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[Lumpypants]

Why the anger over the game constantly changing? It keeps it fresh for me. Call it mini-challenges. Each new change requires me to adjust my game. That's good. I learned to pilot a light to counter the lurmpocalypse. It helps me now when dealing with poptarts. I learned to be patient with ballistics. It made me a much more effective shooter when rewind hit. I learned to drink heavily. That helped me with the bugs. Well, I learned drinking before MWO, but it still helps.

Imagine a game where we get new maps, mechs, and game modes. Sounds like paradise. But if the meta never changes, it will be one or two mechs determined as "the best" and we won't have such interesting flavors as splatcats, jagerbooms, LRM 80 stalkers, PPC stalkers, poptarts, untouchable streak-ECM ravens, etc.

[Echo6]

That's kinda funny; I was thinking a lot of the anger was over the failure to change broken mechanics and abusive game play (looking at you pop-tards!).

[Lorcan Lladd]

Ah - 'fun' is when the game changes every week or so as subtleties and counters-to-counters are constantly discovered, even when the developers did not intend so - MWO is when the best builds to play 'focus fire on Bravo' change, which happens every third month or so, rendering older builds useless for the most part.

[HighlandCoo]

What changes? The only significant changes have been HSR and the missile damage bug.

Thats not a meta change. Thats fixing what should never have been broke, then breaking something that was already working.

[Sable Dove]

Uh, the problem is that the game doesn't change.
It is changed. PGI patches the game and creates a new best build/tactic for the month. Then, the next balance patch puts a new best build/tactic in place.

If the game actually had a meta, PGI wouldn't have to make balance changes, except in circumstances where a certain weapon is underpowered and needs a boost to get into the meta at all. There would not be a 'best' build/tactic/weapon/whatever.

[Haji1096]

Isn't the answer just to leave everything OP ?

OP LRMS, unhittable ECM streak Ravens, and insane PPC boats all in the game at the same time.

So matches would only last about 4 minutes. But at least no one would complain.

[Haniwa]

[Kay Oss]

I feel as if I have adapted to the new meta fairly well now and don't get upset by it anymore which is good, but I hope they can soon make lrms a little more viable and also bring close range brawling back into the meta.

This isn't exactly just about the weapons themselves though. New, large maps have also played a BIG part in determining the current meta. If you take a mostly short range brawler and happen to land on Alpine Peaks (which seems to happen a lot!), you are going to be severely weakened, and since long range weaps such as PPC/Large Lasers/Gauss builds can do nearly as much damage as brawling weapons but also have long range, it kinda makes them a necessity if you want versatile and ready to battle on any map.

I'm not sure what the best solution to all of this is. If I were an MWO God, it would take awhile for me to work it out, so I understand what the dev's are going through. One thing I would really like to see is more cover in Alpine Peaks. Tourmaline is still huge but is much better than Alpine Peaks for allowing a variety of builds to be effective. I think they need to focus on that goal in their map design. This may be even more effective than tweaking weapon specs/damage at this point.

[Agent 0 Fortune]

My solution is to NOT learn to play. Instead I have learned to WAIT. I trust that some day PGI will address the big issues and bring a semblance of blance back to the game. But for me it isn't worth the frustration to play before then. Especially when they intentionally ignore a simple fix for an immedate problem.

Does anyone know why PPCs were not adjusted yesterday? maybe a heat adjustment or a ballistics speed adjustment, you know one of those things that doesn't require any time in test. I'll give you three guesses and first two don't count.