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[DCLXVI]

bad luck? i win 50% of matchs with a hot headed hunchie and 0 damage XD one player shouldn't effect 290/300 games lol unless you were shooting the wrong team

Edited by DCLXVI, 25 April 2013 - 04:22 AM.

[Belorion]

SteelWarrior, on 24 April 2013 - 09:10 PM, said:

annddddd theres your problem right there. Taking SSRM on a mech that doesnt have an ecm to disrupt with. F varient. XL 245 engine. 6 medium lasers. 17 double heat sinks. I average 400+ damage every game of the week. I have been up to and including 900+ damage in a hand ful of matches. Also should mention my F varient is elite unlocked and still has some 34k exp left over. That being said the D and K are crap.

He could run a ppc with the ssrms and do fine as well.

[Bishop Steiner]

Deathlike, on 24 April 2013 - 11:30 PM, said:

I swear, I should just be using the phase "you're doing it wrong".

There is a mentality that is required to use the Jenner effectively... you have to use it as a brawler, but more of the "smart brawling". Since you have the speed and mobility (JJs), you have to play kinda like a good 3L pilot, but not overplay that role since you don't have ECM.

Not every mech is built for every player....

Don't let the Pro-Gamers here you say this..... everyone knows that if you happen to pilot a YLW or a Spider extremely well, you would be a MUCH bigger help to your team in a Cataphract-3D or a Raven-3L. (even if your real world experience and track show you cannot, for whatever reason drive either of the latter worth a damn, yet you have obscene stats in the prior)

[MeiSooHaityu]

Tickdoff Tank, on 24 April 2013 - 06:58 PM, said:

302 drops in Jenners. 2 kills, 278 deaths. 3 wins.

Anyone able to beat that?

Which is highly amusing to me, my Spider stats are: 272 drops, 193 wins, 306 kills, 192 deaths. I am stunned that I do that much better in a spider than the jenner.

(I have reasonable stats in my other mechs, especially my phracts and hunchies, and I am not much of a poptart either)

Sounds like my experiences with lights LOL. I'm just not that good with them.

[Hobietime]

One Medic Army, on 24 April 2013 - 07:18 PM, said:

I am highly impressed, dare I ask what loadout(s) you use?

Jenner JR7-K

4x TAG + NARC

XL 100

4 tons of NARC ammo


In all seriousness though, it might be your elo being high from your spider games.

Edited by Hobietime, 25 April 2013 - 06:52 AM.

[Tickdoff Tank]

I am just not a Jenner pilot. I will be sticking to mediums and heavies for now. If I feel the need to reduce my ego to a quivering mass of jelly I will hop back in the jenner.

[Satchel 42]

Winning less than 1% is a near statistical impossibility. I don't know why you would lie about something like this but you obviously have. Or you're just mistaken. 3 wins in 300+ games isn't remotely possible.

[TruePoindexter]

Hobietime, on 25 April 2013 - 06:51 AM, said:

In all seriousness though, it might be your elo being high from your spider games.

Probably this in combination with inexperience with a Jenner. Are you sure you copied those stats right? They do seem low

[ekster]

Thank for posting this.

While the Jenner was always one of my beloved mechs for the longest time (10+ years), I am in no way a pro, and have a really bad tendency of going Rambo against assaults and heavies instead of capping when I notice that most of my team is dead and we can't win through destruction... still, I had my good moments, but I always thought of myself as an okay mech pilot only.

Now I feel like I am a master pilot when it comes to Jenners. So again, thanks for that!

[Deathlike]

Bishop Steiner, on 25 April 2013 - 04:28 AM, said:

Don't let the Pro-Gamers here you say this..... everyone knows that if you happen to pilot a YLW or a Spider extremely well, you would be a MUCH bigger help to your team in a Cataphract-3D or a Raven-3L. (even if your real world experience and track show you cannot, for whatever reason drive either of the latter worth a damn, yet you have obscene stats in the prior)

You would have to be exceptional for people to ignore your selection... and chances are many players simply aren't that good to overcome the "perceived handicap".

Edited by Deathlike, 25 April 2013 - 10:49 AM.

[RainbowToh]

Seriously you need to take a video to show us how you play a Jenner. If you are good with a Spider you should be doing fine with a Jenner since both mechs have JJ and thus allow similar styles.

[Inveramsay]

Well, if those are your stats then you really need to sell all your Jenners and buy ice cream with the change.

As for what you are doing wrong, common things I see when running my bigger mechs: standing still in front of an assault, running in predictable patterns, not having speed, not having lots of speed, being slow, having the wrong loadout, not having a team to fall back to. If you have a Jenny F then stick an XL300, 6xMlas and as many double heat sinks in there as you can fit. 2 JJ is enough. Jenny D you want 2xSRM4 w/ 2t ammo, 4xMlas and an XL300 and the usual 2JJ. If you have a Jenny K then sell it when you have completed elite. Don't let anyone talk you into running a standard engine and most certainly not running a smaller engine than 280. If you stop you will die, if you run in a straight line you will die, if you engage multiple enemies without your team you will die, if you over heat you will die, if you run into a Raven 3L you will die, if you get legged you will die, if you run round an assault you will die. I'm guessing you are getting the idea, do anything wrong and you will die. A jenner is completely unforgiving, it is like playing video games from the early 90's when it comes to holding your hand

[jper4]

i attempted to pilot jenners in closed beta and my experience was kinda like "bounce off wall, shoot building, bounce off other hill/building, see a mech briefly flash across my screen- shoot at the ground after they pass, bounce off something else and end up point blank in front of an atlas" <click here to spectate>

tried pre ecm ravens as well "ooh speed's more managable- jenners kill me in 5 seconds- may have actually hit something beforehand"

i have all of one assault mech (stalker 3F) which is either die with under 100 points or get a couple kills and 400+ points so it doesn;t come out that often. tried an atlas and i think i did better in my jenners....

mediums/some heavies (jager) it is for me it seems

[Krzysztof z Bagien]

Pics or didn't happen.

[Arctourus]

I don't think the armless nature of the jenner is an aiming issue. The only time arm vs. torso aiming messes me up is when I have a mech with weapons in both places that I try to alpha with on the move. It's easy to forget that those torso weapons may not line up with your arm weapons in a firefight. Having everything either in an arm location or in a torso location for me makes it easier to manage. I've had a lot of luck with my JR7-D. For most of it's life, I ran it with quad small lasers and two srm4s. Great mech, great loadout. I recently changed it to quad medium lasers and one srm6 after upgrading the engine to an XL300. About a week after doing so, I got to wanting a ranged build, so I swapped all the weapons for a pair of ER large lasers. Bad idea, very, very bad. So I'm going to head back to a more viable loadout. I love the jenner, I hope you get used to the chasis and have b etter luck.

[Grey Death Storm]

Tickdoff Tank, on 24 April 2013 - 06:58 PM, said:

302 drops in Jenners. 2 kills, 278 deaths. 3 wins.

Anyone able to beat that?

Which is highly amusing to me, my Spider stats are: 272 drops, 193 wins, 306 kills, 192 deaths. I am stunned that I do that much better in a spider than the jenner.

(I have reasonable stats in my other mechs, especially my phracts and hunchies, and I am not much of a poptart either)

Well

I tried out a light Mech just for some fun I was out in front scouting the area ahead as you do, I was at top speed 128 kph and came a cross the entire enemy lance. With out even thinking about it I did a very fast 180 U turn screaming at top voice Help me aaaahhhh crap help and I ran all the way back actually was quite funny as I was running in a zig zag way trying avoid enemy fire I eventually got back to my lance and hid behind a stalker like a frightened child, the enemy came killed him so I hid behind next assault mech preying for my survival TOP that and on that day i said never again will i drive a light mech.

[Attack Boss]

Holy Smokes...i just started and and have just eclipsed 20 matches and I already have 3 kills in my Jenner. I don't know why I have a soft spot for this mech but I do.

I dumped the SRM4 on my JR7-D and went with a SSRM2 just because im new and suck at aiming those missles

[MisterPlanetarian]

Done about 30 drops in my JR-F Came out alright with 2.7k/d mostly from double legging light mechs and rear torso shooting bigger mechs when they are distracted.

XL300, 12 DHS, 6xML, JJ. Might drop down to 4 and increase to 12 DHS, seems to give me alot more alpha strikes.

[DegeneratePervert]

I'm guessing your ELO is cranked up from your Spider. I'm basing this on the fact that I suck, but am an unholy death machine in a Jenner F. Also, another factor might be that the Jenner has a really long center torso, and with ballistic state rewind it's really easy to one-shot anything less than 50 tons.

[Kageru Ikazuchi]

Death Storm, on 26 April 2013 - 08:28 AM, said:

Well

I tried out a light Mech just for some fun I was out in front scouting the area ahead as you do, I was at top speed 128 kph and came a cross the entire enemy lance. With out even thinking about it I did a very fast 180 U turn screaming at top voice Help me aaaahhhh crap help and I ran all the way back actually was quite funny as I was running in a zig zag way trying avoid enemy fire I eventually got back to my lance and hid behind a stalker like a frightened child, the enemy came killed him so I hid behind next assault mech preying for my survival TOP that and on that day i said never again will i drive a light mech.

Running back to your team for support when outnumbered is almost always a good tactic ... if your team is just a little coordinated, and the enemy team is not (the "squirrel" effect), it can turn the tide of the game.

The trouble is getting your team to recognize the threat before the enemy arrives without voice comms.
Typing while dodging = dead light mech.