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[Huge]

Welp

That has been made official now, we're getting Sarah mechs. So I guess now it is time to make the following official declaration myself.

If the Sarah mech is purchasable with MC or less then 100% of the MC value in real life currency is donated to Sarah's family or a cancer center.

Your *** is getting TK'd

Every
Single
Match

This is a wonderful example of a community that seems to want to give a damn but is going to ruin any decent intention they had by giving into their own selfish desires. If you gave even half a care to cancer victims you would spent your precious MC allowance on actual donations. Not buying in game currency for a video game to flank 'how much you care about the tragedy' when you are funding PGI instead of someone that was actually effected by the death.

Ball is in PGI's court on this one. If the mech is completely divorced from any MC exchanges or they set up a separate stream so the revue is given to helping victims. In absolutely totality. Then good on them, many other ways to handle it that doesn't ride the very sickening envelope of using a little girl's death for finical gain. If that is how they want to roll then goody for them. I just pray they are not that insanely foolish to get greedy on this concept.

[Mechteric]

There's nothing wrong with charity that tries to get more people to give money by giving a little something in return. There's too many charities out there for any person really to just flat out give to them all, so its events and things like this that can spur normal people to give once in a while in a comfortable fashion. There's no shame in that.

[Nicholas Carlyle]

CapperDeluxe, on 31 May 2013 - 11:55 AM, said:

There's nothing wrong with charity that tries to get more people to give money by giving a little something in return. There's too many charities out there for any person really to just flat out give to them all, so its events and things like this that can spur normal people to give once in a while in a comfortable fashion. There's no shame in that.

I think what he's saying is PGI better not take a cut. And if they do take a cut, we should boycott the mech and donate directly to a cancer charity.

[Mechteric]

Nicholas Carlyle, on 31 May 2013 - 11:57 AM, said:

I think what he's saying is PGI better not take a cut. And if they do take a cut, we should boycott the mech and donate directly to a cancer charity.

oh, well he didn't have to be an a-hole about it. Geez they haven't even announced the details yet and he's already pre-raging like its a given they're gonna take cancer donations in their pockets. That's a low thing to say when they haven't even done anything bad yet.

[Esplodin]

Nicholas Carlyle, on 31 May 2013 - 11:57 AM, said:

I think what he's saying is PGI better not take a cut. And if they do take a cut, we should boycott the mech and donate directly to a cancer charity.

Cryengine

Fixed percentage of all revenues

Spend your fsking money directly with a charity for maximum good and stop flashing your charity work like so much bling.

Oh well, good intentions and zero rational thought is the mode of the day. Hey, why are we in this hand-basket?

[Anonought of the Undivided]

Agreed. All of the proceeds have to go directly to Sarah's family and/or cancer research.

I still think that a memorial plate in the cockpit / some kind of a memorial in a map would have been a much, much better option.


The death of a young girl should not be turned into profit for a private company, no matter how noble the cause seems to be.
You shouldn't feel the need to have a reward for donating money to a worthy cause.

If you people really need a bunch of pixels to remind you of her passing, it should be either completely free or with all the profits going for family/charity, which I doubt will be the case because as Esplodin already said,

Esplodin, on 31 May 2013 - 12:22 PM, said:

Cryengine

Fixed percentage of all revenues

And don't play the 'raising awareness' card - you can do that better with a memorial plaque or a shrine/statue/etc in a map. No need to have running and shooting tombstones around.

[Svalfangr]

Huge, on 31 May 2013 - 11:46 AM, said:

Welp

That has been made official now, we're getting Sarah mechs. So I guess now it is time to make the following official declaration myself.

If the Sarah mech is purchasable with MC or less then 100% of the MC value in real life currency is donated to Sarah's family or a cancer center.

Your *** is getting TK'd

Every
Single
Match

This is a wonderful example of a community that seems to want to give a damn but is going to ruin any decent intention they had by giving into their own selfish desires. If you gave even half a care to cancer victims you would spent your precious MC allowance on actual donations. Not buying in game currency for a video game to flank 'how much you care about the tragedy' when you are funding PGI instead of someone that was actually effected by the death.

Ball is in PGI's court on this one. If the mech is completely divorced from any MC exchanges or they set up a separate stream so the revue is given to helping victims. In absolutely totality. Then good on them, many other ways to handle it that doesn't ride the very sickening envelope of using a little girl's death for finical gain. If that is how they want to roll then goody for them. I just pray they are not that insanely foolish to get greedy on this concept.

Can't this person be banned for admitting that he is going to do nothing but Team kill? i am going to write a support ticket to find out.

[Huge]

Svalfangr, on 31 May 2013 - 12:53 PM, said:

Can't this person be banned for admitting that he is going to do nothing but Team kill? i am going to write a support ticket to find out.

Sent

[Esplodin]

Svalfangr, on 31 May 2013 - 12:53 PM, said:

Can't this person be banned for admitting that he is going to do nothing but Team kill? i am going to write a support ticket to find out.

Don't forget all the people that "liked" it. For the record, I'm one of those. Personally I find the whole idea of a hero cancer mech tacky and very offensive.

[Nicholas Carlyle]

I can't really get mad about his post. I lost my dad to cancer.

It would be very frustrating if this turned into a way to make profit.

The problem is...to buy mechs you need MC...so unless they make the mech purchasable for USD, it starts to get funky where the money is going.

Maybe the best way to do it is set the MC price to an equivilent of like $10, then for every mech purchased PGI donates $10.

But it's a very touchy subject for a lot of people.

Edited by Nicholas Carlyle, 31 May 2013 - 01:00 PM.

[Rebas Kradd]

PGI should be accountable, those who dislike the idea should be gracious about it, and those who want this to happen should find a way to donate against cancer no matter what happens. There, I think that covers all the bases.

[Esplodin]

Rebas Kradd, on 31 May 2013 - 01:02 PM, said:

PGI should be accountable, those who dislike the idea should be gracious about it, and those who want this to happen should find a way to donate against cancer no matter what happens. There, I think that covers all the bases.

The issue is that PGI should not touch it at all. Let's look at the possible outcomes:

1) PGI develops cancermech and sells it for cash. Cryengine needs to get a cut. Lawyers and tax pros get a cut. Cancer research gets whatever is left over. Permanent tacky livestrong mech in game. PGI devs spend time on that instead of the HUGE list of things to get done before launch, which means less content.

2) PGI develops cancermech and gives it away/CB. Cancer research gets zip. Permanent tacky livestrong mech in game. PGI devs spend time on that instead of the HUGE list of things to get done before launch, which means less content.

3) PGI doesn't do it. People who want to show everyone how much they bling for cancer get mad.

There is no happy outcome possible, and PGI should stick to making a game. Mods should have shut this whole topic down before it started.

[Shakespeare]

Just bear in mind that they handle transactions externally, so there might be a cut for the MC transactions themselves.
But for those that don't trust PGI enough to actually make a charity CHARITABLE, here's a question:

Even if they promised to donate every penny to a foundation...

HOW WOULD YOU KNOW THEY ACTUALLY DID IT?

Man, paranoia must suck.

[Hammerfinn]

I have no issue with the ideas presented in this thread.

However, the tone of this thread and of much of the subsequent self-righteous raging is nauseating. If you disagree, do so cordially, and take Sarah's name off your piece of hate.

[MonkeyCheese]

Amen to the OP.

I hope you people are happy, a little girl died and your begging got you a hero jenner early as it was always speculated that the founder mechs would get their hero variants last

As people have said in other threads if everyone begging for this hero mech actually cared about the topic (cancer research) they would have donated directly to the cause and moved on.

Some will say they dont like jenners they are just supporting the cause, well then why dont you go donate directly to the research centers?

I hope pgi does the right thing and just makes it a "champion" mech with the same layout just with say a different name seperate from a hero jenner, that way we could actually see how many people care about this topic or are just here for the hero jenner.

While I know its for a GREAT cause and all, trust me im not against supporting cancer research or a tribute, Everyone including possibly myself will buy this mech if its a real hero (aka 30% cbills, different paint, different hardpoint layout) because of just that fact, its a hero jenner, the jenner has always been a popular light mech before/during/after the 3L ravens ecm dominance. The people who buy this mech would have most likely gotten the hero mech in the first place anyway.

[General Taskeen]

The Cure for cancer is stuff the Big Pharm Industry doesn't want people to know about. That's the real tragedy.

[Sephlock]

Esplodin, on 31 May 2013 - 01:16 PM, said:

The issue is that PGI should not touch it at all. Let's look at the possible outcomes:

1) PGI develops cancermech and sells it for cash. Cryengine needs to get a cut. Lawyers and tax pros get a cut. Cancer research gets whatever is left over. Permanent tacky livestrong mech in game. PGI devs spend time on that instead of the HUGE list of things to get done before launch, which means less content.

2) PGI develops cancermech and gives it away/CB. Cancer research gets zip. Permanent tacky livestrong mech in game. PGI devs spend time on that instead of the HUGE list of things to get done before launch, which means less content.

3) PGI doesn't do it. People who want to show everyone how much they bling for cancer get mad.

There is no happy outcome possible, and PGI should stick to making a game. Mods should have shut this whole topic down before it started.

MonkeyCheese, on 31 May 2013 - 02:25 PM, said:

Amen to the OP.

I hope you people are happy, a little girl died and your begging got you a hero jenner early as it was always speculated that the founder mechs would get their hero variants last

As people have said in other threads if everyone begging for this hero mech actually cared about the topic (cancer research) they would have donated directly to the cause and moved on.

Some will say they dont like jenners they are just supporting the cause, well then why dont you go donate directly to the research centers?

I hope pgi does the right thing and just makes it a "champion" mech with the same layout just with say a different name seperate from a hero jenner, that way we could actually see how many people care about this topic or are just here for the hero jenner.

While I know its for a GREAT cause and all, trust me im not against supporting cancer research or a tribute, Everyone including possibly myself will buy this mech if its a real hero (aka 30% cbills, different paint, different hardpoint layout) because of just that fact, its a hero jenner, the jenner has always been a popular light mech before/during/after the 3L ravens ecm dominance. The people who buy this mech would have most likely gotten the hero mech in the first place anyway.

[Frisk]

Here's a novel idea, instead of buying a mech why don't you just donate the money to her family?

Esplodin, on 31 May 2013 - 12:22 PM, said:

Oh well, good intentions and zero rational thought is the mode of the day. Hey, why are we in this hand-basket?

Welcome to the MWO boards btw.

Edited by Frisk, 31 May 2013 - 03:52 PM.

[Helmer]

Although the initial intent of the OP seemed to be an honorable one, threatening a portion of the community, who are looking to do some good, hardly seems constructive.


Brian Ekman, on his Twitter stream, confirmed that all proceeds would be going to charity

Twitter User May 31st
Will the Sarah!Mech have ALL proceeds going to charity? If not, I'm going to be frankly pretty offended. #mwo
Bryan Ekman ‏@bryanekman May 31st
of course.


I agreed that donating directly to a vetted charity is the best route, however, looking down or bashing individuals who wish to do so in the medium in which the tragedy was reported in , hardly seems to be appropriate.



Closing down this thread.



Cheers.