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[Spike Spiegal]

The thermal view in this game is terribly broken...it seemst to just show arbitary tempatures....for instance on the winter map...the hot objects are supposed to be WHITE cept the terrain with SNOW on the ground is shown as white....and the non frozen water is actually COLDER than the frozen water (snow) on the ground....in fact the mechs tempatures are actually EQUAL to the tempature of the snow on the ground according to the terma

this needs to be corrected....on the cold maps the entire terrain should be black, with the excception of buildings which maybe giving off heat....


the termal is useless as it stands now and is not thermal at all...its just a cheap place holder it seems....


remember things that are cold (even the ground) show up as dark....thats how thermal works but now the snow on some maps shows up as HOTTER than the actual mechs....but i supposed thats reality right


please fix....someone with real world experience with thermals this is a gross oversight and an insult to the players of the game....

[Zerberus]

Welcome.

Rule 1 of BT: Never assume that real world physics apply in MWO, lest ye be pressed to explain why bigger ACs have a shorter range and in the age or orbital bombardment the 100 ton walking tank with less range than a modern day Sniper is somehow supreme master of the battlefield

In a similar vein, never assume that what you may have mounted on a rifle is the be all end all of technology. On modern thermals /FLIR systems such as those mounted in an AH-64 Apache Longbow or AC-130 Spectre gunship, you can invert the colors to act very much like the MWO scheme, which often helps in IFF detection, especially from long range.

I`m not saying you may or may not have a valid point, but the position you`re arguing from ("It`s not realistic") carries zero weight in the BT universe.

If your position were "I don`t like it because I think it looks wrong" instead of "change it because it`s unrealistic", you might get somewhere with this in the long term.

Any when I say long, I mean long, It`s not even 4 weeks ago that we were presented with the updated heat vision which IIRC was generally well received over the previous Blue version (which actually was more realistic in many ways, at least when compared to what the general public thinks IR view looks like as opposed to what it really looks like).

BTW, w/o wanting to sound like an ***, It`s spelled "temperature", not "tempature". Only you can save english from a horrible death by internet.

Edited by Zerberus, 18 May 2013 - 10:01 AM.

[Spike Spiegal]

Zerberus, on 18 May 2013 - 09:52 AM, said:

Rule 1 of BT: Never assume that real world physics apply in MWO, lest ye be pressed to explain why bigger ACs have a shorter range and in the age or orbital bombardment the 100 ton walking tank is somehow supreme master of the battlefield

Never assume that what you may have mounted on a rifle is the be all end all of technology. For on modern thermals such as those mounted in an AH-64 Apache Longbow or AC-130 Spectre gunship, you can invert the colors to act very much like the MWO scheme, which often helps in IFF detection.

I`m not saying you may or may not have a valid point, but the position you`re arguing from ("It`s not realistic") carries zero weight in the BT universe.

so pleae tell me why a planet with ambient temp of like 80C actually shows AS COLDER than the snow planet that is like at a negative degrees C??

thats just ********....some of the snow maps the temp of the snow is the same as our mechs at "idle"

this to me is just ********....

also regarded the "age of orbital bombardment" statment...the same could be said about today with the ages of drones and nukes what need to we have for BOOTS ON THE GROUND....

bro you have white hot and black hot switching between the two simply inverts the colors if they added a black hot view it would still have the same flaw the colors would just be inverted....

you seem to now know enough about this technology to be able to comment on it...

also the way tempature works in the MWO universe i would imagine would be the same as it is in this real universe...youknow where water freezes at like 0C unless in the mwo universe the water freezes at a HIGHER temp...

also the only way that termals will help with IFF is if teh friendlys or the target has some infrared blinker or some other IR markers on their preson...

[Adridos]

Spike Spiegal, on 18 May 2013 - 10:01 AM, said:

in this real universe...youknow where water freezes at like 0C unless in the mwo universe the water freezes at a HIGHER temp...

I must live in a different world around here, because exactly like our physics teacher told us, both the melting point and freezing point are heavily influenced by pressure.

Yeah... nitpicking, you're doing the same right now.

[Spike Spiegal]

you are right im just nitpicking...i mean our mechs at idle are actually COLDER than the snow on the ground in that snow city map....if thats nitpicking then well thats just sad...

also the pressure ?? the variations regarding pressure are pretty much irrelevant on the planets we are fighting on...

i should not have to differentiate between the ambient ground temp (frozen ground) and the color of the mechs on thermal view...thats not even close to being correct...if anything on the cold maps the termal should be blacked out unless we come accros a heat source....

[Adridos]

http://mwomercs.com/...ith-a-question/

[Scandinavian Jawbreaker]

Some good points, but still 100x better than BlueWarrior.

[Zerberus]

*Post deleted because he didn`t get it the first time or even try as evidenced by his childish rebuttal, so why should a wall of text change anything? Willful ignorance is apparently bliss.*

Edited by Zerberus, 18 May 2013 - 12:08 PM.

[Tsula]

Its a game who cares. its better the the blue they had.

[Escef]

I like the current heat and night visions because now I have a reason to use something other than thermal. The old thermal vision was hands down better for everything. Now I only use thermal in Frozen City when it's snowing, and I actually use night vision. Before, if i was going for a long range shot, it was thermal, all way. The only reason I used normal vision was because blue blob thermal was hard on the eyes after awhile.