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#1 Son of Horus

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 09:43 AM

Still learning, but after what I'm seeing today, I may be playing the wrong game.

My Flame with 2 ER PPC's caught a Raven who was AFK. I calmly approached his rear center, where at best he might have 10 armor.

I Alpha'd twice, that's 2 ER PPC's point blank twice each....he took 11 damage and seemed unphased? Just then a Highlander flew down out of nowhere, shot at me twice before I could scoot, I was dead in 5-6 seconds.

Yeah, that makes total sense.

Forget for a moment my noob playing, allowing myself to get snuck on by Superman from the skies...Er PPC into a stationary Raven's rear center = 11 damage....then a 60 ton, max armor, 2 shot in 6 seconds. M'kay.

Next game, Flame again, as we leave the starting blocks, a lancemate cores my back, some player I've never seen before on MY team.

I quit 7 years of WoW because the broken balancing of PvP (all I play) was too frustrating patch after patch, but this?

Understand, this is not QQ, I'm just trying to determine if I'm playing the right game. I love TT Battletech, and have since 1987. I want to love this game too.

* edited for spelling.

Edited by Son of Horus, 25 April 2013 - 02:52 PM.


#2 blinkin

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 09:46 AM

the raven has more than a few issues. most other light mechs do tend to die from that.

and occasionally you get d-bags on your team, in my experience they tend to be fairly rare.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 09:47 AM

If your expecting things to make sense or work correctly then you are playing the wrong game.

#4 Son of Horus

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 09:49 AM

View Postblinkin, on 25 April 2013 - 09:46 AM, said:

the raven has more than a few issues. most other light mechs do tend to die from that.

and occasionally you get d-bags on your team, in my experience they tend to be fairly rare.



Die? His core didn't even turn red.

#5 Klaus

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 09:52 AM

View PostSon of Horus, on 25 April 2013 - 09:43 AM, said:

a Highlander flew down out of nowhere, shot at me twice


You can't repel firepower of that magnitude obviously.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 10:06 AM

View PostSon of Horus, on 25 April 2013 - 09:43 AM, said:

Just then a Highlander flew down out of nowhere, shot at me twice before I could scoot, I was dead in 56 seconds.


Working as planned. I'm just surprised you lasted a whole 56 seconds!

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 10:07 AM

View PostSon of Horus, on 25 April 2013 - 09:43 AM, said:

Still learning, but after what I'm seeing today, I may be playing the wrong game.

My Flame with 2 ER PPC's caught a Raven who was AFK. I calmly approached his rear center, where at best he might have 10 armor.

I Alpha'd twice, that's 2 ER PPC's point blank twice each....he took 11 damage and seemed unphased? Just then a Highlander flew down out of nowhere, shot at me twice before I could scoot, I was dead in 56 seconds.

Yeah, that makes total sense.

Forget for a moment my noob playing, allowing myself to get snuck on by Superman from the skies...Er PPC into a stationary Raven's rear center = 11 damage....then a 60 ton, max armor, 2 shot in 6 seconds. M'kay.


1. There is something funky with hit detection on ballistcs and PPCs - sometimes hits simply don't register and sometimes they damage section other than the one you are shooting at (i.e. you hit someone in the rear and damage front CT armor).

2. Your Flame getting destroyed - was it a headshot? An ammo explosion? XL engine + destroyed side torso? A highlander would normally pack 3 PPCs + Gauss, so 45 dmg alpha to a single location. 2 alphas into the same spot = 90 dmg.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 10:45 AM

Why are you running 2 ERPPC in a Flame? That pairing is better suited to the 1C left torso. Give it a try you may like this config better.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 10:48 AM

Yes as others have said the Raven seems to have some funky hit box problems. Then fixed it some but it's not 100% where it needs to be.

Also there is all kinds of problems with the PPCs hit detection. Hits not registering or (my favorite) getting shot in the back and it doing damage to the front armor.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 10:53 AM

i'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR WEEKS AND KEEP GETTING TOLD i'M AN IDOT WITH NO SKILL.
IT'S WORST ON RAVENS BUT THE OTHER LIGHTS HAVE IT TOO AS DOES THE cICADA.

sorry blindish

Edited by MasterErrant, 25 April 2013 - 10:54 AM.


#11 TheMightyWashburn

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:20 AM

Do like I do. Just play a few matches after each patch. It is DEFINITELY GETTING BETTER, faster than you'd think. People ***** and ***** here. But truth be told they are working faster than most game devs i've seen.

#12 EyeOne

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:25 AM

View PostTheMightyWashburn, on 25 April 2013 - 11:20 AM, said:

Do like I do. Just play a few matches after each patch. It is DEFINITELY GETTING BETTER, faster than you'd think. People ***** and ***** here. But truth be told they are working faster than most game devs i've seen.



Well, I don't know about "faster than most game devs" but they are definitely working. I've heard people say some ridiculous things in the game like "This game was better in Close Beta"...

Oh no, it's sooo much better than that. It's got issues but heck, in CB we would just clip through everyone on the field.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:31 AM

I may be wrong...but doesn't a PPC have a MINIMUM range? As in, it would do almost no damage to shoot a PPC with the barrel of the gun touching the enemy mech?

I imagine that is why you got killed and did nothing.

#14 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:36 AM

View PostApost1e, on 25 April 2013 - 11:31 AM, said:

I may be wrong...but doesn't a PPC have a MINIMUM range? As in, it would do almost no damage to shoot a PPC with the barrel of the gun touching the enemy mech?

I imagine that is why you got killed and did nothing.

PPC? Yes.

Maybe you overlooked the "ER" part of the post? Because ERPPCs do NOT have a minimum range.

So yes, you would be wrong, but thanks for playing!

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:46 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 25 April 2013 - 11:36 AM, said:

PPC? Yes.

Maybe you overlooked the "ER" part of the post? Because ERPPCs do NOT have a minimum range.

So yes, you would be wrong, but thanks for playing!


Interesting. I did not know that ERPPC did not have a minimum range.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:49 AM

View PostSon of Horus, on 25 April 2013 - 09:49 AM, said:



Die? His core didn't even turn red.
File bug report. That's likely a glitch; I mainly play a Raven and even one ERPPC to the back strips most of my armor.

#17 Ryokens leap

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 12:36 PM

View PostApost1e, on 25 April 2013 - 11:46 AM, said:


Interesting. I did not know that ERPPC did not have a minimum range.


We're u the dead guy screaming at me in pug chat that "your PPC's do no damage under 90m NOOOOOB!", even after I replied that they are ER?

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 12:36 PM

View PostMasterErrant, on 25 April 2013 - 10:53 AM, said:

i'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR WEEKS AND KEEP GETTING TOLD i'M AN IDOT WITH NO SKILL.
IT'S WORST ON RAVENS BUT THE OTHER LIGHTS HAVE IT TOO AS DOES THE cICADA.

sorry blindish



QUOTED FOR IDOT!

#19 Son of Horus

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 02:56 PM

View PostStraften, on 25 April 2013 - 10:06 AM, said:


Working as planned. I'm just surprised you lasted a whole 56 seconds!



5-6, my bad!

View PostRyokens leap, on 25 April 2013 - 10:45 AM, said:

Why are you running 2 ERPPC in a Flame? That pairing is better suited to the 1C left torso. Give it a try you may like this config better.



I usually run 4 LLas, or 4MedLas + a Gauss, i had extra coin and was experimenting.

View PostApost1e, on 25 April 2013 - 11:31 AM, said:

I may be wrong...but doesn't a PPC have a MINIMUM range? As in, it would do almost no damage to shoot a PPC with the barrel of the gun touching the enemy mech?

I imagine that is why you got killed and did nothing.



No typo, It was an ER PPC, you mighta been reading too fast!

View PostRyokens leap, on 25 April 2013 - 12:36 PM, said:

We're u the dead guy screaming at me in pug chat that "your PPC's do no damage under 90m NOOOOOB!", even after I replied that they are ER?


Not I.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:03 PM

If running into bugs and glitches makes you question 'Is this the right game for me?' then maybe you should take some time off until more bugs are fixed and the game is more stable. The whole 'I's Beta' thing.





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