, said:

Amen. Revert the heat back.

Get rid of coolant more like

Edited by bigdaddynash, 20 April 2013 - 11:23 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

still laughing, cored out another half dozen or so over the weekend. Seems like only 1 could shoot straight.....

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 21 April 2013 - 04:47 AM.

[DCLXVI]

pffff put an ac/2, ac/5 and erppc on an atlas and you'll be shooting in one side and out the other in less then 15 seconds

[RedDragon]

DCLXVI, on 21 April 2013 - 04:43 AM, said:

pffff put an ac/2, ac/5 and erppc on an atlas and you'll be shooting in one side and out the other in less then 15 seconds

Lol. ER-PPC has a cooldown of 3 seconds. So a Stalker can put 5 alphas through you in that time. He will shut down before that, but 2 alphas will suffice to core you anyway.

[DCLXVI]

RedDragon, on 21 April 2013 - 05:33 AM, said:

Lol. ER-PPC has a cooldown of 3 seconds. So a Stalker can put 5 alphas through you in that time. He will shut down before that, but 2 alphas will suffice to core you anyway.

i spend most of these encounters off their port side tickling them wondering how long it will take them to power up and try to find me so they can miss XD

[Rippthrough]

RedDragon, on 21 April 2013 - 05:33 AM, said:

Lol. ER-PPC has a cooldown of 3 seconds. So a Stalker can put 5 alphas through you in that time. He will shut down before that, but 2 alphas will suffice to core you anyway.

When he's powered down, make sure you're to the side and wipe a torso out. Now he's a 3 ppc stalker with the same heat issues.

[G money]

I alternate between 6ppc and 6 large pulse, both are 7 ton weight i mix and match those sometimes

[Vassago Rain]

LordBraxton, on 20 April 2013 - 05:49 PM, said:

We should be talking about the 4 PPC builds like they are pushing the heat envelope

6 should not even be viable

PPCs need a heat increase

No, they don't. We need more viable guns. Everything was fine until they screwed over missiles.

[Vassago Rain]

SHOT THROUGH THE CORE!
AND YOU'RE TO BLAME!
THIS BRAWLING ATLAS DDC!
HAS NO RANGED GAME!

[MAXrobo]

I built my 6 PPC stalker when I first heard of it back when it was considered bad because I thought it was a hilarious idea. not because I wanted to play a good mech. I still pull it out on occasion now, not because "wow this is now a good mech I should go try to cheese the game", but for the same reason I built it in the first place, it is hilarious and fun to play.

However I take it out less now because I simply get yelled at every time someone see a build that was perfectly acceptable 2 weeks ago.

Maybe I should switch it to 6 ERPPCs and see if people still complain...

[Zerberus]

Vassago Rain, on 20 April 2013 - 01:44 PM, said:

The guns aren't the same today as they were back when we made joke builds.

ROFl, funniest thing I`ve seen all week

[Anudiz]

Erasus Magnus, on 20 April 2013 - 02:51 PM, said:

until you face that one dude that CAN shoot you 150kph zig zagging and jump turning jenner TWICE in the center torso, killing you and he just continues to do the same thing with the rest of the team, while evryone just sits before their screen in awe.
happend three times. and everytime ist was the same person. I´m talking to you there anudiz!
this guy is a beast. mad props to him.
and this was before ballistic state rewind.

Thanks mate!

Lights are my favorite meal, especially when playing my PPC Stalker. Its because theyre are so rewarding to hit.
Its challenging, but the result is marvelous. Unlike all those fat Assault guys that just suck it in.

Happy hunting

[TheSteelRhino]

As a medium pilot i must say 6ppc stalkers give me great joy. They can't shoot much without overheating. They are slow and they have a minimum range

[Green Mamba]

I usually just run 3 ERPPCs on my stalker with max DHS