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[Jasen]

Please tell me in as few words as possible, PGI, what you plan to do to make lights worth playing?



EDIT: Reply from below posted here to stop the mouth breathers from whipping out their epeens because they cannot comprehend the question.

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Sephlock, on 29 May 2013 - 03:02 PM, said:

Well, there's MASC, and the eventual removal of the speed cap.

I think this may help, lately I've been feeling like I'm crawling through molasses. I'm pretty certain there has been a game speed change.. or maybe they scaled everything down. It is hard to explain, but I've been demonstrating amongst our corp for a bit and we all seem to agree that even when I'm moving 150+ across their screen.. I'm barely moving. I assume they may have scaled down the speed EXACTLY because of MASC coming. They were having problems with things moving faster than 150, so if you slow 150 to 100... now your problem magically goes away. I'm guessing with MASC and rocking 200kph, it will feel like the old 150 and that may make it work again.

But either way, thats leading me to wonder what the point of the lights are at this moment. With no dedicated info roles, not being faster than the fastest mediums... Basically, you get a few more module slots for a lot less punch, less armor, less c-bills.


I mean lets make the pro and con list with a good medium as comparison:

Pro:
slightly smaller frame (not that it even matters in actual gameplay)
slightly faster in numbers (barely a difference in actual movement speed)
(~5 ton savings on drop weight which don't even matter)

Con:
less armor
less damage
less everything


Also, there is no dedicated role for lights. Scouting is barely needed in the first place with the combination of small maps and big maps having very few "alleys" of attack... (that and big maps aren't even that big.. you can see 70% of alpine standing in 1 of many spots). Then consider that they aren't faster than mediums that have the same bonuses.. (3M for instance). No reason to bring that light outside of leagues (that are pretty cobbled together as it is).


Just a simple question people, quit being so dramatic.


What is coming for lights to make them worth playing... or... special if you will.

Edited by Jasen, 29 May 2013 - 03:26 PM.

[AnnoyingCat]

in the future

[Soy]

Please tell me in as few words as possible, why the **** you think you're entitled to have PGI respond to your asinine question on a stupid forum.

[Petroshka]

looks like someone ran away from the herd and got hunted down by a treb or cricket interceptor.

[FupDup]

Soy, on 29 May 2013 - 02:19 PM, said:

Please tell me in as few words as possible, why the **** you think you're entitled to have PGI respond to your asinine question on a stupid forum.

Looks like somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.

[Pater Mors]

Considering I am consistently scoring above 250 dmg in a Commando with only a LL and SSRMS, I'd hardly call that worthless.

[Ramien]

When did they stop being worth playing? I've always had fun in mine, and I've always been able to contribute to a match.

[Soy]

FupDup, on 29 May 2013 - 02:20 PM, said:

Looks like somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.

Have you seen how many threads there are with people demanding some sort of entitled response? Like yeah, PGI has nothing better to do than answer loaded questions like these. I've seen about 20 today, I don't get it.

Edited by Soy, 29 May 2013 - 02:23 PM.

[FupDup]

Soy, on 29 May 2013 - 02:23 PM, said:

Have you seen how many threads there are with people demanding some sort of entitled response? Like yeah, PGI has nothing better to do than answer loaded questions like these. I've seen about 20 today, I don't get it.

Might have something to do with the fact that we're in the gameplay balance subforum.

Edited by FupDup, 29 May 2013 - 02:25 PM.

[Jasen]

I said please...

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

my lights are worth playing.

[MasterErrant]

Jasen, on 29 May 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

Please tell me in as few words as possible, PGI, what you plan to do to make lights worth playing?

they are. You just need to get over the loss of super powered lights due to broken game mechanics and play them as lights not Cute lil'assaults

thinking one of my best ever matches netted me 150K 1600xp(seven count em seven savior kills but only 1 kill and seven assists) all in a com2D
Ended with me and a spider circlin' each other on one leg and on ml each timed out but we got the win on points...wow. I was shaking after that one.

Edited by MasterErrant, 29 May 2013 - 10:43 PM.

[Tombstoner]

geesh i killed a stalker in my 4x mg spider the other night.... lights are hardly worthless.

[Sephlock]

Well, there's MASC, and the eventual removal of the speed cap.

[Sougard]

Sephlock, on 29 May 2013 - 03:02 PM, said:

Well, there's MASC, and the eventual removal of the speed cap.

And collisions! Oh wait…

[Roland]

Light mechs are worth playing, by good pilots.

[CGB Behemoth]

LRM buff & nerf.
PPC nerf & buff.
Ballistic buff.
SRM nerf.

Just don't cry! Play LIGHT! It is always FUN!

[Nauht]

Lights are like mosquitoes. The new and dumb ones get slapped hard but the good ones keep buzzing around your ear making you slap your own face all night.

[MonkeyCheese]

My spider 5D 103 matches, 98 kills 39 deaths, 2.51 kdr. Lately as I have finally gotten into my grove with this mech I have been pulling 300s-500s in the damage department.

Im Australian with 280ish ping and these stats have been mostly recorded after the lagshieldfixes/state rewind stuff has been implemented.

Im not that great but Its my best performing mech and also my favorite to drive.

Worthless??

Sougard, on 29 May 2013 - 03:04 PM, said:

And collisions! Oh wait…

I remember those days, they crafted you into a good light pilot or you were instantly dead. As a light fanatic I cant wait till knockdowns come back, also the current collisions are somewhat buggy and can still get you stuck between another mech and a building and therefore dead.

Edited by MonkeyCheese, 29 May 2013 - 03:21 PM.

[Jasen]

Sephlock, on 29 May 2013 - 03:02 PM, said:

Well, there's MASC, and the eventual removal of the speed cap.

First real answer... I applaud you for not assuming that I am super noobzors and run cookie-cutter lights like mini-brawling assaults. I think this may help, lately I've been feeling like I'm crawling through molasses. I'm pretty certain there has been a game speed change.. or maybe they scaled everything down. It is hard to explain, but I've been demonstrating amongst our corp for a bit and we all seem to agree that even when I'm moving 150+ across their screen.. I'm barely moving. I assume they may have scaled down the speed EXACTLY because of MASC coming. They were having problems with things moving faster than 150, so if you slow 150 to 100... now your problem magically goes away. I'm guessing with MASC and rocking 200kph, it will feel like the old 150 and that may make it work again.

But either way, thats leading me to wonder what the point of the lights are at this moment. With no dedicated info roles, not being faster than the fastest mediums... Basically, you get a few more module slots for a lot less punch, less armor, less c-bills.


I mean lets make the pro and con list with a good medium as comparison:

Pro:
slightly smaller frame (not that it even matters in actual gameplay)
slightly faster in numbers (barely a difference in actual movement speed)
(~5 ton savings on drop weight which don't even matter)

Con:
less armor
less damage
less everything


Also, there is no dedicated role for lights. Scouting is barely needed in the first place with the combination of small maps and big maps having very few "alleys" of attack... (that and big maps aren't even that big.. you can see 70% of alpine standing in 1 of many spots). Then consider that they aren't faster than mediums that have the same bonuses.. (3M for instance). No reason to bring that light outside of leagues (that are pretty cobbled together as it is).


Just a simple question people, quit being so dramatic.


What is coming for lights to make them worth playing... or... special if you will.