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[Hedonism Robot]

To balance the current game I would see LRM flight speed increased and PPC projectile speed decreased. The original buff to PPC projectile speed was in a game that did not have HSR, so it was really difficult to land shots. Now with HSR this buff is no longer necessary. Slower projectiles would make it more easy to torso twist and block making it much more easy to deal with jump snipers.

Right now LRMs are near worthless, you get a warning that they are coming and if you are a skilled pilot with the shut down perk you can juke the missiles every time. Basically you just shut down/ power up and walk forward 5 m and watch them all kiss the dirt.

[Mystere]

Nicholas Carlyle, on 20 April 2013 - 08:36 AM, said:

That was a dumb post (not yours, the guy you quoted). The only hard counter to ECM is ECM. End of story.

You can counter PPC's. It's not even just PPC's that are the problem.

It's the lack of dynamic maps. Crappy game modes. Jump Jets not causing any sort of shake. The missile nerf. And a hard point customization system that allows you to put the biggest weapons anywhere you want.

I actually blame the players more that the game itself for the current state of things. I notice a lot of "monkey see, monkey do" copycats in the guise of "I need to do so to be competitive". It's not really a new phenomenon in any competitive environment, real or pretend (e.g. the use of steriods and other "performance enhancing drugs" in sports -- "Everybody does it, so why shouldn't I?").

[Anton Shiningstar]

Nainkonami, on 20 April 2013 - 02:10 AM, said:

This is how matches end for every assault that is no PPC build.



PGI, i despreatly begging you to take some action on this PPC.

Mechwarrior WAS a grat Taktik game, now its a stupid 3d action shooter. Five of my mates, who played since closed beta stopped already.

You are ruining the game, noone plays Rokets any more, only Gaus and some Large Laser Boats survived the PPC buffs. Increadsed projectile speed, decreased heat....whats next? less in tonnage maybe ?

I really hope you implement some heat demage to a mech in overheat. And you increase the PPC heat again. There is a good reason WHY it is so high in battletech universe!

For the record My Atlas-RS has no PPCs. And I did quite well yesterday. Not as good as I did last week but with a Assault tournie going on I expect to see some great pilots stomping the yard.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Poor Atlas D-DC pilots can't just wade through open ground anymore?
Shame, we lived with it long enough.

[M4NTiC0R3X]

Ha, your team of PPCs allowed you to deal a whole 200 damage!? They must be pro.

[Mokou]

Bottom torso critical damage ITT.

[Mazzyplz]

Kumakichi, on 20 April 2013 - 06:54 AM, said:

Shades of Mechwarrior 4. Heat management seems almost missing from the game now and energy boating is rampant. Watching assaults alpha'ing with multiple ppc's and large lasers over and over its easy to see that heat is really out of balance.

energy boating should be viable, otherwise you'd be putting the AWS and the novacat chassis in the trashcan (before the nova cat even gets in the game)
just buff the missiles again to acceptable levels

[Phingers]

ok its not poptarting ...thats annoyings its the PPC thats become unbalanced in conjunction with it....if it wasnt poptarting it would be 6 stalker ERPCCS you would run around a corner and blow up instantly.

Try to counter a poptart group and you run nehind or engage close your eating 9 ER pcc to your face.

As one group that wiped us when I complained about all the PPC they said.."oh Large lasers are better..." um No they are not....Lasers damage over time...and if you dont hold point its spreads over lots of parts.....PCC is single point...immediate hit no damage over time....with the buffs....its a no brainer.

Lock out the max/min in this game.....module limits please

[Ialti]

Nainkonami, on 20 April 2013 - 02:10 AM, said:

This is how matches end for every assault that is no PPC build.



PGI, i despreatly begging you to take some action on this PPC.

Mechwarrior WAS a grat Taktik game, now its a stupid 3d action shooter. Five of my mates, who played since closed beta stopped already.

You are ruining the game, noone plays Rokets any more, only Gaus and some Large Laser Boats survived the PPC buffs. Increadsed projectile speed, decreased heat....whats next? less in tonnage maybe ?

I really hope you implement some heat demage to a mech in overheat. And you increase the PPC heat again. There is a good reason WHY it is so high in battletech universe!

...But the things that killed you were SRM's. Says so in your screen post.

[Wrayeth]

To be honest, I think PPCs on jumpers are more than a bit broken right now. In fact, standard PPCs may be a bit broken in general (ER PPCs are fine due to their heat).

To fix it, I'd increase standard PPC heat slightly. Additionally, I would introduce turbulence or something similar for jumping mechs. Not much, but enough that the shaking throws off long range shots (while still leaving short range shots while jumping viable).

[B E E L Z E B U B]

STOP NERFING STUFF!!!

i say instead of nerfing the PPCs just buff up some other weapons. im tired of having things nerfed!!!!

ACs need BUFFFFFFING so they might start taking the place of PPCs.

[F lan Ker]

S!

Well, sure a lot more poptarting and PPC/Gauss fest going on. Bored of it? Try arranged 8-mans that use only pre-selected Mechs! We did last night with TRIAL Mechs and oh boy was it fun! 16 Centurion A's smacking it out or 16 Awesome 8Q's. I can tell those matches were more fun than the cookie cutter FOTM matches. Try it and have fun for a change OTherwise..well..not much one can do. PGI does or not, do things.

[Elistaire Drummond]

Playing at the moment is not fun. I don´t want to play MW-X-MWO. So I stop paying for that stuff.

[Varnas]

Ialti, on 21 April 2013 - 12:44 AM, said:

...But the things that killed you were SRM's. Says so in your screen post.

It says that HIS SRMS WERE DESTROYED, not that he was destroyed by SRMs you brainless ... GAH

Edited by Varnas, 21 April 2013 - 02:24 AM.

[buttmonkey]

i think you will find that things are going according to plan for pgi. us old school are players are being pushed away in favor of hormonal teenagers who cant concentrate on anything for more than 2 minutes without feeling the need to mas-tur-bate

thats why now all you have is poptarts and boats because why wait and use tactics properly when you can sit all the way across the map and just jumpup and down like a kid with add and ants in his pants.

Edited by buttmonkey, 21 April 2013 - 02:38 AM.

[Ezazel]

PGI, i despreatly begging you to take some action on this QQ.

Mechwarrior forum WAS a grat Taktik forum, now its a stupid qq action place. Five of my mates, who were reading and writing since closed beta stopped already.

You are ruining the forums, noone writes about Rokets any more, only nerf and doom threads survived the QQ.

[Kurayami]

PPC are good. now they just need to fix all other weapons and arcade aiming.

[Zerberus]

Welcome to Mechwhiner online, the Forum Component of MWO.

Please enjoy your stay and start at least one redundant thread screaming in agony for something to be nerfed.

[jakucha]

No where near as bad as when missiles were bugged to do a lot of damage. Things will balance out when they fix missiles and up the damage a bit.

[Chief 117]

Remember the days (not too long ago) when everybody was crying that PPCs sucked ?