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#1 RF Greywolf

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 10:15 AM

Hello all!

I started playing this game yesterday and have really enjoyed it, besides the disconnects. I just wanted to take this time and say hi to the community and ask for whatever help anyone can offer. I haven't played a MW title since MW3 and was never a really awesome player, but loved the game and genre. I am also a HUGE player of the tabletop, which is where most of my ideas on builds come from. ATM I am running a Centurion and my style plays more towards mediums and heavies, even though I usually like to get my mechs moving a little faster than what they usually do. :( I tend to use unorthadox builds and tactics, most of which gets me in trouble with other players telling me I'm stupid. I die alot but usually rack up 2-3 assits every game. I am eager to learn the techiques used in this variant of the game and would love to have a group to drop with. I have Teamspeak and Skype, play in the evenings Eastern time and can follow orders well.

Only warning is that I am not a hardcore player, I play for fun and enjoyment.

Cheers,
RF Greywolf

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 10:21 AM

Truly epic since not 5 mins ago we were telling another player the answers to what your asking. But there is one best answer... See that guide at the very top of this very section. Download and read it. That is all :(

#3 JC Daxion

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 10:56 AM

Welcome to the game/forums.. I was recently in your shoes.. I made a few posts, asked a few questions.. and got tons of info.. from the very helpful people here


i asked a ton of odd questions in this thread.. Lots of hidden info. How to spend money, what to buy, how the store works.. ext.... it is a quick read

http://mwomercs.com/...-few-questions/

After i got going.. i really needed piloting advice,, this is what i got.. spoiler alert.. tons of good info....

http://mwomercs.com/...ng-tips-needed/


After having many issues with light mechs.. i made this post.. it helped a lot, added to turning off AA in my video options, i can now kill these buggers.... Me vrs 2.. well that is a whole other story we Will not talk about...

http://mwomercs.com/...ch-destruction/


In case you missed it, another guy just joined and made another thread similar.. lots of good info.. he is interested in piloting lights.. a jenner specifically


http://mwomercs.com/...yet-total-noob/


You are asking about medium mechs,, I just made this thread asking a ton of questions about them. someone might get bored and have some interesting answers, check back in a few days..

http://mwomercs.com/...ut-some-chasis/





The best advice i can give you now though, is when you die, watch the other players.. check out load outs, and watch how they use them.. helped me a lot..

Edited by JC Daxion, 23 May 2013 - 10:59 AM.


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Posted 23 May 2013 - 11:00 AM

View PostJC Daxion, on 23 May 2013 - 10:56 AM, said:

Welcome to the game/forums.. I was recently in your shoes.. I made a few posts, asked a few questions.. and got tons of info.. from the very helpful people here


i asked a ton of odd questions in this thread.. Lots of hidden info. How to spend money, what to buy, how the store works.. ext.... it is a quick read

http://mwomercs.com/...-few-questions/

After i got going.. i really needed piloting advice,, this is what i got.. spoiler alert.. tons of good info....

http://mwomercs.com/...ng-tips-needed/


After having many issues with light mechs.. i made this post.. it helped a lot, added to turning off AA in my video options, i can now kill these buggers.... Me vrs 2.. well that is a whole other story we Will not talk about...

http://mwomercs.com/...ch-destruction/


In case you missed it, another guy just joined and made another thread similar.. lots of good info.. he is interested in piloting lights.. a jenner specifically


http://mwomercs.com/...yet-total-noob/


You are asking about medium mechs,, I just made this thread asking a ton of questions about them. someone might get bored and have some interesting answers, check back in a few days..

http://mwomercs.com/...ut-some-chasis/





The best advice i can give you now though, is when you die, watch the other players.. check out load outs, and watch how they use them.. helped me a lot..


LOL why yes this is the other New Guy of whom I spoke. Read his links... we went and answered much of what you are about to ask :( and read that guide.

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 06:45 PM

View PostRF Greywolf, on 23 May 2013 - 10:15 AM, said:

Cheers,
RF Greywolf


First off, welcome. Second, many of the tricks from previous mechwarrior games -- especially MW 3 -- will work here. Water accelerates mech cooling so long as you can submerge the body parts which have your heatsinks.

The Centurion is one of the more impressive medium mechs. It brought one of our members to the 4th place position with only 7 hours of play in the first MWO competition, which took "all" matches you played and tallied the score instead of the top 10 as they do now. Me, him, and another player took trial Centurions -- specifically the CN9-D (the easiest one there is to kill due to the XL engine) and literally mopped the floor in several matches. The video with that player's advice is here.



The given advice works with all Centurions.

Remember that your left arm sports a shield. While it is no stronger than your cannon arm, you can twist to throw that in front of you to absorb cannon shells.

If you need a hand, let us know. I react quickly to quotes and likes.

In the meantime, check out this thread for some awesome third person screenshots of Centurions being awesome. (I'm piloting them.)
http://mwomercs.com/...ost__p__2326540

Good news is if you like Centurions, you'll also like Dragons which control mostly the same way. But go through 3 Centurions first and keep your favorite, to get the most out of them.

Edited by Koniving, 24 May 2013 - 08:00 PM.


#6 LapsedPacifist79

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 07:11 PM

My major problem as a n00b (well, an utter n00b then...) was not checking the forums. So you're already ahead of the game mate.

As for people telling you you're stupid in chat... Don't worry man, the only people you should listen to are the guys giving constuctive advice. Stick close to your team, focus fire and you won't go far wrong. The people talking you down are dead and will blame you. Not like they will blame themselves is it? T0sserz. Bear that in mind young padewan.

Edit: Listen to Koniving. He knows his shizz. And Helmstif (among many others) do a nice line in mech guides.

*waves a pocket-watch back and forth*

"buy a hunchie, buy a hunchie"

Edited by LapsedPacifist79, 25 May 2013 - 02:18 AM.


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Posted 25 May 2013 - 01:07 AM

View PostRF Greywolf, on 23 May 2013 - 10:15 AM, said:

I just wanted to take this time and say hi//ATM I am running a Centurion and my style plays more towards mediums and heavies, even though I usually like to get my mechs moving a little faster than what they usually do//I tend to use unorthadox builds and tactics, most of which gets me in trouble with other players telling me I'm stupid//I have Teamspeak//and can follow orders well.//Only warning is that I am not a hardcore player, I play for fun and enjoyment.//


welcome, dude. sounds like you're off to a good start with a good attitude/approach to the game. just use that cadet bonus wisely to get ya off the ground. forums are a good place to start. *too lazy to make links to helpful threads* you can learn a lot by watching konivings videos or just reading his posts. and also koreanease made good vids on tactics and mechs and weapons and stuff. (although he's on strike last i heard) :D

eff the naysayers when it comes to your builds. the only way you discover is by experimenting so go hog wild and enjoy. TS does make the game so much more fun. much laughter ensues. be wary, there is still uncertainty in the weapon market and things are always changing so don't get too freaked out by LRM's or ERPPC's or ECM or whatever. that's why they must continue to call this "beta" i suppose, because nothing is set in stone when it comes to weapons, yet... if ever. that constant struggle for "balance" that all games face, really.

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Posted 25 May 2013 - 02:26 AM

Hi and welcome to the game :D... as Bopop said watch Koreaneases vids. take care

#9 RF Greywolf

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Posted 25 May 2013 - 07:10 AM

Thanks all for the vids/links and all the advice. I am adding a link to my Cent build, The Spartan. I have had decent success with this build now that I am getting used to the controls. I use it to support the scouts and flank the enemy team. I know most people have told me NOT to use the Centurion-AL and never throw a XL engine in one, but I do like how the mech runs. It's damage output is not great but it has good range and "harrassment" options. I have a tendancy to spread my fire out amongst the enemy team, which is probably why I don't get many kills and a decent amount of assists. Once again, any advice is helpful and I'm going to try to FRAPS and post some of my games so you can see my technique.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...d9da5cd17b89984

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Posted 25 May 2013 - 07:20 AM

The reason you shouldn't put an XL engine in that mech is because you can "Zombie". Becuase you have weapons in the center torso you can get nearly all of your mech blown away and still be dealing damage. Plus, the Cent has a slim profile making it harder to hit the center torso. But the XL engine puts some components in the side torsoes so you will die if you lose either one of them.

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Posted 25 May 2013 - 07:20 AM

I know this sounds stupid but... put ammo in your legs or head. In god only knows how many matches now I can count the number of times I've been legged in a medium on two fingers. Ditto being headshot. Besides being headshot is basically either a fluke that doesn't penetrate armor or instadeath. Either way safest place for ammo is in the head.

EDIT: You might be thinking about CASE at some point. Forget it! Head, Legs, CT... these are the only reasonable places for ammo to be.

Side Note: I was just outside drinking some coffee and thinking about how stupid this happens to be. I imagined the following scene.

*Mechwarrior and Crew Chief standing next to a ton of HE and Fuel*
*Boxes of ammo liberally sprinkled with Red warning signs and Skull and Crossbones*

Crew Chief: OK so the techs have finished all those modifications you asked us to do.
Mechwarrior: Excellent! I'm ready to go fight!
Crew Chief: Ummm... on the Change Control request it said you wanted us to put this *waves hand at the ton of ammo* ummmm in the Head? That can't be right can it?
Mechwarrior: Definitely, put that ton of high explosives right under my seat! I want it all right under my nuts!
Crew Chief: Seriously?!?
Mechwarrior: *enraged* Absolutely! Look I'm the Mechwarrior and your the Crew Chief! Stop questioning orders and place that ton of high explosives directly under my nuts! It is the safest place for it!

Edited by scJazz, 25 May 2013 - 08:02 AM.


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Posted 25 May 2013 - 07:47 AM

View PostRF Greywolf, on 25 May 2013 - 07:10 AM, said:

Thanks all for the vids/links and all the advice. I am adding a link to my Cent build, The Spartan. I have had decent success with this build now that I am getting used to the controls. I use it to support the scouts and flank the enemy team. I know most people have told me NOT to use the Centurion-AL and never throw a XL engine in one, but I do like how the mech runs. It's damage output is not great but it has good range and "harrassment" options. I have a tendancy to spread my fire out amongst the enemy team, which is probably why I don't get many kills and a decent amount of assists. Once again, any advice is helpful and I'm going to try to FRAPS and post some of my games so you can see my technique.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...d9da5cd17b89984

RFGreywolf


Ok, first things first - do not ever put ammo into side torsos when you run XL engine, it's not conductive to your continued survival (the only exception is gauss ammo, as it doesn't explode). In general, it's better not to put explosive ammo into side torsos even with a standard engine.
Second, you might want to re-evaluate use of ER large lasers - they run way too hot. I'd either switch to regular LLs, or try to fit PPC/ERPPC in there.
Third, XL engine in a Cent is usually not a good idea - they have large side torsos and become very vulnerable with XL installed. The only possible exception is Cent D, because it can mount a large XL, so you can make it go very fast if you want to.

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Posted 25 May 2013 - 09:38 AM

View PostRF Greywolf, on 25 May 2013 - 07:10 AM, said:

Thanks all for the vids/links and all the advice. I am adding a link to my Cent build, The Spartan. I have had decent success with this build now that I am getting used to the controls. I use it to support the scouts and flank the enemy team. I know most people have told me NOT to use the Centurion-AL and never throw a XL engine in one, but I do like how the mech runs. It's damage output is not great but it has good range and "harrassment" options. I have a tendancy to spread my fire out amongst the enemy team, which is probably why I don't get many kills and a decent amount of assists. Once again, any advice is helpful and I'm going to try to FRAPS and post some of my games so you can see my technique.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...d9da5cd17b89984

RFGreywolf


Actually that's not far off from what the Centurion is designed for in lore. Though it's actually meant to escort the Trebuchets. Both Trebs and Centurions provide great support to lighter mechs.

I'm going to teach you about what it means to "pad" your ammo to make it safe.

First: There is a huge risk in putting ammo within the side torsos without proper padding. This is a concept that most people don't really look into.

Why pad? What does it do?


Every weapon has a chance of causing Critical Component Damage. Some, like machine guns and LB-10s, are exceptionally awesome at doing this. Others, like lasers, really suck at the task. Every time you take a hit after you lose your armor, there's a chance the weapon will deal damage to internal components. This excludes actuators at the moment.^1 With your build, there's only one weapon and one ton of ammo in the left torso. Any shot that hits has a 2 in 3 chance of damaging your weapon and a 1 in 3 chance of damaging your ammo. Basically that means you've got a 1 in 3 chance of being blown up by every shot going to your left torso. The chances are better for the right because of the double heatsink.

^1Actuators and such are disabled because in closed beta people cried "bug!" every time their aim got thrown off due to arm actuator damage or jerking to one side without intentionally turning due to leg actuator damage. Those with gyro damage experienced incredible ease of being knocked over just from weapons fire. There wasn't a Betty to tell them what was happening. Finally PGI just did some patch and it was all gone.

What is padding? To pad is to create additional things that the random chance crit damage can hurt instead of your ammunition. This can be any component such as heatsinks, Gauss Ammo (it's just chunks of metal), additional ammo, weapons, etc.


Checked out your build.
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...8304cccf93bb580

I squeezed in an extra ton of LRM ammo and then "padded" your ammo safely in the left side torso for the sake of showing you the concept of padding your crits.
Notice how there are now 8 slots consumed in your left torso, and these 8 slots lead to five different critical components? The less important ones -- the heatsink and the LRM-10 -- will take the brunt of any damage that comes in. Mostly the heatsink. This protects your ammo and reduces their likelihood of detonation. In this scenario, 5 out of 8 times you'll lose that side torso and your life before your ammo explodes. There's a 3 in 8 chance of ammo explosion and that's with an extra ton of LRM ammo!

To pad them even better trade that extra ton of LRM ammo for an extra DHS in that same side torso to reduce the chances of ammo explosion to 1 in 9 as shown here. http://mwo.smurfy-ne...864c5badd34353c
This assumes the AMS ammo is moved to the head.

There's only one issue with combining a fast mech with ammo in the legs. The most you can fit into a leg is two slots of ammo. Know what that means? Every shot that does crit damage, crits your ammunition. That's a 2 out of 2, or 1 to 1 chance that ammo will be destroyed. When ammo is destroyed, that's a 10% chance it explodes. 20% of explosion is very high. That doubles when the leg is destroyed... which in turn will cause your side torso to explode.

I learned that one the hard way. Yes, having ammo in your legs is safer than having one or two loose tons in your torso. But even safer than that is having your ammo padded with other, larger targets to soak up the damage.

Edited by Koniving, 25 May 2013 - 09:51 AM.


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Posted 25 May 2013 - 09:48 AM

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Don't forget Wadde's newbie guide stickied at the top... that's why it's stickied.. It's a work of art!

And yes, if you're looking for ideas on which mechs to buy and love seeing me get thrown under a bus.... you can check out my mech tier list.

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Edited by MavRCK, 25 May 2013 - 09:48 AM.






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