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[Brotherchaplain]

Hello all,

Seems like the heavy hitters of the parts enthusiasts club are all here lol. So I will ask you all in this much learned and experienced set of people some advise If I could please.

I have a dual core cpu that I am finding out doesnt cut in with modern games. So it seems I need an upgrade. All I beleive I am going to need is a CPU, mobo, and new ram. The rest I can reuse as the rest of the parts are more modern and function well for my needs.

So I have found a few items that I would like some advise on if you all could take the time. Need to know If they are worth the price, if there are better alternatives for the same money, ext. Any advise would be greatly appreciated.

The CPU I like thusfar is
AMD FX-8150 FX 8-Core Black Edition

http://www.amazon.co...=I32YWUCZ380EZC

I think this ram seems ok for the price.:
Corsair Vengeance 8 GB ( 2 x 4 GB ) DDR3 1600 MHz

http://www.amazon.co...=I2LDMJAU3BY5N4

My only problem area is the Motherboard. There are a lot of possibilities and I don't know the benefits of the differences. I do not have enough knowledge to safely overclock nor do I want to mess with it.
I just want to take the guts out of what I have and replace them, which is well within my experience and comfort level.

Here are the mobos I have been looking at:
http://www.amazon.co...d=IPJ48OGI0BKL2

http://www.amazon.co...=I21344ZECYE35P

They are relatively cheap and seem like they will do everything I need and match the CPU and the ram I have selected.

I also have a Corsair Gaming Series 800-Watt 80 Plus Certified Power Supply to run it all with already so that shouldn't be an issue.

I would greatly appreciate any advise on the CPU/mobo or any similarly prices alternatives.

Thanks all in advance for the advise.

[Dark Fact]

Do not go for an AMD-based system unless you're building something low end. It's not a true 8 core, by the way, it's more of a 4 core with some duplicated functionality in each core, making it more efficient at certain types of workloads.

At this price point, your ultimate choice would be the Intel Core i5-3570K. It's actually cheaper than that AMD CPU if you buy it from Microcenter: http://www.microcent...duct_id=0388577

If you do not plan to overclock, you may be able to find the non-K version for a bit cheaper. As far as motherboards go, I went for the ASUS P8Z77-V Pro myself, because it was on sale. Otherwise, I would have gone with the cheaper P8Z77-V. The ASRock Z77 Extreme6 is also considered a pretty solid board, and can be had cheaper. The boards however are more expensive than the ones you were looking at. I believe they have non-SLI supporting boards with less features, that are cheaper, but I've never looked into those.

[WardenWolf]

Honestly, for the price of that CPU I would advise getting an Intel Core i5 instead. Intel simply has a performance advantage in games these days - and this is coming from someone who swore by AMD a decade ago. I just moved from an AMD platform to Intel on my home system, in preparation for MWO, and I went with the Core i5 3550 - for almost exactly the same price as the CPU you listed. I couldn't be happier!

Here are some benchmarks to back this up:

http://www.anandtech...duct/434?vs=288

That compares the CPU you had planned on with the Intel i5 2500K - the closest option to the modern 3550 which is a generation newer (they have the same clock speed and most other specs). Scroll down to the end of the list of benchmarks to see games, and you will see that the Intel matches or beats the AMD every time.

On the RAM, 8GB is perfectly fine with either platform - as is 1600MHz, though memory speed isn't a huge factor in performance (at least not on the Intel side - I think it helps AMD chips more). The motherboard choice comes down more to what other features you want: do you want to run just one video card, or two? How many ports of varying types do you want? Etc.

In my upgrade, I went with the Asus P8H77-M Pro. I don't need multiple video cards, and I have a Micro ATX size chassis - but I wanted something that would be a solid platform, so that in 4-5 years I could relegate this to HTPC duty or other tasks and not be missing out on any features I might want.

[Thorqemada]

Well, i use the Gigabyte GA-990xa-UD3 and i am happy with it.
I had boards from Asrock, Asus, DFI, ECS, Gigabyte, MSI, PC Chips and Gigabyte was allways usefull and reliable.

Look into the Link you may find some helpfull info their about the boards you have in mind in that thread:
http://www.overclock...lub-help-thread

[Vulpesveritas]

If you're looking for gaming, I would recommend stepping down to an FX-6200, and most people would recommend you step up to an intel i5. The FX-8xxx series is great for multitasking, but there are better CPUs for gaming out there. Whether you go AMD or Intel at this price point factors mainly into how important ethics are for you, whether you prefer one company or the other, and whether you are looking for something for long term upgrades.
http://www.amazon.co...39029086&sr=1-1

RAM wise, I recommend the AMD re-branded Patriot RAM;
http://www.amazon.co...39029024&sr=1-1
It's low profile (which helps for upgradability,) goes through two rounds of quality control, and is made in the USA (if the latter matters to you.)

Last of all, I personally recommend Asus and AsRock motherboards. They're both good brands, and tend to give you some more extras compared to Gigabyte.

Dark Fact, on 06 June 2012 - 04:30 PM, said:

Do not go for an AMD-based system unless you're building something low end. It's not a true 8 core, by the way, it's more of a 4 core with some duplicated functionality in each core, making it more efficient at certain types of workloads.

At this price point, your ultimate choice would be the Intel Core i5-3570K. It's actually cheaper than that AMD CPU if you buy it from Microcenter: http://www.microcent...duct_id=0388577

If you do not plan to overclock, you may be able to find the non-K version for a bit cheaper. As far as motherboards go, I went for the ASUS P8Z77-V Pro myself, because it was on sale. Otherwise, I would have gone with the cheaper P8Z77-V. The ASRock Z77 Extreme6 is also considered a pretty solid board, and can be had cheaper. The boards however are more expensive than the ones you were looking at. I believe they have non-SLI supporting boards with less features, that are cheaper, but I've never looked into those.

AMD is not "Low end" any more than Ford is... Honestly, who in their right economical mind who isn't doing things for business pays $1000 for a CPU?... anyhow. The FX-line of chips are full cores in every way but the L2 cache and floating point unit... they're more 90% cores.
In any case, the OP may have reasons to want to go with AMD.

[Dark Fact]

What I meant by AMD being low end is that their CPUs are only worth considering if you are on a small budget. If you're looking for performance and are willing to spend a little more, Intel is the right choice.

Ford is a horrible example, by the way. Even though Ford's latest European-built cars are pretty decent, people who want to be economical about their car purchase are much better off with a Hyundai.

PS: That i5-3570K is only barely more expensive than that low-end AMD chip you linked to. The Intel however slaughters the AMD in performance!

Edited by Dark Fact, 06 June 2012 - 04:42 PM.

[Ereth]

The thing about multiple cores and games is that very few games are multithreaded (aka make use of more than one core). If MWO isnt designed to make use of multiple cores then your extras dont really matter much. Reading this post http://mwomercs.com/...tion-year-2012/ the writer claims that the cryengine supports 64 bit systems and multithreading but its not guranteed that pirahana will design it that way. If your looking to improve your video game experience, a new GPU is what your looking for, since they support higher frame rate, resolution, and special effects.

IMO since MWO is a PC only game and is doubtful to reach consoles there really is no reason for it not to have multithreading and 64 bit support. Its really console games or games designed to be ported to consoles that dont make use of this ability. For example when skyrim came out there was some anger because it only supported like 2g of RAM max, which upset people like me who have 8 and its not being fully utilized. But skyrim was designed to be ported to PS3 and Xbox, so it werent designed to fully utilize a gaming rig with multiple cores and lots of RAM.

But if you are dead set on a new build, which i know is very exciting, you might consider the BRAND NEW intel ivy bridge third gen processors that just came out recently. I think they are about $230. Even better, the prices of sandy bridge processors (2nd gen) should fall to about the price range of the AMD one you posted. I myself used an i5-2500k for the past 2 years and i have no complaints. You cant go wrong with Corsair RAM, i have gskills personally but Corsair has a great reputation for supporting their products. As far as the mobos you posted, the only thing id mention is if you ever plan on doing SLI or Crossfire (dual GPUs) the cheaper one doesnt have the PCI slots for it. The one thats like 10 bucks more has that extra PCI slot for a second card, and your PSU has plenty of power for 2 cards.

I also couldnt help but notice you linked to amazon, id recomend checking out http://www.newegg.com/ i find their search and filtering much better, and their reviewers will be more tech savvy than amazon ones. They also have sick deals every week that are worth checking out.

[Vulpesveritas]

Dark Fact, on 06 June 2012 - 04:40 PM, said:

What I meant by AMD being low end is that their CPUs are only worth considering if you are on a small budget. If you're looking for performance and are willing to spend a little more, Intel is the right choice.

Ford is a horrible example, by the way. Even though Ford's latest European-built cars are pretty decent, people who want to be economical about their car purchase are much better off with a Hyundai.

PS: That i5-3570K is only barely more expensive than that low-end AMD chip you linked to. The Intel however slaughters the AMD in performance!

The FX-8150 is still faster for highly threaded tasks other than photoshop. That aside, there is still ethics and personal preference to be considered, as well as the possible shift of budget from CPU to GPU, in which the GPU is more important. If that extra $70 saves bumps him up from say, a 6870 to a 7850, or a 7870 to a 670, then he would be better off putting the money on the graphics card. Though he hasn't mentioned what kind of GPU he has.

Though he hasn't mentioned anything yet on that end.

And eh, what about that new ford hybrid that gets over 100mpg? lol. Plus, I prefer buying American.

Ereth, on 06 June 2012 - 04:40 PM, said:

The thing about multiple cores and games is that very few games are multithreaded (aka make use of more than one core). If MWO isnt designed to make use of multiple cores then your extras dont really matter much. Reading this post http://mwomercs.com/...tion-year-2012/ the writer claims that the cryengine supports 64 bit systems and multithreading but its not guranteed that pirahana will design it that way. If your looking to improve your video game experience, a new GPU is what your looking for, since they support higher frame rate, resolution, and special effects.

IMO since MWO is a PC only game and is doubtful to reach consoles there really is no reason for it not to have multithreading and 64 bit support. Its really console games or games designed to be ported to consoles that dont make use of this ability. For example when skyrim came out there was some anger because it only supported like 2g of RAM max, which upset people like me who have 8 and its not being fully utilized. But skyrim was designed to be ported to PS3 and Xbox, so it werent designed to fully utilize a gaming rig with multiple cores and lots of RAM.

But if you are dead set on a new build, which i know is very exciting, you might consider the BRAND NEW intel ivy bridge third gen processors that just came out recently. I think they are about $230. Even better, the prices of sandy bridge processors (2nd gen) should fall to about the price range of the AMD one you posted. I myself used an i5-2500k for the past 2 years and i have no complaints. You cant go wrong with Corsair RAM, i have gskills personally but Corsair has a great reputation for supporting their products. As far as the mobos you posted, the only thing id mention is if you ever plan on doing SLI or Crossfire (dual GPUs) the cheaper one doesnt have the PCI slots for it. The one thats like 10 bucks more has that extra PCI slot for a second card, and your PSU has plenty of power for 2 cards.

I also couldnt help but notice you linked to amazon, id recomend checking out http://www.newegg.com/ i find their search and filtering much better, and their reviewers will be more tech savvy than amazon ones. They also have sick deals every week that are worth checking out.

Keep in mind, CryENGINE 3 is made to be able to utilize up to 8 threads and 64 bit execution. And even if not present at launch the Devs may release it in a future patch given the continuous update form of the game.

Edited by Vulpesveritas, 06 June 2012 - 04:47 PM.

[Meldarth Sunphot]

Right I build these systems both Intel and AMD - honestly you're not going to tell the difference......I personally run 8120 at 8150 speed right now as I don't need it any faster.....

http://www.amazon.co...39029940&sr=1-1

This is the board I run and its awesome - but the Gigabyte is a good board also.....

http://www.amazon.co...pd_bxgy_e_img_c

You'll want faster ram than 1600; it really does make a difference.......

You can always drop back to the 8120 - and clock it straight to the 8150 speeds........it will cost not as much and then push it towards other parts in your build...... like better MB

[Bullseye69]

Can you post your current specs for your motheboard manufacture and the number, I had old ga-ma770 -ds3 version 1 motherboard it not suppose to support quad core amd 3 but load up version f8f beta bios and running amd ATHLON PROPUS 945 Chip the 3.1ghz stock and it running like a top.

These 2 motherboards support crossfire and bulldozer and regular phenom 6 and quad core.

Can't tell you about other chip set the 970 I didn't research them when I was doing a build quote for friend.


http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813157267

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813131736

Here is the little brother to the processor your looking at.

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103961

Big Brother
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103960

AMD is coming out with there next line of bulldozer processor in august or before you might just want to put a quad core in it to hold out for the faster bulldozer processors.

This is a six core option.

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819106012

http://www.tigerdire...4262&CatId=4432

This is a quad core option.

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103727


Here a ram kit for 2*4 gb DDR3 Ram modules

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231460

That will work for a asus sabertooth motherboard. It has a 5 limited warranty.

In all honesty you just need a good amd quad or six core cpu until the more energy eff and cooler running amd bulldozer line is released in august.

I went from a AMD dual core 2.4 ghz to a quad core Athlon 2 Propus 3.1 ghz processor and it made all the difference in games though not in beta. Replaced a aging and half working 3870 512mb radeon with HD radeon 7770 1gig card that all I could afford right now and my gaming experience is better.

If you can get a $100 to $140 quad or 6 core then that would be good enough I always buy boxed amd you get manufacture 3 year warranty with there processors.

I usually order from NEWEGG and NCIX since I am in the US.

Good luck if you got any question drop me a message or post inn you thread.

Edited by bullseye69, 06 June 2012 - 05:02 PM.

[Ereth]

Also found this benchmark test for you http://www.hardwares...CPU-Review/1402 which focuses on the 8 core AMD versus the 4 core Intel 2nd gen processors. In the end they said that the 8150 was the superior processor for overclocking if thats your thing, but the intels usually did better in tests.
Some thing i have noticed though, mobos with AMD sockets seem to be cheaper than intel. I dont think you can go wrong either way.

The reason i say this is from your original post i get the feeling that your main concern is number of cores, upgrading from 2 to 8. What im trying to say is that more cores does not equal better performance always, and in my original post i tried to say that more cores does not always equal better gaming performance.

[Brotherchaplain]

Wow thats a lot of responses really fast. I am going to try and answer all the questions asked and touch on all topics presented to me.

Ok, So I consider "Low end" To be what I have now:
OS Version: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate
System RAM: 4095 MB
CPU Name: AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4600+
CPU Speeds: 2400
Physical CPUs: 1
Virtual CPUs: 2
Video Card Description: AMD Radeon HD 6870
VRAM: 1024 MB

So upgrading to about any 8 core processor would be a hell of a step up wouldn't it? I am told any time I post my specs that its basicaly a dinosaur. At this point I feel I NEED a better CPU if I am to keep gaming at a respectable FPS.

My video card should not be an issue.
Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 1 GB GDDR5 DL-DVI-I/SL-DVI-D/HDMI/Dual Mini Display Port PCI-Express Video Card 100314SR
Bought in the last month of 2010. It has run everything swimmingly and the only problems I ever truly have running games a certain ones that I know are pushing the CPU hard. IE: Battlefield 3, Shogun Total war 2, Civilization 5, and similar games. Diablo 3, Starcraft 3, Ruse, Call of duty games, most everything else I can get away with high settings and get smooth gameplay. So I have to assume the bottleneck is the CPU.

As for intel vs amd. I have had both over the 25 years Ive been gaming. Most recently I have been buying a lot of AMD products simply because they have been cheaper and I have never had a single issue with them. I have sold my old CPUs to people and most of them are still running today. So I like Amds dependability at least where I have used them. But I really do not have any preference either way, I just want to get something with good bang for the buck that will play my games well. I need performance FOR my price point.

As to ethics, I honestly do not know enough to choose something either way. I like to buy American when I can, however in this global economy it gets harder and harder with certain companies in the US <and lets be honest government policies> making choices that push more and more businesses overseas. So I buy local produce but with electronics, I rarely look that deeply, I usually go with what has a rock solid warranty and good reviews that I can also fit in my budget.

I do have an identical GPU in my other pc and its components are almost identical throughout, so it would be nice to SLI maybe one day, buts I am never looking for the extra 5-10 % boosts, I just want good smooth gameplay with med to high settings. I don't need my eyes to bleed, I just want to be able to hit my targets without lagging.

My end budget for the 3 components, CPU mobo and RAM needs to be around the 300-400 dollar price range. I would like to get in around 300 but hey, stuffs not cheap.

I would like to know, Why
AMD FX-6200 Processor, 3.8 6 Socket AM3 - FD6200FRGUBOX
would be better than an 8 core for gaming? I just figured more cores would run things faster.
Full disclosure on that, I am just looking for gaming performance, I don't do anything else on this box at the same time. I may burn a disc or two, but nothing else intensive at all.

Thank you all for the assistance and advise so quickly, truly a lot of great minds here and great info.

[Vulpesveritas]

Brotherchaplain, on 06 June 2012 - 05:15 PM, said:

Wow thats a lot of responses really fast. I am going to try and answer all the questions asked and touch on all topics presented to me.

Ok, So I consider "Low end" To be what I have now:
OS Version: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate
System RAM: 4095 MB
CPU Name: AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4600+
CPU Speeds: 2400
Physical CPUs: 1
Virtual CPUs: 2
Video Card Description: AMD Radeon HD 6870
VRAM: 1024 MB

So upgrading to about any 8 core processor would be a hell of a step up wouldn't it? I am told any time I post my specs that its basicaly a dinosaur. At this point I feel I NEED a better CPU if I am to keep gaming at a respectable FPS.

My video card should not be an issue.
Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 1 GB GDDR5 DL-DVI-I/SL-DVI-D/HDMI/Dual Mini Display Port PCI-Express Video Card 100314SR
Bought in the last month of 2010. It has run everything swimmingly and the only problems I ever truly have running games a certain ones that I know are pushing the CPU hard. IE: Battlefield 3, Shogun Total war 2, Civilization 5, and similar games. Diablo 3, Starcraft 3, Ruse, Call of duty games, most everything else I can get away with high settings and get smooth gameplay. So I have to assume the bottleneck is the CPU.

As for intel vs amd. I have had both over the 25 years Ive been gaming. Most recently I have been buying a lot of AMD products simply because they have been cheaper and I have never had a single issue with them. I have sold my old CPUs to people and most of them are still running today. So I like Amds dependability at least where I have used them. But I really do not have any preference either way, I just want to get something with good bang for the buck that will play my games well. I need performance FOR my price point.

As to ethics, I honestly do not know enough to choose something either way. I like to buy American when I can, however in this global economy it gets harder and harder with certain companies in the US <and lets be honest government policies> making choices that push more and more businesses overseas. So I buy local produce but with electronics, I rarely look that deeply, I usually go with what has a rock solid warranty and good reviews that I can also fit in my budget.

I do have an identical GPU in my other pc and its components are almost identical throughout, so it would be nice to SLI maybe one day, buts I am never looking for the extra 5-10 % boosts, I just want good smooth gameplay with med to high settings. I don't need my eyes to bleed, I just want to be able to hit my targets without lagging.

My end budget for the 3 components, CPU mobo and RAM needs to be around the 300-400 dollar price range. I would like to get in around 300 but hey, stuffs not cheap.

I would like to know, Why
AMD FX-6200 Processor, 3.8 6 Socket AM3 - FD6200FRGUBOX
would be better than an 8 core for gaming? I just figured more cores would run things faster.
Full disclosure on that, I am just looking for gaming performance, I don't do anything else on this box at the same time. I may burn a disc or two, but nothing else intensive at all.

Thank you all for the assistance and advise so quickly, truly a lot of great minds here and great info.

Games right now for the most part are not being coded for more than 4 cores. A hexacore gives you two cores left over to handle non-gaming tasks. However, until games become more heavily threaded, Intel does have a performance advantage at the $200 price point. Ethics wise I'll send you a PM should you be interested.

[Brotherchaplain]

Ok, some more specs on my current rig from CPU-Z

Mainboard is Asustek M2N Rev 1.xx
Nvidia MCP61 Rev A2
LPCIO ITE IT8716
Bios American Megatrends Inc
Ver 0902

Ram DDR2 Dual Chan 4096 bytes
400 mhz Frq
CAS CL 6.0 clocks

CPU AMD athlon 64 x2 4600+ Windosr Brand Id 4
Tech 90 Nm
1.344 V
L1 cache 2x 64 kb
L2 2x512kb

Sorry if this isnt very tech savy, pulling this from the readout.

I do not OC, Dont have the tech savy to fiddle with it, I just prefer to get something that starts fast enough to go for a good while then upgrade when needs be.

Thanks again all, Truly very helpful.

[Shivus]

Overclocking is really easy and requires no more tech savyness than installing a new gpu does. In many cases it just requires installing a good aftermarket HSF. The Coolermaster hyper212 evo for $30 is just fine unless you're trying to hit 4.8ghz on an ivybridge.

When I built my system I watched a youtube video on overclocking my E8500. 2 minutes later it was running at 3.8ghz, limited by 800 mhz ram. By the next day I had the voltage locked down to run stable in prime and for gaming. It's been that way for 4 years.

The processor is really a question if your budget is the limiting factor. If it is, then go with the FX 6200 to save some money and bump up your GPU. If it's not, then there's no reason to not go with the i5 2500k or 3570k. Any will be fine at stock speeds for gaming. It just comes down to if you want the boost.

The 6870 is also a good card still, so you shouldn't need to upgrade it yet. You could even consider picking up a second for crossfire which will last your system for quite a while. But a CPU upgrade is certainly in order.

Edited by Shivus, 06 June 2012 - 05:54 PM.

[Brotherchaplain]

When you say bump your gpu, I have a 6870 already that isnt more than 18 months old and was 230$ and just released when I bought it. It seems to run very well, is this not a good enough card already? But yes, Cost is a factor.

Why would the FX 6200 be better than the 8 core I was looking at? Its not that I don't believe, Just don't understand how that works.

As to overclocking, Would I get any real useful benefit for trying to OC what I have. I have a great cooler on it already just because I like to make sure my cpu is comfortable, an Orb system of some type, sticks out 6 inches from the cpu in a large fin covered circle.

Thanks again.

[Vulpesveritas]

Brotherchaplain, on 06 June 2012 - 05:52 PM, said:

When you say bump your gpu, I have a 6870 already that isnt more than 18 months old and was 230$ and just released when I bought it. It seems to run very well, is this not a good enough card already? But yes, Cost is a factor.

Why would the FX 6200 be better than the 8 core I was looking at? Its not that I don't believe, Just don't understand how that works.

As to overclocking, Would I get any real useful benefit for trying to OC what I have. I have a great cooler on it already just because I like to make sure my cpu is comfortable, an Orb system of some type, sticks out 6 inches from the cpu in a large fin covered circle.

Thanks again.

Games are coded to use a certain number of cores, at this time, most games are either dual or quad threaded. As such there is no performance gains in games beyond the four cores, beyond what is taken off the load that is being used by background programs and the OS, as such the hexacore. Given it also has a 200mhz advantage stock and a higher turbo speed, it would be somewhat faster in any games you would play should you not overclock.

And yes, given say a 10-20% overclock you would gain anywhere from 2 to 10 frames per second in most games, although you would gain substantially more in older games or playing at excessively lower resolutions.

[Meldarth Sunphot]

Brotherchaplain, on 06 June 2012 - 05:24 PM, said:

Ok, some more specs on my current rig from CPU-Z

Mainboard is Asustek M2N Rev 1.xx
Nvidia MCP61 Rev A2
LPCIO ITE IT8716
Bios American Megatrends Inc
Ver 0902

Ram DDR2 Dual Chan 4096 bytes
400 mhz Frq
CAS CL 6.0 clocks

CPU AMD athlon 64 x2 4600+ Windosr Brand Id 4
Tech 90 Nm
1.344 V
L1 cache 2x 64 kb
L2 2x512kb

Sorry if this isnt very tech savy, pulling this from the readout.

I do not OC, Dont have the tech savy to fiddle with it, I just prefer to get something that starts fast enough to go for a good while then upgrade when needs be.

Thanks again all, Truly very helpful.

I upgraded almost exactly the same system - the 8120 is massive upgrade; 6100 will also..........depends on what you want to do.......I can pm you also if you want......

[Brotherchaplain]

So this
http://www.amazon.co...=I1E2Q3OS7E6DM4

FX 6200 would work with this:

http://www.amazon.co...Y/ref=de_a_smtd

Asus Mobo with this:

http://www.amazon.co..._hu-rd_add_1_dp

Amd Ram very well?

Or should I go for the higher speed ram as someone suggested? Or a different mobo with that Processor?
That CPU seems really nice, 6 cores is great, its gotta be faster than what I have now, and should really decrease stutter in a few certain games.

Thanks again. You all are great.

[Vulpesveritas]

Nah, you won't see any performance increase in RAM faster than DDR3-1600mhz. Beyond that looks good, although I would recommend the AsRock Extreme4 motherboard, but that's more personal preference.