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#41 Koniving

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 05:06 PM

View PostSephlock, on 01 June 2013 - 04:59 PM, said:



While many think people who like themselves might be full of themselves, that happens to be a very fitting video. But why not the English version?

#42 Sephlock

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 05:09 PM

View PostFupDup, on 01 June 2013 - 05:00 PM, said:

Why do you keep liking your own posts?

I stopped doing it a while back and then my star rating dropped like a rock, because even when you philistines laugh, you don't like :). I didn't care at first, but then the game continued to be un-fun, patch after patch contained 99% disappointment, and then they shattered the general discussion forums. The "Star game" is all I have left.

#43 Bearcut

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 05:09 PM

Why doesnt anyone address the issue of Battle Values and tonnage limitations?

Any game with a mech lab is going to have cheese builds, and without a mechlab, you would literally see the same variant over and over and over.

The issue isn't that poptarts are overpowered. They are. The issue is that people can take highlanders and D-DC's without any incentive to take a lighter mech. Players that like using Lights and mediums are screwed.

BV balance is the only way to fix this.

#44 Sephlock

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 05:14 PM

LIKE MY POSTS! IT'S ALL I HAVE LEFT!

THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO BRING BACK GENERAL DISCUSSION!

#45 FupDup

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 05:14 PM

View PostSephlock, on 01 June 2013 - 05:09 PM, said:

I stopped doing it a while back and then my star rating dropped like a rock, because even when you philistines laugh, you don't like :P. I didn't care at first, but then the game continued to be un-fun, patch after patch contained 99% disappointment, and then they shattered the general discussion forums. The "Star game" is all I have left.

I've got 2062 likes for 1595 posts without a single self-like, so I guess I'm just a l33t forumwarrior master-race member and your forum elo tier is the typewriter underhive. :)

Edited by FupDup, 01 June 2013 - 05:16 PM.


#46 Kaspirikay

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 05:47 PM

hi guys whats a star

bluten or something always liked his own posts

Edited by Kaspirikay, 01 June 2013 - 05:48 PM.


#47 FupDup

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 05:48 PM

View PostKaspirikay, on 01 June 2013 - 05:47 PM, said:

hi guys whats a star

Five points worth of Clan units.



Oh wait not that kind of star.

#48 Sephlock

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 05:53 PM

View PostFupDup, on 01 June 2013 - 05:14 PM, said:

I've got 2062 likes for 1595 posts without a single self-like, so I guess I'm just a l33t forumwarrior master-race member and your forum elo tier is the typewriter underhive. :)

These philistines just don't understand true forum genius!

#49 InRev

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 05:53 PM

View PostKoniving, on 01 June 2013 - 05:01 PM, said:

The problem with the shake concept is that even during the Earthquake simulator, I found myself able to hit my target with every single shot I fired.


Ah yes, I remember when the Cataphract first came out and the 4x was op because being hit by quad AC/2s was like being stuck in a blender. Bad times were had.

#50 cyberFluke

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 05:56 PM

View PostTarl Cabot, on 01 June 2013 - 02:52 PM, said:

But really, a moving heat scale (cap increases as HS numbers increase), no negative effects as the heat increases other than shutdown (or damage w/override), no negative effects from engine crits (+5 then +10 heat increase), cross hairs in zoom and real lack of convergence activity/cone of fire.

With JJ jitters, lights will be least affected since 99% do not fire from range but are generally up close as it is.


A very accurate, concise summation of MechWarrior Online's Core Problems. Attempting much balancing before these are corrected is just wasting man-hours that PGIGP can ill-afford to squander.

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 06:27 PM

View PostcyberFluke, on 01 June 2013 - 05:56 PM, said:


A very accurate, concise summation of MechWarrior Online's Core Problems. Attempting much balancing before these are corrected is just wasting man-hours that PGIGP can ill-afford to squander.


I agree, for ATD 39 I asked if they considered a heat threshold / cap being standardized and only having heatsinks 'sink' heat rather than increasing caps. It didn't go answered.

#52 Sephlock

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 06:29 PM

Somehow I think that limiting fun is not going to end well for them or their company.

#53 Coralld

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 06:31 PM

View PostChavette, on 01 June 2013 - 10:17 AM, said:

... And the Lord saith: "Cry more forth getting shot in thy face, for you lack thy intelligence to look for cover."

You appear to be forgetting another important quote from the BT/MW bible.

"Thow shalt not bloat boat and poptart with LL and PPC do to the lacking of proper heat penalties and overall balance, for thow shall be thrown into PGI hell with the dark one, Paul, to burn for all eternity."
MWO beta, verse 20:13

*Walks over to the hanger and says a prayer* Forgive me father Atlas for I have sinned for poptarting in my Raven 4x...

#54 HybridTheory

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 06:32 PM

BROKEN! I are so mad. BROKEN!

#55 Carrioncrows

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 09:21 PM

View PostscJazz, on 01 June 2013 - 09:35 AM, said:

Too bad people keep posting things such as the OP without noting the upcoming JJ Shake which will nerf poptarting with nerfclub.


I believe that as much as when they said they were buffing MG's to make them useful.

#56 Monky

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 09:36 PM

I don't think people are complaining about the lighter jumpjet mechs with ppc's because honestly, it isn't that threatening. Getting an entire side torso blown out in an instant by something that you saw for a second is what gets peoples attention and makes people mad.

#57 cyberFluke

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 09:48 PM

View PostSephlock, on 01 June 2013 - 06:29 PM, said:

Somehow I think that limiting fun is not going to end well for them or their company.


"Fun" is a relative term. In a Multiplayer environment, teh dev must consider *everyone* when making "Fun". It can't work like a Single Player Game, the people you're mauling in two salvoes pay the bills as much as you do, and frankly, there's more of them than you so. You clearly do not understand game mechanics at all, and thus have no place giving your input into a game beta.

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill

Oh and "liking" all of your own posts makes you look like a sad little mommy's-basement dweller. She not tell you how special you are yet today?

Edited by cyberFluke, 01 June 2013 - 09:49 PM.


#58 Oderint dum Metuant

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 11:04 PM

View PostcyberFluke, on 01 June 2013 - 09:48 PM, said:


"Fun" is a relative term. In a Multiplayer environment, teh dev must consider *everyone* when making "Fun". It can't work like a Single Player Game, the people you're mauling in two salvoes pay the bills as much as you do, and frankly, there's more of them than you so. You clearly do not understand game mechanics at all, and thus have no place giving your input into a game beta.

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill

Oh and "liking" all of your own posts makes you look like a sad little mommy's-basement dweller. She not tell you how special you are yet today?


Fun in gaming is winning.

And winners will always use whatever will be best, be it jump sniping, be it SRM/ECM based atlas, be it gauss kitty's or indestructible light mechs.

These threads will never end, because perfect balance is unobtainable in a game that has direct power creep in its core structure.
People will always move onto the next best thing.

What really hurts this game is its method of match making, without lobbies, without BV/Tonnage restrictions people have no reason not to take their highlander all day because your total team tonnage/BV doesn't matter.

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 11:08 PM

View PostFupDup, on 01 June 2013 - 05:14 PM, said:

I've got 2062 likes for 1595 posts without a single self-like, so I guess I'm just a l33t forumwarrior master-race member and your forum elo tier is the typewriter underhive. :D


Half of your likes are people who think your sig is cute, don't act coy!

ps self-likes are not the issue here, I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand dude, across this line you do not-

also, Sephlock, dude, a full PM box is not the preffered netiquette, empty it, please

Edited by Soy, 01 June 2013 - 11:12 PM.


#60 Sephlock

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 11:17 PM

Cleared. Is there a way to archive old messages instead of just deleting them outright, or is this yet another area in which PGI is still living in (pre)1992 :D?





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