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#41 Zarlaren

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 07:23 PM

I understand the Lrms is for long range but what I don't get is how are they able to shoot at a wall and the lrms magicly hit there target everytime through walls,rocks,building and what not? Just point and shoot and they magicly kill your target. I would like to see some realism to it where you have to be in line of sight to fire them off.

Edited by Zarla, 23 August 2013 - 07:24 PM.


#42 James The Fox Dixon

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 07:25 PM

View PostZarla, on 23 August 2013 - 07:23 PM, said:

I understand the Lrms is for long range but what I don't get is how are they able to shoot at a wall and the lrms magicly hit there target everytime through walls,rocks,building and what not just point and shoot and they magicly kill your target. I would like to see some realism to it where you have to be in line of sight to fire them off.


That could either be HSR or a bug. Have you filed a bug report with support@mwomercs.com with the date and time of your match?

#43 nitra

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 07:28 PM

one of the unexpected things 12 v 12 has created is a protective barrier for gimped lrm boats

these are not really exploits but they are down right annoying especially when your the silly sod being hammered by over 300 missiles from 2 or 3 different points on the map. ( i know i have been that sod quite a few times)

However they dont appear to be game changers sure they hammer the enemy but far to often i see the enemy team overcome the fire support and end up winning the match .


they only thing i wish for is the return of fast cavalry mechs (removal of engine limitations) so we can get behind those enemy lines and take out those boats .

#44 Zarlaren

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 07:29 PM

View PostJames The Fox Dixon, on 23 August 2013 - 07:25 PM, said:


That could either be HSR or a bug. Have you filed a bug report with support@mwomercs.com with the date and time of your match?


I'm not so sure if it is bug or intented or people found a exploit to use at the moment.

#45 Zarlaren

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 07:34 PM

View PostJames The Fox Dixon, on 23 August 2013 - 07:25 PM, said:


That could either be HSR or a bug. Have you filed a bug report with support@mwomercs.com with the date and time of your match?


Not so sure at the moment there is a bug or what.

And lagging on the forums it seems.

Edited by Zarla, 23 August 2013 - 07:35 PM.


#46 James The Fox Dixon

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 07:35 PM

View PostZarla, on 23 August 2013 - 07:29 PM, said:


I'm not so sure if it is bug or intented or people found a exploit to use at the moment.


I know that when I fire and a target is behind terrain the missiles hit the terrain. My missiles also don't go through terrain before they've armed either.

#47 Zarlaren

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 07:38 PM

View PostJames The Fox Dixon, on 23 August 2013 - 07:35 PM, said:


I know that when I fire and a target is behind terrain the missiles hit the terrain. My missiles also don't go through terrain before they've armed either.


I was behind the metal plate in the middle of the map in the desert the enemy lrms went right though it. I was being bombarded with lrms undercover to say.

Edited by Zarla, 23 August 2013 - 07:39 PM.


#48 James The Fox Dixon

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 07:42 PM

View PostZarla, on 23 August 2013 - 07:38 PM, said:


I was behind the metal plate in the middle of the map in the desert the enemy lrms went right though it. I was being bombarded with lrms undercover to say.


Next time it happens take a screenshot and email support@mwomercs.com with the date and time of your match to see if it's a bug.

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 09:07 PM

View PostRenthrak, on 23 May 2013 - 01:17 PM, said:


They always come back with "What's wrong with doing what it takes to win?" or some {Scrap} like that. What it comes down to is, how far are you willing to go? If there was a button that made your target overheat instantly, would you use it? How about an insta-kill command? What about a bug that makes a player's PC burn out if you bump into their 'Mech just right? How much grief is it OK to inflict on everyone else playing a game to get your bit of fun? It's exactly the same thing, only differing in severity.


Yes, because if enough people abuse it, it may be removed/fixed.

#50 Novakaine

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 09:47 PM

Great Jebus!
Don't be a target.
Learn to Play.
Nuff said.

#51 Wolfways

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 10:12 PM

View PostZarla, on 23 August 2013 - 07:38 PM, said:


I was behind the metal plate in the middle of the map in the desert the enemy lrms went right though it. I was being bombarded with lrms undercover to say.

Do you mean the wreckage next to Theta on Tourmaline Desert?
LRM's can go through some of the gaps (which you can also fire through with other weapons) and that plate is only high enough to protect you if you're in pressed right up against it, and not in a tall mech like an Atlas.

#52 Karenai

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 10:29 PM

View PostMasterErrant, on 23 May 2013 - 11:01 AM, said:

the problem with the game is not broken weapons it's not the broken heat system. it's not the ludicrous convergence system that allow precision targeting beyoine the effective range of the weapons in the game...though these are issues.

It is players who rush to exploit every flaw, every and error the Devs make.
it's the ****** who packs his mech full of LRMs when they are messed up. it's the **** who runs his fast mech around trying to pick of components to improve his stats while his team loses.

LRM tubes got fixed. You are one patch too late.

LRM boats were always part of the game. Some people will always pack their mech full with them, even while they suck.

Have never seen stat padding beyond the first two tournaments.


Annother "and that is what is wrong with america" thread.

#53 XANi

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 02:23 AM

OP should totally report to PGI all owners of CPT-A1, they are all horrible ppl who exploit game...

#54 Pezzer

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 08:11 AM

I used to fight exploit use as well.
I was playing a little game called MW2 and after fighting ******** and exploiters for years, I realized it was all a waste of time. Exploiters are there for a reason. They are the one type of ********* that does something positive in this world.
They make a mistake so obvious that someone eventually fixes it. ********* exploiters helped combat piracy, crime, and game balance for years, and while I was going on my White Knight 34-7 rampages on MW2, I realized that, sure, I was the better man for not using noob tubes. Sure, I was the better man for not using OMA.
But was I making a difference? No. And that was the day that some of my morality died and I gave up fighting. I just decided to play the game my way, destroy people, and then let them play thier way until noob tubers joined the game. That was when I took out my counter-noob tube class.

So, moral of the story: Don't fight exploiters, fight exploits. Whine about it on the forums until something gets done. Play the game your way, the righteous-yet-more-difficult way, get better at the game than any of those exploiters ever wish they could, and when that (enter exploit here) patch reigns down from the heavens, smiting all PPC/noob tube-worshippers with its' righteous fury, sit there during the aftermath and laugh. Laugh at all those noobs as you tear them apart with your more legitimate weapons, laugh and be merry while you destroy all of those nay-sayers and finally realize that good does sometimes prevail over evil.

As long as it gets patched.

#55 Sephlock

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 08:14 AM

Not to sound like the "she shouldn't have worn that revealing dress" crowd, but:

Maybe if these mistakes didn't last for months on end :P?

In a similar vein, maybe if leveling up a light wasn't pure agony, both for the enemies that have randomly can't hit them, and for the pilots, who need to play a kajillion games to make any reasonable amount of progress/day.

#56 Zypher

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 11:40 AM

View PostPezzer, on 24 August 2013 - 08:11 AM, said:

I used to fight exploit use as well.
I was playing a little game called MW2 and after fighting ******** and exploiters for years, I realized it was all a waste of time. Exploiters are there for a reason. They are the one type of ********* that does something positive in this world.
They make a mistake so obvious that someone eventually fixes it. ********* exploiters helped combat piracy, crime, and game balance for years, and while I was going on my White Knight 34-7 rampages on MW2, I realized that, sure, I was the better man for not using noob tubes. Sure, I was the better man for not using OMA.
But was I making a difference? No. And that was the day that some of my morality died and I gave up fighting. I just decided to play the game my way, destroy people, and then let them play thier way until noob tubers joined the game. That was when I took out my counter-noob tube class.

So, moral of the story: Don't fight exploiters, fight exploits. Whine about it on the forums until something gets done. Play the game your way, the righteous-yet-more-difficult way, get better at the game than any of those exploiters ever wish they could, and when that (enter exploit here) patch reigns down from the heavens, smiting all PPC/noob tube-worshippers with its' righteous fury, sit there during the aftermath and laugh. Laugh at all those noobs as you tear them apart with your more legitimate weapons, laugh and be merry while you destroy all of those nay-sayers and finally realize that good does sometimes prevail over evil.

As long as it gets patched.


There is a difference pointing out an exploit over using it for personal gain.

Edited by Zypher, 24 August 2013 - 11:40 AM.


#57 Johnny Z

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 11:42 AM

View PostJestun, on 23 May 2013 - 11:11 AM, said:

Damn those beta testers who test the things that have been changed!

What are they thinking?!


I agree, blame the beta testers. :P


Edit: Added smiley

Edited by Johnny Z, 24 August 2013 - 11:44 AM.


#58 Appogee

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 11:46 AM

Just before I came to this thread I put 3xLRM10s on a Victor 9S because I am trying to find a build that 'works' for me on that variant.

Am I exploiting? Honest question. I am not familiar with the LRM bug so I don't know if I'm exploiting it or not.

#59 Pezzer

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 01:28 PM

View PostZypher, on 24 August 2013 - 11:40 AM, said:


There is a difference pointing out an exploit over using it for personal gain.

This is my point: *
This is your head:




O
The point I was trying to make went WAYYY over your head.

Edited by Pezzer, 24 August 2013 - 01:29 PM.


#60 Gunivar

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 08:18 PM

I don't think the OP was talking trash about the simple act of being dedicated to LRMs as much as players going out of their way to use them more than normal just to exploit a bug or imbalance.
And the process occurs with any FOTM weapon/build.





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