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Mysteries Of Elo Dropping


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#1 Koreanese

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 07:00 AM

As I played lot of matches lately, I noticed a pattern. Regardless of win or loose, I can figure out that out of3 out of 6 are low elo, 2 med, 1 high elo matches. This is just my guess. I can win a high elo match then be dropped into low elo. Reason? My guess is there r lot more low elo then higher ones. Also, high elo matches are more frequent around 7-11pm PDT time.

#2 Yokaiko

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 07:02 AM

View PostKoreanese, on 01 May 2013 - 07:00 AM, said:

As I played lot of matches lately, I noticed a pattern. Regardless of win or loose, I can figure out that out of3 out of 6 are low elo, 2 med, 1 high elo matches. This is just my guess. I can win a high elo match then be dropped into low elo. Reason? My guess is there r lot more low elo then higher ones. Also, high elo matches are more frequent around 7-11pm PDT time.



Yeah its called lack of population. I always play late aussie/early euro, all bets are of during those times.

#3 Deathlike

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 08:10 AM

Oh.. I thought dropping with/against Koreanese was a sign that my ELO was skewed newbie style. This confirms it!

#4 Yokaiko

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 08:13 AM

I just came out of a game where 4 mechs on my team for accounted for a whopping 37 damage....

We won the game. It devolved down to another huncher and I fighting with only our head lasers at one point.

WTB melee, at least we could have kicked each other.

Edited by Yokaiko, 01 May 2013 - 08:14 AM.


#5 Koreanese

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 08:34 AM

You got my hunch.... so let me kick you in the face!

#6 Yokaiko

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 08:35 AM

View PostKoreanese, on 01 May 2013 - 08:34 AM, said:

You got my hunch.... so let me kick you in the face!



I took a break to get a new bottle of whiskey I have a couple hours.

#7 Yokaiko

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 09:07 AM

On that note you doing any or locking on assault or conq

#8 Koreanese

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 09:28 AM

any

#9 Yokaiko

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 09:28 AM

View PostKoreanese, on 01 May 2013 - 09:28 AM, said:

any



same.

If I could keep my mechlab from locking every ten minutes.

This game is ******* me off more and more.

#10 Skyraxx

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 09:32 AM

I noticed this too. Seems like late evening or if you have the stamina to stay up late is when you get put in the lowest elo matches.

#11 Yokaiko

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 09:35 AM

View PostSkyraxx, on 01 May 2013 - 09:32 AM, said:

I noticed this too. Seems like late evening or if you have the stamina to stay up late is when you get put in the lowest elo matches.



Try at 8am eastern US.

******* terrible.

....and it just gets worse.

#12 Wintersdark

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 12:25 AM

Yeah, the time you play at definitely impacts how well Elo matching plays out. I'm working nights right now, so I'm dropping at roughly 3am central time... And there's a WIDE skill range in matches.

#13 Soulscour

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 02:19 AM

Lets be honest. Does anyone really trust the elo matchmaking system? From what I get when pugging, I certainly do not. The player pool is probably too low for ratings to even matter.

#14 TheGreatNoNo

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 02:34 AM

I spend upward to a minute looking for matches, I run into what feel like eight mans vs cadets all the time. And yes, my Elo is low, oh so low.

#15 Arete

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 02:43 AM

Wait times are a clear indication to what you'll get.

A quick match means it's quite often well balanced in terms of rating, means many with the same rating are playing.

A long match means all bets are off, you can get a mix of everything from top players to completely new players.

And when it takes a really long time, you're matched with me :-D

#16 FerretGR

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 04:46 AM

View PostSoulscour, on 02 May 2013 - 02:19 AM, said:

Lets be honest. Does anyone really trust the elo matchmaking system? From what I get when pugging, I certainly do not. The player pool is probably too low for ratings to even matter.


I'm being honest, I think it does a great job. People like to blame Elo for things it can't possibly be responsible for. It's better than random matchmaking.

#17 Onmyoudo

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 05:03 AM

Since they rebalanced ELO I've had a lot more success with it. There are still total fools on both sides though.

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 06:19 AM

Early morning is really terrible. When I tried to get a few more points on the board day 5 I found it to be dang near impossible to get a game worth over 200 points. Hit 950 points in about 20 matches over 2 hours during primetime, 6 hours of late night and early morning grinding was pretty much a waste. If I didn't recognize any of the other players my teammates would put out 200-300 damage each, with a few exceptions. If another good pilot was also on my team (Venerable Hobo was often on the same team last night) none of the other 6 ever seemed to do over 100 damage. If we won, Venerable and I would split most of the kills and damage so I didn't improve in the standings. If we lost I also typically died, so that's a 20 point hit right there. Last night I often had mediocre teammates at best, and was frequently pitted against 4 man drops. Became pretty frustrating as you could probably tell already.

Between 4pm and 11pm EST is where the good times live.

Off topic a bit, I really don't know how anyone can legitimately get 1000+ points in under an hour without being ridiculously lucky. The last few games before I gave up last night I saw some players jump fast. Like a 4+ 200+ point games in a row (guessing based on posted score divided by 5). The matchmaker crapshoot must really love some players, provided it's all legit. Well that's my rant...

#19 Inkarnus

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 06:19 AM

how can elo work when we got drops like 325 vs 525 tons were the winner
is predestined anyways if he has half a brain

#20 Mechteric

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 06:28 AM

Matching with Elo is still 100 times better than when we didn't have it. I seriously got tired of the PUG stomps, it was hilariously unbalanced back than. At least now its close enough to where I don't feel that way all the time (just once in a while)





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