

Need A Hand With Graphical Performance
#1
Posted 31 May 2013 - 07:39 PM
I am working with PGI support but so far I am only getting 1-3 average increase in FPS.
things I have done so far:
reinstalled game (own accord)
deleted shaders folder (per support)
run repair tool (per support)
increased game task priority (per forum post)
moved graphical performance from balanced to high quality through Catalyst control center (own accord)
I have tried to downgrade to Directx9 since the game does not support 11 right now, however the download does not seem to want to take, as I am running Directx11 and the installer knows this, saying I am running a newer or equivalent version of Directx.
attached below are segments of my DxDiag file for people to read over and make suggestions from. any advice or input is greatly appreciated, however I will not be buying a new card anytime soon.
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System Information
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Time of this report: 5/28/2013, 17:11:13
Machine name:
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.130318-1533)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: HP-Pavilion
System Model: AY597AA-ABA HPE-110f
BIOS: BIOS Date: 10/26/09 16:01:30 Ver: 5.05
Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 925 Processor (4 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 8184MB RAM
Page File: 2574MB used, 13791MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 64bit Unicode
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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)
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Display Devices
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Card name: AMD Radeon HD 6570
Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Chip type: AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x6759)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6759&SUBSYS_25031462&REV_00
Display Memory: 1775 MB
Dedicated Memory: 2035 MB
Shared Memory: 3835 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: DELL 1907FP
Monitor Id: DEL4014
Native Mode: 1280 x 1024(p) (60.020Hz)
Output Type: HD15
Driver Name: aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx32,aticfx32,aticfx32,atiumd64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atidxx32,atidxx32,atiumdva,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll
Driver File Version: 8.17.0010.1191 (English)
Driver Version: 12.104.0.0
DDI Version: 11
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 3/28/2013 22:37:02, 1155264 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-2419-11CF-7573-0905BEC2C535}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x6759
SubSys ID: 0x25031462
Revision ID: 0x0000
Driver Strong Name: oem99.inf:ATI.Mfg.NTamd64.6.1:ati2mtag_NI:12.104.0.0:pci\ven_1002&dev_6759
Rank Of Driver: 00E62001
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C
Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
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D3D9 Overlay: Not Supported
DXVA-HD: Not Supported
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
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System Devices
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Name: Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4396&SUBSYS_2A92103C&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&9A
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 6.01.7601.17586 (English), 3/24/2011 23:29:04, 52736 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.01.7601.17586 (English), 3/24/2011 23:29:14, 325120 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.01.7601.17586 (English), 3/24/2011 23:29:26, 343040 bytes
Name: VIA 1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3044&SUBSYS_2A92103C&REV_C0\4&2966AB86&0&30A4
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\1394ohci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 06:44:56, 229888 bytes
Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1203&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&C3
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard ISA bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_439D&SUBSYS_2A92103C&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&A3
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\msisadrv.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/13/2009 21:48:27, 15424 bytes
Name: Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4396&SUBSYS_2A92103C&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&92
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 6.01.7601.17586 (English), 3/24/2011 23:29:04, 52736 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.01.7601.17586 (English), 3/24/2011 23:29:14, 325120 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.01.7601.17586 (English), 3/24/2011 23:29:26, 343040 bytes
Name: Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8168&SUBSYS_2A92103C&REV_03\4&DE08897&0&0050
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1202&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&C2
Driver: n/a
Name: AMD AHCI Compatible RAID Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4392&SUBSYS_2A92103C&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&88
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ahcix64s.sys, 3.02.1540.0014 (English), 10/6/2009 09:49:14, 230456 bytes
Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_9609&SUBSYS_2A92103C&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&50
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 09:33:48, 184704 bytes
Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1201&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&C1
Driver: n/a
Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4399&SUBSYS_2A92103C&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&A5
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbohci.sys, 6.01.7601.17586 (English), 3/24/2011 23:29:04, 25600 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.01.7601.17586 (English), 3/24/2011 23:29:14, 325120 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.01.7601.17586 (English), 3/24/2011 23:29:26, 343040 bytes
Name: ATI I/O Communications Processor SMBus Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4385&SUBSYS_2A92103C&REV_3C\3&267A616A&0&A0
Driver: n/a
Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1200&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&C0
Driver: n/a
Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4398&SUBSYS_2A92103C&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&99
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbohci.sys, 6.01.7601.17586 (English), 3/24/2011 23:29:04, 25600 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.01.7601.17586 (English), 3/24/2011 23:29:14, 325120 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.01.7601.17586 (English), 3/24/2011 23:29:26, 343040 bytes
Name: ATI I/O Communications Processor PCI Bus Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4384&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&A4
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 09:33:48, 184704 bytes
Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_9607&SUBSYS_2A92103C&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&38
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 09:33:48, 184704 bytes
Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_AA90&SUBSYS_AA901462&REV_00\4&39C120B8&0&0110
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\hdaudbus.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 06:43:43, 122368 bytes
Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4398&SUBSYS_2A92103C&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&91
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbohci.sys, 6.01.7601.17586 (English), 3/24/2011 23:29:04, 25600 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.01.7601.17586 (English), 3/24/2011 23:29:14, 325120 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.01.7601.17586 (English), 3/24/2011 23:29:26, 343040 bytes
Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4383&SUBSYS_2A92103C&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&A2
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\hdaudbus.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 06:43:43, 122368 bytes
Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_9603&SUBSYS_2A92103C&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&10
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 09:33:48, 184704 bytes
Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4397&SUBSYS_2A92103C&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&98
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbohci.sys, 6.01.7601.17586 (English), 3/24/2011 23:29:04, 25600 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.01.7601.17586 (English), 3/24/2011 23:29:14, 325120 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.01.7601.17586 (English), 3/24/2011 23:29:26, 343040 bytes
Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_9601&SUBSYS_2A92103C&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&00
Driver: n/a
Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4397&SUBSYS_2A92103C&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&90
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbohci.sys, 6.01.7601.17586 (English), 3/24/2011 23:29:04, 25600 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.01.7601.17586 (English), 3/24/2011 23:29:14, 325120 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.01.7601.17586 (English), 3/24/2011 23:29:26, 343040 bytes
Name: Qualcomm Atheros 802.11 a/b/g/n Dualband Wireless Network Module
Device ID: PCI\VEN_168C&DEV_002A&SUBSYS_1000168C&REV_01\4&1A388CE3&0&0038
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\athrx.sys, 10.00.0000.0067 (English), 6/20/2012 09:42:44, 3678720 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\vwifibus.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/13/2009 20:07:21, 24576 bytes
Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1204&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&C4
Driver: n/a
Name: AMD Radeon HD 6570
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6759&SUBSYS_25031462&REV_00\4&39C120B8&0&0010
Driver: n/a
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EVR Power Information
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Current Setting: {5C67A112-A4C9-483F-B4A7-1D473BECAFDC} (Quality)
Quality Flags: 2576
Enabled:
Force throttling
Allow half deinterlace
Allow scaling
Decode Power Usage: 100
Balanced Flags: 1424
Enabled:
Force throttling
Allow batching
Force half deinterlace
Force scaling
Decode Power Usage: 50
PowerFlags: 1424
Enabled:
Force throttling
Allow batching
Force half deinterlace
Force scaling
Decode Power Usage: 0
thanks again for any help and input!
#2
Posted 31 May 2013 - 07:50 PM
http://www.videocard...=Radeon+HD+6570
http://www.anandtech...adeon-hd-6570/4
Edited by Thorqemada, 31 May 2013 - 07:59 PM.
#3
Posted 01 June 2013 - 09:21 AM
#4
Posted 01 June 2013 - 09:32 AM
You need to get a much better card or just stop expecting things will get better for you , because they wont.
Edited by KAOS 1, 01 June 2013 - 09:33 AM.
#5
Posted 01 June 2013 - 09:49 AM
You simply won't get good stable frames on that low end gpu
#6
Posted 01 June 2013 - 10:01 AM
It's a little pricey but well worth it. i just installed one into my new built rig and am now getting max 60 FPS on very high settings with V-sync turned on,75 to 85 FPS with the sync turned off..Great card and should last a couple years maybe. My old laptop that i used to play on was getting 15-20fps now sits in a corner ashamed of itself.
http://www.amazon.co...0109380&sr=1-10
Here's one for less then $200 ^^^^and should do about the same
http://www.amazon.co..._pr_product_top
Or this one for $150^^^
I think your just gonna have to shell out a little more cash for a better card..It sux but i was in the same boat.
V/R
#7
Posted 01 June 2013 - 03:29 PM
#8
Posted 01 June 2013 - 05:39 PM
..."upgraded"
Sorry. That was mean

Above are right. That's really low end.
You want to be in the 78xx or Nvidia 65x ti series at the least (higher the better)
Edited by Badconduct, 01 June 2013 - 05:40 PM.
#9
Posted 02 June 2013 - 05:19 AM
I have a AMD Radeon HD 7470, having the same issues as this guy but with twice the processing power... but it's no 5830.
Thanks for the feedback. Game just plays very choppy for me.
PC: 3.2 GHz, 8 Gb Ram
#10
Posted 02 June 2013 - 06:41 AM
Chi Tatsu, on 02 June 2013 - 05:19 AM, said:
I have a AMD Radeon HD 7470, having the same issues as this guy but with twice the processing power... but it's no 5830.
Thanks for the feedback. Game just plays very choppy for me.
PC: 3.2 GHz, 8 Gb Ram
It's possible, but is the actual CPU
#11
Posted 02 June 2013 - 01:00 PM
#12
Posted 03 June 2013 - 01:19 AM
Take care.
#13
Posted 03 June 2013 - 07:41 AM
Chi Tatsu, on 03 June 2013 - 01:19 AM, said:
Take care.
Telling people your PC is 3.2GHZ is only part of the information needed, that's why i was inquiring it is hard to accurately ***** what the issue is with only a snippet of the relevant details.
A8-5500 is an ok chip, it's by no means a powerhouse, but should be capable of playable framerates, so in answer to your question yes, you'll need a better discrete GPU.
#14
Posted 03 June 2013 - 09:07 AM
Badconduct, on 01 June 2013 - 05:39 PM, said:
..."upgraded"
Sorry. That was mean

Above are right. That's really low end.
You want to be in the 78xx or Nvidia 65x ti series at the least (higher the better)
Yeah, I know, but compared to what I had before, what I currently have is very much an upgrade, both in the GPU and dedicated ram department
#15
Posted 03 June 2013 - 10:37 AM
Later on, upgrade to a decent GPU, the APU will be fine as a cpu since it's about as quick as a phenom ii x4 less the overclockability.
#16
Posted 06 June 2013 - 04:35 PM
#17
Posted 07 June 2013 - 10:35 AM
Draxist, on 03 June 2013 - 09:07 AM, said:
Yeah, I know, but compared to what I had before, what I currently have is very much an upgrade, both in the GPU and dedicated ram department
I didn't check your other system specs.
Your CPU is the bottleneck on your system.
You need to completely upgrade everything, a new video card will improve performance but you will hit a wall rather quickly. I would avoid the Phenom series processors at this point and look into the lower end FX or high end A series.
Return the video card though, start looking into a new motherboard, processor and RAM. You may need a new tower and power supply.
Edited by Badconduct, 07 June 2013 - 10:36 AM.
#18
Posted 07 June 2013 - 11:04 AM
If you can pick up a second hand 6870 or 560ti perhaps?
Can you install speccy from pirform and copy and paste the summary, I need motherboard specs ram etc.
http://www.piriform.com/speccy
Edited by omegaorgun, 07 June 2013 - 11:07 AM.
#19
Posted 07 June 2013 - 11:13 AM
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