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[Kell Morgan]

Ok I have heavy mechs and light mech. ( dont care for mediums)

I am just torn on this subject I want an assault mech! I have had stalkers, absolutely hated how slow they where.

Given the current meta of the game I'm leaning highlander but REALLY like the atlas as a chassis. Im trying to weigh the good and the bad about both mechs. What are more advanced teams running these days?

I have enough cbills to buy anything in the game was waiting for orion but just found out that's another month away than I thought it was.

I LOVE ECM and the tactical advantage we get from it. as well as the extra armor the atlas has.

I currently like pop tarting as well but am starting to feel cheezy about it. What do you think would be best mech in the LONG run of the game?

[Tastian]

The Highlander and Atlas are as slow or slower then the Stalker. And they have a larger profile.

The Atlas has more armor and just as good hardpoints as the Highlander. The Highlander can jump but you will lose tonnage to those heavy jumpjets so you are forced to use an XL engine if you want to maintain better speed.

I personally prefer the Stalker

[Yokaiko]

Kell Morgan, on 30 April 2013 - 11:09 AM, said:

Ok I have heavy mechs and light mech. ( dont care for mediums)

I am just torn on this subject I want an assault mech! I have had stalkers, absolutely hated how slow they where.

Given the current meta of the game I'm leaning highlander but REALLY like the atlas as a chassis. Im trying to weigh the good and the bad about both mechs. What are more advanced teams running these days?

I have enough cbills to buy anything in the game was waiting for orion but just found out that's another month away than I thought it was.

I LOVE ECM and the tactical advantage we get from it. as well as the extra armor the atlas has.

I currently like pop tarting as well but am starting to feel cheezy about it. What do you think would be best mech in the LONG run of the game?

If you are worried long run, get both. Its pretty close between the Highlander and the Atlas with a number of builds, you basically have to chose mobility or armor.

My 733C is basically a D-DC without ECM, down some armor and with 4 JJs.
My Atlas D is a VERY slow, armored to hell -3D with backup weapons
My -RS and -733P are pretty close in build, the 733 has more missiles, and the altas has a gauss....and of course no JJs.

The Metal is its own monster.
The Atlas -K sucks lol

[Kell Morgan]

Its not so much JUST the speed of the stalker the side torsos just seem flimsy to me.

[Yokaiko]

Tastian, on 30 April 2013 - 11:15 AM, said:

The Highlander can jump but you will lose tonnage to those heavy jumpjets so you are forced to use an XL engine if you want to maintain better speed.

No real need for an XL unless you are doing the stack of PPCs or you want to go Awesome speeds. A 300 standard allows for a nice mix of firepower and mobility....with the JJs.

[Kell Morgan]

Yokaiko, on 30 April 2013 - 11:16 AM, said:

If you are worried long run, get both. Its pretty close between the Highlander and the Atlas with a number of builds, you basically have to chose mobility or armor.

My 733C is basically a D-DC without ECM, down some armor and with 4 JJs.
My Atlas D is a VERY slow, armored to hell -3D with backup weapons
My -RS and -733P are pretty close in build, the 733 has more missiles, and the altas has a gauss....and of course no JJs.

The Metal is its own monster.
The Atlas -K sucks lol

uhhhg and that's my problem they are all trade offs lol

I love jj's and I love ecm... lol

Edited by Kell Morgan, 30 April 2013 - 11:19 AM.

[Stokes52]

The Atlas is a strange mech. It's very powerful, but not on its own. Its slow enough that once you are engaged in a battle, that battle must continue until you are destroyed, your enemy is destroyed, or your enemy retreats.There is no retreat in an Atlas. When you are committed, you are committed.

Because of this, you have to choose your battles very carefully and you have to make sure your team is ready to help when you finally engage. When you finally do engage though, you are an incredible tank, wielding more armor than any other chassis.

It has been a very challenging chassis to get used to but it is also very very fun when you get those rounds where, through sheer firepower and armor combined with a little teammate help, you are able to core 4+ enemy mechs in a single round.

Edited by Stokes52, 30 April 2013 - 11:22 AM.

[Yokaiko]

Kell Morgan, on 30 April 2013 - 11:18 AM, said:

uhhhg and that's my problem they are all trade offs lol

As it should be, putz around on smurfy's and whatever you can find the three builds you like best with roll with. The Atlases are actually cheaper because you CAN'T use an XL, get that idea out of your head, they are turrets and you lose side torsos, a LOT.

Highlanders get away with XLs much better (mobility again) which adds 50% to the prices of the mechs.

[Andross Deverow]

I cant bring myself to use a Highlander personally. Im just not a big fan of the way they are set-up. It seems like once they lose their right side weapons they are no longer a major threat as most the variants of the Highlander have their direct fire weapons on the right side. Atlas chassis have direct fire hardpoints on both sides. Granted the HM variant of Highlander has direct fire hardpoints on both sides but no way will I pay that kind of $$ for digital property..LOL!!

In retrospect, I may try a Highlander if they ever put some damage back on SRM's at least then the left side hardpoints may provide some direct fire damage even though its a bit spread out due to missles.

Regards

[Yokaiko]

Andross Deverow, on 30 April 2013 - 11:26 AM, said:

I cant bring myself to use a Highlander personally. Im just not a big fan of the way they are set-up. It seems like once they lose their right side weapons they are no longer a major threat as most the variants of the Highlander have their direct fire weapons on the right side. Atlas chassis have direct fire hardpoints on both sides. Granted the HM variant of Highlander has direct fire hardpoints on both sides but no way will I pay that kind of $$ for digital property..LOL!!

In retrospect, I may try a Highlander if they ever put some damage back on SRM's at least then the left side hardpoints may provide some direct fire damage even though its a bit spread out due to missles.

Regards

My 733 has 4 ASRM 6s, go ahead beat the right side off. I've still rocking along. I even put a gauss on the right to makeit tempting.

[Andross Deverow]

Yokaiko, on 30 April 2013 - 11:28 AM, said:

My 733 has 4 ASRM 6s, go ahead beat the right side off. I've still rocking along. I even put a gauss on the right to makeit tempting.

Like i said I will beat the right side of a Highlander to death and core it with no fear of the nerffed damage from SRM's at this moment in time. They just cant do enough damage to be worried about. As I mentioned I will more than likely add some Highlanders to my garage as soon as they fix the damage nerf to the missles.

[Kell Morgan]

I've put about 3 hours into smurfy looking at all the build options.... I would agree about highlanders loosing there right torsos being a problem. they have the mobility advantage but Im still debating

[Yokaiko]

Andross Deverow, on 30 April 2013 - 11:32 AM, said:

Like i said I will beat the right side of a Highlander to death and core it with no fear of the nerffed damage from SRM's at this moment in time. They just cant do enough damage to be worried about. As I mentioned I will more than likely add some Highlanders to my garage as soon as they fix the damage nerf to the missles.

A few have figure for that, even nerfed that is 36 damage and it hurts.

[Corvus Antaka]

the atlas is quicker on its feet than the highlander and has more armour. highlander has jumpjets which is nice for poptarting

[Yokaiko]

Colonel Pada Vinson, on 30 April 2013 - 11:38 AM, said:

the atlas is quicker on its feet than the highlander and has more armour. highlander has jumpjets which is nice for poptarting

Only a pure brawler 350 atlas, which doesn't have room for any range.

[Corvus Antaka]

Yokaiko, on 30 April 2013 - 11:39 AM, said:

Only a pure brawler 350 atlas, which doesn't have room for any range.

maybe. my build says otherwise

[SgtMagor]

I Like the Atlas and Highlander equally, they both can be total wrecking machines, but you can jump in the HGN so do the math...

[Kell Morgan]

Atleast I know I'm in good company lol

Most people are saying that they really like both.... only have room for one of them at the moment.

[Sadistic Savior]

Kell Morgan, on 30 April 2013 - 11:09 AM, said:

Ok I have heavy mechs and light mech. ( dont care for mediums)

I am just torn on this subject I want an assault mech! I have had stalkers, absolutely hated how slow they where.

Given the current meta of the game I'm leaning highlander but REALLY like the atlas as a chassis. Im trying to weigh the good and the bad about both mechs. What are more advanced teams running these days?

I have enough cbills to buy anything in the game was waiting for orion but just found out that's another month away than I thought it was.

I LOVE ECM and the tactical advantage we get from it. as well as the extra armor the atlas has.

I currently like pop tarting as well but am starting to feel cheezy about it. What do you think would be best mech in the LONG run of the game?

The Atlas is a jack-of-all-trades mech for assaults. That is why I passed on it. I like being able to specialize weapons, and all the Atlas models seem to have everything spread all over. The only thing it has that I miss is ECM capability. Dual AMS is probably also nice.

Highlanders are jump capable and seem to have better hardpoints if you like arm mounted ballistics. They can also mount an AC/20 in arms, and as far as I know are the only Assaults that do so. I really REALLY like this on maps where you have to follow a target over steep terrain...the mobility of arm mounted AC/20 of Gauss cannot be understated IMO. They can be great missile boats as well if you're into that. All Highlanders except HM have a lopsided hardpoint setup where all direct fire weapons are on one side, which has always irritated me. If you don't like missiles, you will have to get used to having all your weapons on one torso/arm.

Highlanders are definitely far more mobile than an Atlas. But most times I have gone head to head with an Atlas I have lost. I only beat them from a distance or over rough terrain.

Also: Pop-tarting is not any cheezier than ECM. If anything ECM is worse...at least pop-tarting requires some skill and timing. ECM is just on auto-pilot.

Colonel Pada Vinson, on 30 April 2013 - 11:38 AM, said:

the atlas is quicker on its feet than the highlander and has more armour. highlander has jumpjets which is nice for poptarting

How can the Atlas ever be quicker? It has the same engine limitations as everyone else, but more weight.

[Kell Morgan]

Sadistic Savior, on 30 April 2013 - 12:03 PM, said:

How can the Atlas ever be quicker? It has the same engine limitations as everyone else, but more weight.

Think its refering to a 320 engine vs a 360 but maxed out the highlander is still faster. by like .2 i think