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[DragonTactician]

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<p>I am very happy with the game as a whole, althrough we need more servers international but thats another poll for another day. I dont mind buying mechs for mech credit or changing excess xp into gxp with mech credits, i believe all those things are valid and it does speed up module speed ^^. Also purchasing permium time for additional bonuses per game makes up for the games you die early or adds more to the games you rocked.</p>
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<p>However i think things like comestic looks to your mechs, such as cammo, colors should not be mech credited at all, each person has purchased mechs with mech credit if they purchased hero mechs or the incoming champion mechs or brought them with c bils, since were all choosing from the same selection of battle mechs, the way to make a mech truely our own is by customizing the colors patterns or camo etc.</p>
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But i will give credit, the camo mech credit isnt to bad, you have the one off purchase then the higher price which is perm unlock, however the premium colors costing 1,000 mech credit, per color on each of the 3 color selections is quite expensive becuase if you have 3 premium colors thats 3,000 mech credits, then if you wanted a cammo that can be 1250 for the perm unlock, thats 4,250 mech credits just to change the color of your mech. You spend more mech credit coloring most lighter mechs then to purchase them.</p>
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<p>So my quest is as thus. Should we be paying mech credits for appearances?</p>
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[Volthorne]

First: HTML tags much?

Second: How are the Devs going to pay for their food if we don't have cash-only cosmetics? Premium and XP conversions aside, cosmetics make up a HUGE part of F2P cash transactions.

[Fenris Krinkovich]

The only thing I'd change is a one-time use of colors, just like the paint schemes. I don't know if that's a good business decision, though.

[DragonTactician]

You can purchase all mechs with mech credit, there is a cbil value, then a mech credit value, then you have hero mechs that have bonus that are worth more mech credits, then you have premium time, you have **** pit items, you have the exchange exp to gxp converison that cost mech credits, you also have the new champion mechs that will cost mech credit coming in.

There are enough mech credits transactions to supply the game with the funds it needs, not only that, they bringing out more hero mechs all the time.

As i said, i think maying for the new cammo that makes your atlass look like a skull dinosaur same with the stalkers and a dino bird for ravens is good, i can understand that as its a unique appearance. I also said that i liked how they had a one time purchase for camo but if you wanted to use it on all your mechs cause you liked it so much you can unlock it permantly, however the colors i dont believe should be mech credits, for instance the camo mention above, uses 3 premium colors, that cost you like i said in my post, 3,000 mech credits, which on top of the unlock is 4250 and that is just for the appearance of one mech.

That ontop of all the other things is making a free to play game quite costly, and dont you get it, there isn't an area in the game that cant be brought with mech credit, so how does that make it truely free to play beta game.

When i look at the colors i feel that rather then playing a game i love with the knowledge and history of the innersphere that ive played on pcs going way way wayyyyy back that they just after my money then the enjoyment i get from their game.

[Volthorne]

Cosmetics will always outweigh everything else in terms of revenue for F2P titles. Multiple companies have evidence of this (I'd link some except I'm on my craptastic computer right now, so that's not really an option), including Valve, the guys who made TF2 - sorry, HatFortress 2. If you don't want to pay to paint your 'Mech in fancy colours, fine, don't, but don't tell the Devs that they have to starve and keep producing this game at the same time. Despite what you may think, this is still a business and is being run a such.

More free paints are coming Soon™, but you'll have to wait for CW because they're all faction-based.

[DragonTactician]

There you go again, when did i go tell the devs to starve, you keep saying that they need the money, they need the money, without the color cost they would starve, is there some part of the site im not seeing, such as investor information, finace reports about the companys game, and yet you keep ingoring the fact that i said i can understand camo being paid for when mech credits and even voted so, its just that colors i think is a bit much even paying per color, like i said for 3,000 mech credits to be used with one of the camo looks which is 1250 to unlock that, im not so well off where i can afford to pay those kind of prices per mech or if i did my wife would soon kill me.

I am not tellingthe company to go starve, just that the current color system is overzealous or over charging, someones idea before was valid about paying to unlock a color rather then paying 1,000 mech credits each time to use it, that way you can apply the color to other mechs, which being paid every time, same way for camo unlocks, you pay 1250 to unlock it can use it on every single mech hene forth.

So unless you can prove the fact that changing or implementing a new system to the colors will force this company to starve or go bust, i think what your saying is clearly biased and not aiding in the dicussion as well as coming off more confrontational, not only that your posts are constantly restating the same point of view with different words not to meantion your first comment on the html tags which where placed in by the forum itself becuase at the time of my orginal post my internet disconnected.

Please keep your comments constructive where as we can exchange ideas and different points of view without the need to be confrontational even if we do disagree as we are now. I understand that from your perspective that you are willing to pay all the costs to show your support and loyalty to the game, i respect that point of view, i agree with it to a certain extent but not fully in the choice of colors. As i have brought various hero mechs constnatly paying for premium time and converting excess exp to gxp on my master mechs.

So if you have the information on the profit margins of the mwomercs and how they go starving if we had say colors unlocked like someone elses idea or colors be cbil rather then mech credit or even just cheaper mech credit value, then id like to see that as it might change my perspective of the issues, but untill that time i do think the current color system is heavily overcharged, not the cammo system, but the color system yes.

Contstantly stating that the company will go bust is more planting seeds of fear to prevent the idea of growing rather then encourage the orginal idea or expand on it. All you needed to say was that you believe the current system is fair and like you said the business model being used here is a just one, i have played a lot of mmo's some of which are paided subscription and others that were but are now free to paid to i do understand the business model and as i said, they have plenty of ways they making money.

Edited by Diggstar, 17 April 2013 - 12:11 AM.

[Bobzilla]

If they find not many people are purchasing it they can have sales or lower the price. But they are probably gonna give it a good run befor they make any changes. It would have to be much much cheaper for me to spend any money on cammo, as i can't even see it when i play anyways.

im willing to bet this game is still not making profit or even sustaining itself.

[Mechteric]

Once they get more camo's online I think it would be nice of them to allow some of the older camo's and a few more basic colors available with CBills OR MC. Never hurts to have more color on battlefield!

Edited by CapperDeluxe, 31 May 2013 - 04:43 AM.

[Corvus Antaka]

not sure if trolling?