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Jj Shake Needs To Be Rethought Or Removed.


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Poll: Should JJ shake be removed and PPCs be re-balanced? (123 member(s) have cast votes)

Should JJ shake be removed and PPCs be rebalanced

  1. yes (27 votes [21.95%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.95%

  2. no (96 votes [78.05%])

    Percentage of vote: 78.05%

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#41 Beef Hands

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 01:51 PM

The poll was a statement of opinions on what could be done to actually balance PPCs (the driving force behind poptarts. I never claimed I had motion sickness. I'm not screaming for a highlander or 3D being returned, the previous meta experience drove me away from the game for a fair amount of time. I am advocating that PGI fix the root issues of problems instead of letting them fester for months on end and then slapping drunk goggles on every mech using jump jets and calling the game "balanced".

Questioning my pilot skill is irrelevant as this question pertains to the health of the game, not my stats.

#42 StonedVet

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 01:54 PM

View Postpow pow, on 11 June 2013 - 01:18 AM, said:

hey devs, have you considered that excessive screen shake can lead to several adverse neurological effects such as Ocular Migraines?

it would be interesting to see if any die-hard poptarts develop any adverse symptoms after the jj nerf.


REALLY??? wow I can name off hundreds of games with shake in them. Try again please.

According to the poll so far people are happy with the JJ shake as I am, and I can no longer use my HGN as a poptart, Ive moved on and use my HGN in other ways. Adapt people, stop complaining about a great change in the game.

#43 Petroshka

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 02:39 PM

View PostPEEFsmash, on 11 June 2013 - 01:48 AM, said:


Beef hands is a far better player than you, and in one of the best units. You would be the one crying if you were even good enough to match up at his Elo level.



#WhyEloShouldNeverBePublicLikeEverEver

#44 Purlana

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 04:52 PM

Remember the quad ultra ac/2 shake?

:)

#45 Finn McShae

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 04:55 PM

Shake should stay, but maybe tweak a bit.

I've never had any issues with motion sickness in any other game ever (unless I'm watching someone else play, then sometimes on FPS) but I took my HM out for a spin a while back and it did make me a bit queasy after a few jumps. Possibly its because I had a few whiskeys in me (which is pretty much always true when I play MWO) or maybe it was just the map (River City) that is always a bit laggy for me. I'd have to try a few more times. All I know is the jumping made me uncomfortable in ways that autocannon hits, missile hits, etc never have in MWO yet.

Then again, I only use my jets to get over stuff I'm too lazy to go around, or for quicker turns when getting attacked by lights, so its really no big deal for me.

View PostPurlana, on 11 June 2013 - 04:52 PM, said:

Remember the quad ultra ac/2 shake?

:)


I remember stopping playing for awhile during one of the lurmageddons because shake got so bad from missiles that I couldn't see WHERE cover was to get to it.

#46 El Bandito

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 07:10 PM

View PostBeef Hands, on 11 June 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

The poll was a statement of opinions on what could be done to actually balance PPCs (the driving force behind poptarts. I never claimed I had motion sickness. I'm not screaming for a highlander or 3D being returned, the previous meta experience drove me away from the game for a fair amount of time. I am advocating that PGI fix the root issues of problems instead of letting them fester for months on end and then slapping drunk goggles on every mech using jump jets and calling the game "balanced". Questioning my pilot skill is irrelevant as this question pertains to the health of the game, not my stats.


Then the poll clearly shows the shake should stay.

/thread.

#47 Damocles69

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 09:06 PM

pop tart tears sustain me. MOAR I SAY!!! MOAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#48 Beef Hands

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 10:49 PM

The poll has spoken. Thanks to everyone who participated and a special thanks to people who offered constructive feedback on the topic.

Cheers,
Beef Hands

#49 TOGSolid

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 10:59 PM

While I like the theory behind JJ shake, having just gotten to play with it for the first time today, it's just visually kinda painful. The actual shake itself is just really jarring to watch. I'd prefer a mild cockpit rumble combined with the crosshair inaccuracy rather than the current feeling of being shoved into a rock tumbler.

For the record, I never was a fan of poptarting and am looking at this from pure aesthetics.

#50 Ralgas

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 11:03 PM

the proposed heat balance (as it is explained so far) will do nothing to the ctf-3d and highlander jump builds.

Shake stays, minus the headache adjustment.

#51 P e n u m b r a

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 09:17 AM

people really are clueless, people just run a stalker instead that carries more firepower than the highlander did and pops by walking over the hill instead? this sort of nerf is detrimental to the game they removed a viable way to play the game it should of been tweaked not made impossible next in line stalkers then the only way to play the game will be to brawl sorry but if there is one way to play the game then its boring. Now JJs are just useless for the tonnage any sane person will just take one to get over hills high ground in this game offers little to no advantage as when you skyline it is a sure way to get yourself lit up.

currently jump jets you cant counteract the shake yourself with any wrist movement it does not settle quickly at all when you release and like people had said if it shakes on JJs why does it not shake running take that table top rubbish away because its +2 moving and +3 in TT jjs id argue that in normal game play it is still harder to make a shot while on jets than moving as you have limited time to find the target and take the shot before you jets run out of fuel.

its like people crying about the AWP in CS then adding crazy breathing shake that you cant steady while leaving everything else the same there is pin point damage accurate while moving in the air in so many games whys it an issue here just cry about everything you are bad at till there is one way to play the game at least make it similar to scope breathing shake in other games where you can counteract the forces and have it steady out when you leave off the jets so you can take a shot the RNG system at the moment is horrible.

Edited by Le0yo, 24 June 2013 - 09:40 AM.


#52 Whompity

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 10:41 AM

LOL, what kind of a question is that? What if you want JJ change to stay but PPC's to be changed? Should be a 3rd option. This is right up there with "Do you still beat your spouse?"

Edited by Olivia Maybach, 24 June 2013 - 10:41 AM.






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