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If Pulse Lasers All Had Their Weight Reduced To Equal Normal Lasers, Would You Replace All Your Normal Lasers?


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Poll: Pulse lasers vs regular (117 member(s) have cast votes)

If pulse lasers all had their weight reduced to equal normal lasers, would you replace all your normal lasers?

  1. Yes in every single one of my builds (20 votes [17.24%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.24%

  2. I'd use them in some builds, but not others (77 votes [66.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 66.38%

  3. No, I'd still barely use any pulse lasers (14 votes [12.07%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.07%

  4. I already use mostly pulse lasers (5 votes [4.31%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.31%

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#21 FupDup

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 06:12 PM

^^ Ya'll need to kiss and make up now.

#22 jeffsw6

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 06:12 PM

I guess I'll post these charts again:
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#23 MuKen

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 06:12 PM

View PostSoy, on 23 May 2013 - 06:11 PM, said:

******** is this SemanticsWars?

Your idea is ******* dumb.

That's my opinion.

I appreciate your spirit and concern and passion for the game, but this is a dumb ******* idea.


IT'S NOT AN IDEA. This thread is not to recommend lowering weight. It is only to point out that even if we did, they still wouldn't be great, so clearly they are not balanced now. You are being incredibly dense on this. Either it is because you just are dense, or you have just gotten way too personally involved with me.

#24 Soy

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 06:15 PM

I'm not personally involved at all. I've stated like 5 or 6 times now, changing the weight of the pulse lasers so you enjoy using them better or find them more balanced is ******* dumb.

If anything, you're the one that's taken it personally.

I can't put it any other way, changing the weight of the weapon down to standard laser weight is ******* dumb.

It's ******* dumb.

That's my opinion. On your idea or suggestion or whatever. It's ******* dumb.

Don't take it personal. I've said several times now in this thread.

#25 Deathlike

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 06:16 PM

View Postjeffsw6, on 23 May 2013 - 06:12 PM, said:

I guess I'll post these charts again:
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If I'm reading the altered scale correctly... I thought damage dropping was linear, not exponential decay. LPL is spot on.. the rest is not.

Edited by Deathlike, 23 May 2013 - 06:16 PM.


#26 MuKen

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 06:16 PM

View PostSoy, on 23 May 2013 - 06:15 PM, said:

I'm not personally involved at all. I've stated like 5 or 6 times now, changing the weight of the pulse lasers so you enjoy using them better or find them more balanced is ******* dumb.


And I've said 5 or 6 times now I don't want them to change weight of pulse lasers. I didn't say it any sort of indirect way, so I can't fathom why it's so hard for you to understand that. If you're not personally involved, then you are in fact, just dense.

I'll say it again: I am not suggesting or proposing an idea that they should have their weight lowered.

This is not semantics, I am not saying what you are saying I am saying. Now either improve reading comprehension or just leave.

Edited by MuKen, 23 May 2013 - 06:17 PM.


#27 Soy

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 06:22 PM

It's a dumb ******* question.

Yeah, lets just **** all over the game.

WOULD YOU PLAY THIS OR THAT IN A GAME THAT JUST GOT **** ON?

Dumb ******* question.

Cuz I wouldn't even play if the game was designed that horribly.

Obvs is obvs.

#28 MuKen

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 06:23 PM

View PostSoy, on 23 May 2013 - 06:22 PM, said:

It's a dumb ******* question.

Yeah, lets just **** all over the game.

WOULD YOU PLAY THIS OR THAT IN A GAME THAT JUST GOT **** ON?

Dumb ******* question.

Cuz I wouldn't even play if the game was designed that horribly.

Obvs is obvs.


No, you're not personally involved at all.

#29 Soy

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 06:25 PM

I'm personally emotionally invested in having fun with a decent game, yes. Being concerned with some random dude on forum posting dumb **** that I've never seen in game or on forum before I dunno, today? No, not really. You'd have to be emotionall unstable as **** for that to actually happen on any level.

Edited by Soy, 23 May 2013 - 06:26 PM.


#30 MuKen

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 06:26 PM

View PostSoy, on 23 May 2013 - 06:25 PM, said:

You'd have to be emotionall unstable as **** for that to actually happen on any level.



Yes, you would have to be.

Edited by MuKen, 23 May 2013 - 06:27 PM.


#31 FupDup

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 06:32 PM

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#32 MuKen

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 06:33 PM

Don't worry, I'm sure he'll find me in the next thread I post in. We can kiss and have some angry sex then.

Edited by MuKen, 23 May 2013 - 06:33 PM.


#33 subgenius

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 06:56 PM

View PostSoy, on 23 May 2013 - 06:25 PM, said:

I'm personally emotionally invested in having fun with a decent game, yes. Being concerned with some random dude on forum posting dumb **** that I've never seen in game or on forum before I dunno, today? No, not really. You'd have to be emotionall unstable as **** for that to actually happen on any level.


Yet a scene is still being made...Ah internet, why must you bring out the lamest in all of us? Call it a thought experiment if it makes you feel better, it's not like this is a signed letter of proposal to PGI's development team.

Anyway, it really does feel like the extra weight is an added kick in the gut that the LPL in particular doesn't need. I had some fun running around with 4 on an Atlas with a 350 engine, but with the extra weight I wasn't really able to add anything else without making it too hot to brawl (which is basically all the range makes it good for). Speedy damage output was nice, but I can run about the same heat levels with 4LL and a gauss... so clearly one of these things is better than the other.

#34 Soy

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 07:05 PM

All I did was express my opinion. I had to reiterate and defend my opinion of "dumb" about ten times now.

**** off.

#35 mack sabbath

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 07:09 PM

Maybe if I found that one solid build where I could use two regular larges and support the heat to replace two mediums for large pulses to swat lights, I'd go for it.

Otherwise, I doubt they'd ever suit my needs on most mech builds I see in play.

EDIT for typos....I always edit posts for typos, I'm old and I miss crap! :P

Edited by Die Primate Die, 23 May 2013 - 07:11 PM.


#36 jeffsw6

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 08:26 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 23 May 2013 - 06:16 PM, said:


If I'm reading the altered scale correctly... I thought damage dropping was linear, not exponential decay. LPL is spot on.. the rest is not.

Oops, there may be an error in my formula. I will check it and update the charts.

#37 El Bandito

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 08:32 PM

View PostSoy, on 23 May 2013 - 06:11 PM, said:

******** is this SemanticsWars? Your idea is ******* dumb. That's my opinion. I appreciate your spirit and concern and passion for the game, but this is a dumb ******* idea.


Get the **** out of this thread if you have nothing productive to add and just **** talking.

Personally I agree with lowering Pulse Laser weight. It is much better solution than buffing other aspects of it. I will use it on only some of my mechs even then.

Edited by El Bandito, 23 May 2013 - 08:34 PM.


#38 Soy

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 08:40 PM

So in other words threads, on internet forums should be nothing but people supporting random ideas, k.

#39 Solomon Ward

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 10:00 PM

Achievement unlocked.

Using dumb 1000 times in the forum.

#40 Deathlike

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 10:34 PM

View Postjeffsw6, on 23 May 2013 - 08:26 PM, said:

Oops, there may be an error in my formula. I will check it and update the charts.


Don't pull a PGI bro... you know, this newfangled thing called arithmetic.





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