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[Corbon Zackery]

M903 SLAP (Saboted Light Armor Penetrator) round can perforate 1.34 inches (34 mm) of HHA (face-hardened steel plate) at 500 metres (550 yd), 0.91 inches (23 mm) at 1,200 metres (1,300 yd), and 0.75 inches (19 mm) at 1,500 metres (1,600 yd). This is achieved by using a 0.30-inch-diameter (7.6 mm) tungsten penetrator. The SLAP-T adds a tracer charge to the base of the ammunition. This ammunition was type classified in 1993.[26][27]

This is the best ammo you can get for a machine gun and its not going to do squat to a mech with over 10 tons of armor on it at best some nicks and dents. MG are use for light vehicles and infantry not taking down mechs

Upgrading the MG is hard to do because you have to balance damge, rate of fire, ammo consumption.

That's why they have a range of 90m close up they can group to do some dmg but after 90m they lose speed spread out and drop down due to gravity making them ineffective out past 90m

[Deathlike]

Maybe I should start a thread about the MG ROF discussion... but given that lasers and pulse lasers also use a similar ROF dynamic (in duration) like the MG... I wonder if they do the damage they claim they do?

[Phoenix Gray]

Ghost Badger, on 03 May 2013 - 08:18 AM, said:

Well, this should have quite some bearing on your discussion.

http://mwomercs.com/...18#entry2315318

Double your damage and increase your effective range.

NO NO NO! If they increase the range and damage of the MG the MWO game universe is doomed! Think of all the poor defenseless gauss boats and 6-PPC Stalkers helpless before such terror!

[jeffsw6]

Corbon Zackery, on 04 May 2013 - 03:01 PM, said:

M903 SLAP (Saboted Light Armor Penetrator) round can perforate 1.34 inches (34 mm) of HHA (face-hardened steel plate) at 500 metres (550 yd), 0.91 inches (23 mm) at 1,200 metres (1,300 yd), and 0.75 inches (19 mm) at 1,500 metres (1,600 yd). This is achieved by using a 0.30-inch-diameter (7.6 mm) tungsten penetrator. The SLAP-T adds a tracer charge to the base of the ammunition. This ammunition was type classified in 1993.[26][27]

I don't think that 1993 technology is necessarily what is being used in Mechs.

I also don't think that Mech armor is 34mm Steel Plate. I don't know exactly how much armored surface area an Atlas has, but if it needed around 3200 ft^2 of armor (a reasonable guess) then that would weigh 89 tons, if the Atlas had 34mm steel plate. Basically, it would be like a main battle tank, except much larger and heavier with no free tonnage for weapons; and yet without the high-tech reactive armor of today's tanks (you are the one who brought steel plate into this discussion.)

TL;DR: Your post is totally irrelevant. If it wasn't, it would be wrong anyway, because you didn't do any arithmetic.

Edited by jeffsw6, 05 May 2013 - 03:46 AM.

[Gamgee]

I misread the notes as .8 dps and a range increase and was happy. Now I know it's actually .08, and I am back to laughing. I guess some things just don't change do they PGI (I've been gone a month).

Phoenix Gray, on 04 May 2013 - 04:28 PM, said:

NO NO NO! If they increase the range and damage of the MG the MWO game universe is doomed! Think of all the poor defenseless gauss boats and 6-PPC Stalkers helpless before such terror!

Yes, let's all run in terror before we get a slightly faded paint job. This sums up the buffs and the machine gun.

Edit
I think we need to get the damage to .1 and see where to go from here, right now it's just not useful. I like that they realize this thing needs to change, but as it is just useless.

Edited by Gamgee, 05 May 2013 - 08:56 PM.