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[Victor Morson]

We currently have two issues that I think one change could help ease.

1- Without tonnage caps people are dropping WAY WAY over tonned whenever possible. One of the goals of MW:O was toe balance classes, but it's very hard to do within the confines of the BT universe. I think most people agree Mediums could use an advantage.

2- Light and Medium pilots are far and away the most upset with the shake; most of us, even those that were veteran heavy pop tarts, are more than happy with the increased skill requirements to jump snipe.

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The suggestion? Vastly reduce the shake for lights, with mediums only being slightly worse behind them.

Yes, this would bring back poptarts, but that is the point: To make it a medium niche. If a Trebuchet can fire PPCs fairly accurately in mid-jump, it would encourage a lot of players to run one; yet it would still be horrendously outclassed in a one on one with a non-jumping heavy or assault.
While this would in no way cure drop balance (a tonnage cap/bv system still is required), I think it would go a long way towards vastly increasing the desirability of mediums on the field.

tl/dr: Reduce shake for lights & mediums enough to allow them to somewhat accurately snipe, giving them a niche over heavies without bending the source material badly.

[Roland]

Honestly, I was just driving my Jenner, and the JJ shake is extremely minimal.

It's honestly not a crippling thing at all.

[PEEFsmash]

Roland, on 09 June 2013 - 08:05 PM, said:

Honestly, I was just driving my Jenner, and the JJ shake is extremely minimal.

It's honestly not a crippling thing at all.

Not crippling for those that had little to cripple.

Sorry. But the main use of the JJs on the top jenner pilots was to shoot on the ascent, pinpoint one component, then torso twist on the way down as you seek cover. If your aim wasn't good enough to pinpoint one component, if you didn't shoot on the ascent, if you didn't torso twist on the way down, then things were as before, you spray damage all over the place and seeing the reticle go red was good enough.

[Kiiyor]

Roland, on 09 June 2013 - 08:05 PM, said:

Honestly, I was just driving my Jenner, and the JJ shake is extremely minimal.

It's honestly not a crippling thing at all.

This.

The only drawbacks are for long range firing - which is as it should be. I have no issues hitting at medium range with lasers, even in my Trenchbuckets.

[FupDup]

The thing is, Cents, Hunchies, Cicadas, non-4X Ravens, Commandos, and Cicadas don't have JJs. This doesn't do much for them.

[Victor Morson]

FupDup, on 09 June 2013 - 08:08 PM, said:

The thing is, Cents, Hunchies, Cicadas, non-4X Ravens, Commandos, and Cicadas don't have JJs. This doesn't do much for them.

Oh for sure. They all need love too (in particular improved SRM damage), but my primary concern is encouraging a general tonning down, which would definitely happen if people were given a good reason to take Trebs and Cicadas that enjoy sniping. They're fragile enough and lightly armed, so it wouldn't be remotely the horror that Highlander jumpers were.

This is just one step of several to getting mediums on track, I definitely do not want to give the impression I believe it is a cure all for mediums. I would just love to run into 8-mans that aren't running 6-7 Assault 1-2 Lights 24/7 and I think this would be a great place to start in giving mediums an edge without changing the core concepts behind them.

Edited by Victor Morson, 09 June 2013 - 08:15 PM.

[FupDup]

Victor Morson, on 09 June 2013 - 08:14 PM, said:

They all need love too (in particular improved SRM damage), but my primary concern is encouraging a general tonning down, which would definitely happen if people were given a good reason to take Trebs and Cicadas that enjoy sniping.

You mean Jenners, right? (Although I do still see lots of 2 PPC Cicadas out there TBH).

[One Medic Army]

Could have sworn that weight-based effects were on track to be added.
So, in short, your suggestion is already being implemented after a fashion.