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[Gremlich Johns]

AceTimberwolf, on 03 June 2013 - 01:16 PM, said:

I would even call the Line at anyone Born before 1989. I'm born in 87 and experiencing the hangover of the 80s and mulling the change of the 2000s young people these days don't appreciate games for why they are made, they just care for instant gratification. Maybe its just a California Mindset but even when I'm in Japan the kids born in the 90s just don't act the same way

And the kids who were teenagers in the 60's are totally dicking the U.S. up due to THEIR feelings of entitlement...

[AceTimberwolf]

Gremlich Johns, on 03 June 2013 - 04:16 PM, said:

And the kids who were teenagers in the 60's are totally dicking the U.S. up due to THEIR feelings of entitlement...

Thats why I pay my 30% Tax to the LDP LOL

[JP Josh]

i have to say patience i played some friend of mine on mwo and we since droped till we faced each other..... im disappointed no body the previous 5 games didn't beat it into them that the bigger mech with the bigger cannons isn't always the better mech.

i guss it didnt help i beat him in a commando with a single er ppc. yes i know but i got board and wanted a challenge!!!!

but seriously i see patients and that my gen wants it the easy way most of the time. i and my brother must be the rare few. and they also cant figure out ways to counter lrms ppc small lazer boats.... list goes on and i hate them for not thinkin and using teamwork/stragidgy... time for new drink

but back to my firend he took a atlas put the smallest xl he could and then put the min heat sinks in it... then loaded it with the biggest guns he could find in game with as mutch as it could carry with 1 ton of ammo per weapon (exept energy)

he did a total of 10 dmg for the whole round the whole round

Edited by JP Josh, 04 June 2013 - 10:25 PM.

[caserock]

Something else I've thought about:

Gen Y has grown up in an era of MASSIVE video game corporations, and the video game being seen as a commodity. Before this era, playing a lot of video games was definitely not seen as a cool thing for people to do. It was the realm of the nerds, and a real huge chunk of major titles were directed at this more intelligent and nerdy audience. Nowadays, EA or whoever has no problem farting out a cheaply produced "made in china" sort of product and selling off millions of copies just because of brand recognition.

Video gaming went from a nerdy sub-culture thing to a Wal-Mart, quarterback of the high school football team thing. I think that just having video games being widely accepted as a normal form of entertainment has really shaped the younger generation's view of the whole thing while really souring the older generation's view of the whole deal. (As in: " I was sitting here having a good time with the chess club before all these popular kids showed up and ruined our party" kinda thing.)

However, there are enough companies out there trying to produce quality products, and with steam and other outlets it's never been easier for anyone to publish a game from their basement, that people like us can still enjoy our grognarding while new people are being attracted with ease of access.

[Spirit of the Wolf]

Huh.

This is actually kinda odd for me. I'm definitely a part of the millennial generation, being born in the nineties, but I personally hate CoD.

The Crysis series were great games for me, as was Deus Ex: Human Revolution. I loved LEGOs, K'Nex, Roller Coaster Tycoon (1,2, & 3), Zoo Tycoon, Myst, Riven, Myst III, IV, and V (and I started playing Myst & Riven when I was still in Elementary school). I loved Portal & Portal 2. Skyrim was incredible. I honestly hate the 'corridor style' games that have only a single linear storyline. Unfortunately, those are exactly what many of the games today are.

I played Pokemon for literally thousands of hours (I have one game with over 400 hours logged on it alone) -- I played video games when it was still the geeky thing that wasn't mainstream.

So I know what crap games look like. I don't feel entitled, but I also think that a completely unfinished game shouldn't be released in a rush-to-market-for-biggest-profit debacle.

I'm patient. (Ironically, I also have ADHD, and video games are pretty much the only thing I'm patient for.)

TL;DR
Not everyone in a generation behaves the same way.

Edited by Spirit of the Wolf, 09 June 2013 - 01:06 PM.

[LoveMaker]

Great replies here. Again, I know talking generationally is generalizing and realize there are many who don't fit the stereotypes.

An observation I recently came across was Millenials feeling they have to learn to or take a class before doing things. Which is odd given that information today is absolutely free and staggeringly abundant. My nephew mentioned that he wanted to take some culinary classes at college so he could learn to cook for himself. My teen neighbor has been my "apprentice" learning how to work on cars but mentioned taking automotivecollege courses even though not for a career. I don't know if this is a product of a educational debt, diploma mill society we have become or lack of confidence. My process has always been learn by doing. Get stuck-look it up and continue on. Not take months of school, tests, and preparation, before even attempting it.

I have noticed this attitude in my nephew and his friends as well regarding video games. Instead of jumping in and enjoying the journey, it is a process that must be learned beforehand to eliminate risk of failure.

[ThinkTank]

My lawn. Get off it.

[caserock]

LoveMaker, on 16 June 2013 - 09:28 PM, said:

Great replies here. Again, I know talking generationally is generalizing and realize there are many who don't fit the stereotypes.

An observation I recently came across was Millenials feeling they have to learn to or take a class before doing things. Which is odd given that information today is absolutely free and staggeringly abundant. My nephew mentioned that he wanted to take some culinary classes at college so he could learn to cook for himself. My teen neighbor has been my "apprentice" learning how to work on cars but mentioned taking automotivecollege courses even though not for a career. I don't know if this is a product of a educational debt, diploma mill society we have become or lack of confidence. My process has always been learn by doing. Get stuck-look it up and continue on. Not take months of school, tests, and preparation, before even attempting it.

I have noticed this attitude in my nephew and his friends as well regarding video games. Instead of jumping in and enjoying the journey, it is a process that must be learned beforehand to eliminate risk of failure.

I think this might be more about being young and inexperienced in life rather than a generational thing. It's hard to have confidence when you've spent your whole life sitting in class rooms!

[WANTED]

I'm old fart Gen Xer ( 42 ) and I find I get overwhelmed on the XBOX Call of Duty games by the younger generations easily. I believe I am better with a PC and mouse now cause I didn't grow up playing XBOX like they did. I can't react as fast or hit the buttons fast enough.This is one reason my wife has the XBOX and I play only this game on the PC. You see I grew up with computers ( Atari 400xl and up ). Watching my now 4 year old son ( started ipad when he was 2 ) just know how to work ipads, iphones, etc. It's as if he was born with this technological ability. Each generation seems to come better equipped to handle the latest technology. Very interesting to observe personally.

But.... I will put an AC20 round in your Millenials *** as good as the rest of em

[James Montana]

Associating play styles and likes with one's generation is fallacious, and an easy way to generalize millions. That's a bad thing, by the way.

[Spirit of the Wolf]

And yet, all stereotypes (except maybe BOSE), are based in truth.

*EDIT*
Oh come one, not even ONE laugh?
Sheesh.

Edited by Spirit of the Wolf, 24 June 2013 - 09:36 AM.

[Lugh]

Spirit of the Wolf, on 23 June 2013 - 04:55 PM, said:

And yet, all stereotypes (except maybe BOSE), are based in PERCEIVED truth.

*EDIT*
Oh come one, not even ONE laugh?
Sheesh.

Editted for truth

And that is what leads to discrimination.

Edited by Lugh, 26 June 2013 - 12:25 PM.

[ArchMage Sparrowhawk]

caserock, on 02 June 2013 - 08:00 AM, said:

I'm 30, so I lay right in the middle of both generations. I think the older players are more like to play a game the way it is and wish it were better, whereas the younger players will complain directly to the CEO of a company if their game isn't exactly what they were expecting.

A sense of entitlement?

This is a gross generalization, of course.

HAHAH you make it sound almost admirable though. They're gonna change the world.

[WVAnonymous]

ArchMage Sparrowhawk, on 29 June 2013 - 04:18 AM, said:

HAHAH you make it sound almost admirable though. They're gonna change the world.

Every generation changes the world. The question is "are you good with that change?".