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#1 Serapth

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 06:16 PM

Screen shot included.


Basically I was piloting a fully armoured Jager. Only ammo was machine gun ammo in legs, otherwise armament was 4xLL, 2 in each arm. Very beginning of fight, first hit of the match ( a pulse laser and AC10 ) resulted in a death. Something broke here.


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Edited by Serapth, 15 June 2013 - 06:17 PM.


#2 Deathlike

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 06:22 PM

The readout effectively told me "death by side coring vs XL engine".

Edit:

If I were to hazard a guess... it might have something to do with HSR and the netcode not showing that you were hit a bit something more than just that.

Edited by Deathlike, 15 June 2013 - 06:29 PM.


#3 Wildstreak

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 06:24 PM

Cause of Death
ENGINE DESTROYED

XL I presume?

Used to get this when I dared running an XL in my HBK-4H and people shot out my RT.

#4 Serapth

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 06:38 PM

View PostMerchant, on 15 June 2013 - 06:24 PM, said:

Cause of Death
ENGINE DESTROYED

XL I presume?

Used to get this when I dared running an XL in my HBK-4H and people shot out my RT.



Oh I get the fact the XL engine is a risk... what doesn't make sense is how 42 points of ammo was breached by a single AC10 and a single pulse laser shot. It should take 3-4 times that amount.

View PostDeathlike, on 15 June 2013 - 06:22 PM, said:

If I were to hazard a guess... it might have something to do with HSR and the netcode not showing that you were hit a bit something more than just that.



It's possible, but didnt match the situation. There was nobody else around, I literaly rounded a corner then died from full health. In watching the after results ( while dead ), I noticed no other enemy mechs in the area.

#5 Deathlike

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 06:51 PM

Do you have any idea on the loadout or mech that hit you (outside of the med pulse and AC10)?

#6 Serapth

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 07:05 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 15 June 2013 - 06:51 PM, said:

Do you have any idea on the loadout or mech that hit you (outside of the med pulse and AC10)?



No, other than the fact of how the conversation went.

I said "Somehow just got one shotted by an AC10".

Then he apologized and then said "I also hit you with my laser". Part of the dialog is captured in the screencap above.

It just generally doesn't add up from a math perspective.

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 07:08 PM

If you at least had an idea of what mech cored you, I could at least attempt how it is possible. I'm not sure what to tell you.

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 07:15 PM

This is only the most "likely" build that could have side cored you
FIREBRAND

I tried an Ilya, but AC10 tonnage is really high.

#9 Asmosis

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 08:35 PM

there was a lot of destruction, so its cut off the other weapons that hit you due to the amount of destroyed items prior to death. From the looks of it you took some lrm fire as well as a single laser beam doesn't normally get that much coverage.

Could also be a ppc/erppc/gauss combo from out of sight hit you first and didn't register. I see that sometimes on my stalker, i'll shoot someone on a side torso and the hit doesn't register, then the second shot kill them in the same location.

#10 AntharPrime

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Posted 16 June 2013 - 03:58 AM

I haven't had this happen to me, but I have seen it while spectating. Twice, one with an XL engine and the other with a standard engine got one-shotted with an AC10 with full armour. One was a Jager and the other was a Cataphract. Haven't a clue how it's happening but it does happen.

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Posted 16 June 2013 - 06:10 AM

I have seen secondary damage hit later on as effects are rolled like in BT. MWO is using crit chances based on a number of factors.

Looking at the damage all over your mech. You either walked over a grenade or something else is going on here. You have obviously taken more damage than ac10 and med pulse. Maybe the error is in the reporting?

Edited by Deathshade, 16 June 2013 - 06:16 AM.


#12 BR0WN_H0RN3T

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Posted 16 June 2013 - 08:31 PM

Well, it does say AC10 and MPL but it doesn't say how many AC10s and MPLs. Looks like u got alpha-spanked by something big.

#13 Kenyon Burguess

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Posted 16 June 2013 - 08:34 PM

if 2 ac/10s and 4 med pulse lasers hit you, the system will only record 1 ac/10, and 1 med pulse on the list. its one listing per weapon type.

#14 Lumpy Gash

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 01:05 AM

Is it possible you had one ton of MG in that side? From memory if you get cored out or loose part of the XL due to ammo explosion it says that as cause of death. Only think thing i can think of to explain it...





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