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[Bobzilla]

Joseph Marik, on 25 April 2013 - 12:01 PM, said:

I don't see Boating in and of itself as a problem. Boat Builds are actually quite inferior to multi-faceted ones. The problem right now is that the weapon balancing is a bit skewed, so things like LRM Boats in a good team (if you get a match that doesn't have enemies with ECM) will absolutely wreck.

However I don't see a problem with things like PPC or Gauss boats. Gauss Boats are difficult to pull off and are horrible at close range due to their long reload time (and given that only an Heavy or Assault Mech could pull this off, they wouldn't have speed or maneuverability on their side either). PPCs have similar problems, but suffer even more from Heat (and Heat Generation and Dissipation in this game is pretty skewed right now too).

The problem I have is any mech being destroyed in 2 shots due to the boating of weapons that can do pinpoint concentrated damage. 6ML's will lose to 2 gauss because the laser damage can be spread.

[Kristina Sarah McEvedy]

Bobzilla, on 25 April 2013 - 01:04 PM, said:

The problem I have is any mech being destroyed in 2 shots due to the boating of weapons that can do pinpoint concentrated damage. 6ML's will lose to 2 gauss because the laser damage can be spread.

I typically pilot a Cicada with four Med Pulse Lasers. I've taken on PPC Boats (4-6 PPCs), Gauss Snipers (2+ Gauss Rifles), LRM Boats, SRM Boats, and there hasn't been anything I've yet to be able to take down on my little Cicada.

If you're getting one-hit in a Light or Medium Mech, you may want to invest in a bigger engine to get more speed and work on your movement and "run and gun" tactics. If you're getting one-hit in a Heavy or Assault then you may just need to invest in more armour.

Now I'm not saying that the weapon balance is perfect, it isn't, certain weapons need tweaking, I'm just saying that Boating isn't the problem. 90% of the time, if I get fragged its from a good Brawler Mech or a well-built, all-around Mech, I rarely ever have problems with boats.

[Victor Morson]

The proper boating and sniper solution: Learning to play.

[Macheiron]

OP's suggestion is odd, sure, but it could actually work. Would you rather PGI arbitrarily limits weapons like PPCs and Gauss to only fire in pairs or solo repectively? That might work too actually, and you can say the reactor can't feed power to the greedy guns fast enough to do more than that!

Edited by Macheiron, 25 April 2013 - 01:20 PM.

[Bobzilla]

Joseph Marik, on 25 April 2013 - 01:11 PM, said:

I typically pilot a Cicada with four Med Pulse Lasers. I've taken on PPC Boats (4-6 PPCs), Gauss Snipers (2+ Gauss Rifles), LRM Boats, SRM Boats, and there hasn't been anything I've yet to be able to take down on my little Cicada.

If you're getting one-hit in a Light or Medium Mech, you may want to invest in a bigger engine to get more speed and work on your movement and "run and gun" tactics. If you're getting one-hit in a Heavy or Assault then you may just need to invest in more armour.

Now I'm not saying that the weapon balance is perfect, it isn't, certain weapons need tweaking, I'm just saying that Boating isn't the problem. 90% of the time, if I get fragged its from a good Brawler Mech or a well-built, all-around Mech, I rarely ever have problems with boats.

I've taken out a cat, dragon and treb with a one legged ravin. I've also been 1-shotted going 150kph from a mech 1/2 way accross the map. I didn't say boating is the problem, its the ability to concentrate damage to one area, which is just magnified by boating.