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[WolvesX]

This is how patch notes should look like!

http://euw.leagueofl....com/node/12931

I don't know anything about this game anymore (compedative), but small explained changes are just.

Super++

[Stoicblitzer]

they look a different language to me.

[Tennex]

notice how every patch has balance changes. Balance changes are made in reaction to something that became broken at the maximum of a month ago.

instead of 3-5 months ago like in this game.

Edited by Tennex, 16 May 2013 - 11:45 AM.

[Tennex]

meanwhile in MWO, the balance subforums is the most browsed forum by a large margin. yet they still neglect to make periodic balance changes.

[Nation Uprise]

Tennex, on 16 May 2013 - 11:44 AM, said:

notice how every patch has balance changes. Balance changes are made in reaction to something that became broken at the maximum of a month ago.

instead of 3-5 months ago like in this game.

In this game every patch has something you have to pay real money for. Balance changes are always pushed to a later date. Anywhere from two weeks to six months (ECM). I don't think I've ever seen a Hero mech, Cockpit items, camo, etc. ever get pushed back.

Edited by Nation Uprise, 16 May 2013 - 11:55 AM.

[Syllogy]

Yeah... I was going to type up something witty, but some of the responses are just dumb.

Edited by Syllogy, 16 May 2013 - 12:17 PM.

[GroovYChickeN]

If you hate it so much then stop playing this game and stop posting on the forums. Otherwise stop making the same post over and over again.

[Syllogy]

Tennex, on 16 May 2013 - 11:44 AM, said:

notice how every patch has balance changes. Balance changes are made in reaction to something that became broken at the maximum of a month ago.

instead of 3-5 months ago like in this game.

We've already been through the process where they change weapons every time they patch. Balance changes take time, metrics take time, and decisions take time.

Nation Uprise, on 16 May 2013 - 11:54 AM, said:

In this game every patch has something you have to pay real money for. Balance changes are always pushed to a later date. Anywhere from two weeks to six months (ECM). I don't think I've ever seen a Hero mech, Cockpit items, camo, etc. ever get pushed back.

Content creators don't program the game or balance weapons, genius.

[Akulakhan]

Syllogy, on 16 May 2013 - 11:58 AM, said:

Yeah... I was going to type up something witty, but some of the responses are just dumb.

GroovYChickeN, on 16 May 2013 - 11:59 AM, said:

If you hate it so much then stop playing this game and stop posting on the forums. Otherwise stop making the same post over and over again.

PGI WHITE KNIGHTS....ASSEEEEEEEEEEMMMMBLLLEEE

[GroovYChickeN]

Akulakhan, on 16 May 2013 - 12:21 PM, said:

PGI WHITE KNIGHTS....ASSEEEEEEEEEEMMMMBLLLEEE

What?

[Bishop Steiner]

Akulakhan, on 16 May 2013 - 12:21 PM, said:

PGI WHITE KNIGHTS....ASSEEEEEEEEEEMMMMBLLLEEE

oh dear.. how dare someone not spend all their time dripping hate and venom..... because if we don't say PGI are fascists and the sky is falling we are white knights, blind to the "truth".

Or, you are juvenile lemmings, who are pathetically spending time whining about a game when you could be spending it doing something productive or at least fun on a game you DO enjoy?

[PanzerMagier]

I'd just like to say I love you all. It brings joy to my heart seeing everyone devote themselves fervently in bettering MWO.

[Keifomofutu]

I really wish they would do more consistent smaller balance changes every month or so rather than waiting till people get annoyed and start posting hate threads about issues. And then when they finally change something they usually swing the pendulum way too far.

A good example is pulse lasers. Rather than waiting until the community organizes a "save the pulse lasers" fundraiser why not start tweaking them just a bit at a time.

[SirLANsalot]

to those idiots out there.

The Camo, Hero Mechs, ect are all part of the Art department. It also is the first part of the game that is completely setup so they can crank out mechs, patterns and the like, in rapid secession. As for the rest, it seems like there not completely up to speed, or are already working on things far ahead of our current "issues".

Our current "meta" changes so fast, and currently is the work of a non existent LRM system. That the Dev's themselves with the vertion they are working on, the issues we see now, aren't a problem there. E.G. Devs are working on v.8999 and were playing with v.8996, so things are different between live world (us) and PGI world (devs).

[Pac Man]

Nation Uprise, on 16 May 2013 - 11:54 AM, said:

In this game every patch has something you have to pay real money for. Balance changes are always pushed to a later date. Anywhere from two weeks to six months (ECM). I don't think I've ever seen a Hero mech, Cockpit items, camo, etc. ever get pushed back.

Big reason for this is that when they announce content items, it's already been approved by IGP and PGI has developed it. They also have completely different teams working on Content items versus Balance/Mechanics within the game. So when we start bitching about one piece of gear or another, they have to start their own investigation, testing, tweaking, more testing, more tweaking, then get approvals and everything before they can begin to implement it into the game. You can't expect them to simply change something because a hundred people want it changed. There are a lot of factors involved, and it takes a lot of time.

[TruePoindexter]

WolvesX, on 16 May 2013 - 11:43 AM, said:

This is how patch notes should look like!

http://euw.leagueofl....com/node/12931

I don't know anything about this game anymore (compedative), but small explained changes are just.

Super++

Patch notes should be in German ?

[GroovYChickeN]

Keifomofutu, on 16 May 2013 - 12:44 PM, said:

I really wish they would do more consistent smaller balance changes every month or so rather than waiting till people get annoyed and start posting hate threads about issues. And then when they finally change something they usually swing the pendulum way too far.

A good example is pulse lasers. Rather than waiting until the community organizes a "save the pulse lasers" fundraiser why not start tweaking them just a bit at a time.

I agree with you for the most part. I do think you need to leave time in to let the dust settle after making a change.

However I also understand why they are not making weapon balance changes at the moment. One, they are still working on them, and Two they have some other parts of the game engine to put in place HTR for LRM's and SRM's.

ALSO!

It's not like they have just been sitting around watching cat videos. They have been working on the game so there is a lot of stuff they have in the hopper that they haven't released yet.

[Nation Uprise]

Syllogy, on 16 May 2013 - 12:20 PM, said:

Content creators don't program the game or balance weapons, genius.

::Sigh:: I wonder why people's first instinct is to get aggressive.

I know. What I'm saying is that even with different teams working on individual aspects of the game, the team assigned to make balance changes is extremely slow compared to the team assigned to making mechs, camo and cockpit items. Which is odd seeing how Hero mechs and cockpit items take a lot of time to make with animations, modeling and skinning and even with all that always manage to make it into every patch.

[Karyu]

Could it be that they are in no rush to change certain things because they are already balancing current tech with upcoming T2 and Clan tech, while trying to impliment mechanics for tech that isn't out yet like MASC/C3 etc in their internal builds? Nah....that's ridiculous...

[Keifomofutu]

Karyu, on 16 May 2013 - 03:56 PM, said:

Could it be that they are in no rush to change certain things because they are already balancing current tech with upcoming T2 and Clan tech, while trying to impliment mechanics for tech that isn't out yet like MASC/C3 etc in their internal builds? Nah....that's ridiculous...

Because better small pulse lasers and srms2s would completely crush clan tech amirite?