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[ICEFANG13]

hammerreborn, on 16 June 2013 - 09:26 PM, said:

The part where he said...



I don't know...looks like 3rd person was mentioned in July last year....sooooo where is the difficulty in understanding that?

Out of the gate, like when the game goes live or are we going to stop calling this a beta?

[hammerreborn]

johnyboy420, on 16 June 2013 - 09:31 PM, said:

You kids rant like this is still the best mechwarrior too ever hit the market, it was closed beta, lol 2months after open beta and this game went full ****** and any Real old school mechwarrior can see this this game will die if this keeps up,

You know it's bad when microsofts arcade shooter mechassault has 10x better balance, say what you will I know where this game stands for the core battle tech fan. Not you 2002 ms mech4 heads there's a reason your mech4 competitive scene died

I don't know about you but this is far and beyond my favorite mechwarrior. Now, it's hard to pair it up against mechwarrior4 mercenaries because let's face it, that game had Duncan fisher and some badass one liners in the campaign, but as for mech v mech battle, mwo is the boobs

ICEFANG13, on 16 June 2013 - 09:32 PM, said:

Out of the gate, like when the game goes live or are we going to stop calling this a beta?

Where does it say out the gate means live?

[ICEFANG13]

What does it mean? Going into open beta? That was 4 months, hardly for a long time.

[hammerreborn]

Hotthedd, on 16 June 2013 - 09:26 PM, said:

Which numbers are "made up" exactly?

All of them? I mean you even made up a number of how much you would theoretically spend if mwo catered to your needs and your needs alone.

Ill make the theoretical arrangement that for every one of you idiots that post "id give money but x" I'd give PGI 20 bucks for banning you, since clearly you hate the game so much. Since its not going to happen there's no skin off my back

[Scarcer]

Hotthedd, on 16 June 2013 - 09:26 PM, said:

Which numbers are "made up" exactly?

Here I can make up numbers and take myself seriously too.
839 users online.
So # of regular players are 10x as many.

8390

100% spend $50 a month

That's

$419,500 a month.

Somehow 1/3 of the players are alianated, so that must mean they get only

$276,870

sucks for them

But omg, new influx of players

Now we have .5 million players this month.

$250,000,000 woowww

Oh and btw, we know for a fact every single active player visits the forums and participates in all of the polls without ignoring them out of vanity.

My projections are absolutely sound. Beat that.

[hammerreborn]

ICEFANG13, on 16 June 2013 - 09:36 PM, said:

What does it mean? Going into open beta? That was 4 months, hardly for a long time.

Time is relative. A year for some is long. If your argument boils down to semantics over words you've already lost the argument. Stop embarrassing yourself

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Scarcer, on 16 June 2013 - 09:37 PM, said:

Here I can make up numbers and take myself seriously too.
839 users online.
So # of regular players are 10x as many.

8390

100% spend $50 a month

That's

$419,500 a month.

Somehow 1/3 of the players are alianated, so that must mean they get only

$276,870

sucks for them

But omg, new influx of players

Now we have .5 million players this month.

$250,000,000 woowww

Oh and btw, we know for a fact every single active player visits the forums and participates in all of the polls without ignoring them out of vanity.

My projections are absolutely sound. Beat that.

I posted these in another thread. Its probably the best stuff one can get to get an idea how many people are into MWO.

ICEFANG13, on 10 June 2013 - 11:16 PM, said:

I also figured I would point out that, if you look at this page, info from PGI (if correctly counting, and I assume it is, as it increases when I look at it, and then re-tab the page) indicates a slow overall decrease. Large bumps are usually hero mechs, new mechs, and show a difference of gameplay-mechlab-gameplay.

http://img402.images...52481184314.jpg

This is the part 1-2-3 of the graph un-put together.
http://nces.ed.gov/n...p?temp=909123.1
http://nces.ed.gov/n...p?temp=986919.8
http://nces.ed.gov/n...sp?temp=1058013

ICEFANG13, on 09 June 2013 - 08:20 AM, said:

I was gonna say, if you look at that>
http://www.google.co...nline%22&cmpt=q


You can see how there is a sudden decrease in player searching on google after November, and still a slight (decrease on the decrease, less loss, but still lose) on December. I honestly think that ECM did a big number on the community. Until it, most of the game was pretty well done for 1st person view TT. It was not perfect, but the closed beta forums were really different, people were very grateful for the game. Now a lot of people are complaining about things like 3rd person, ECM (when it was released), sniping crazy, and Orion being delayed.

There was a lot of people who posted in the ECM feedback threads, remember those? There was like 300 pages of complied feedback over a few months, with an overall trend of dislike for it.

Does anyone else wonder why the forums were last busiest on Dec 18, 2012? That was the date of the first patch for ECM after it was released (the oh poo, this was too strong, lets nerf it maybe patch). I don't think its because people are playing. This info is at the bottom of the "FORUM" tab at the top there, bottom right.

Instead of listening to the community, they did what they thought was best, and its probably really hurting them now. I can't believe how dedicated (as I am as well) people are for this game. This was easily my favorite game by far to play online, but honestly, overall, every patch ECM->on has been a let down. I played this game very competitively and well, and all I want is a little balance (not to say that people who want something else are in the wrong, not at all), I have no knowledge of BT or anything. My last 2 mech games were Mech Assault. This game I loved, and I still want to love it, but its just getting worse and worse, in my opinion.

[Scarcer]

Hotthedd, on 16 June 2013 - 09:25 PM, said:

You are "projecting" you own insecurities on me.

My action (no longer spending money on MW:O) is a fact. It has nothing to do with self importance (you are projecting again). PGI reneging on their vow not to have 3PV is also a fact.

What insecurities? Point them out? Please sensei? Prove me wrong, I need to learn so much more?

No it's just extremely funny. My statements regarding your comments must be correct

I'm the best person ever.

[ICEFANG13]

hammerreborn, on 16 June 2013 - 09:38 PM, said:

Time is relative. A year for some is long. If your argument boils down to semantics over words you've already lost the argument. Stop embarrassing yourself

How do I lose an argument that in the quote says the game is 100% 1st person, and then says for a long time, and out of the gate, will stay that way. Somehow I don't think you understand what 100% means.

[Scarcer]

ICEFANG13, on 16 June 2013 - 09:40 PM, said:

I posted these in another thread. Its probably the best stuff one can get to get an idea how many people are into MWO.

Ohhh okay okay. Thankyou so I'll respect that, I like this, how ever the 3 additional links don't work so I can't see the work you put into it; just takes to the main page.

I wish I could see the dates; and while without any sources I have to assume the numbers are off, but the graph would be relatively accurate.

I can visualize players getting exhausted from the slow beta release, so that graph makes sense to me.

Any dates that correlate to 'disappointing announcements?'

Oops I didn't notice the 2nd quote was also to me.

I accept information relative to gameplay from statistics gathered here; though I believe that information gathered from google search only displays relatively those looking up the game out of interest; which gets lower as core BT fans get 'in the know' about the game. PGI also has no outreach or PR for those without any experience. But that's all speculation.

On the bright side I recently got 3 new people addicted to the game.

Edited by Scarcer, 16 June 2013 - 09:51 PM.

[hammerreborn]

ICEFANG13, on 16 June 2013 - 09:42 PM, said:

How do I lose an argument that in the quote says the game is 100% 1st person, and then says for a long time, and out of the gate, will stay that way. Somehow I don't think you understand what 100% means.

I don't think you know what "investigate" "third person" "distance" "future" "out the gate" means.

Was mwo (and technically still is) 100% first person? Yes!

Is 3rd being investigated in the future (technically it was investigated a couple months back)? Yes!

Was mwo 1st person out the gate and in the near future? Yes!

Are we in the far off distance (one year later)? Yes!

What do you know....third person!

[Hotthedd]

hammerreborn, on 16 June 2013 - 09:37 PM, said:

All of them? I mean you even made up a number of how much you would theoretically spend if mwo catered to your needs and your needs alone.

Ill make the theoretical arrangement that for every one of you idiots that post "id give money but x" I'd give PGI 20 bucks for banning you, since clearly you hate the game so much. Since its not going to happen there's no skin off my back

No. the number od dollars I spent per month was real. (about $30)

The number of months I have NOT spent money due to the 3PV decision is real.

The number of people who responded "NO 3PV" to the poll(s) is real (approx. 3000).

I took 1/3 of that number (1000) to be conservative.

That is how I got my total. You can check the math.

Scarcer, on 16 June 2013 - 09:37 PM, said:

Here I can make up numbers and take myself seriously too.
839 users online.
So # of regular players are 10x as many.

8390

100% spend $50 a month

That's

$419,500 a month.

Somehow 1/3 of the players are alianated, so that must mean they get only

$276,870

sucks for them

But omg, new influx of players

Now we have .5 million players this month.

$250,000,000 woowww

Oh and btw, we know for a fact every single active player visits the forums and participates in all of the polls without ignoring them out of vanity.

My projections are absolutely sound. Beat that.

Get some sleep. You are clearly sleep deprived.

[johnyboy420]

Where do you get theses numbers where more then 66.6%of the player base likes too play this game right now and spends money, more then 70% doesn't play right now from the numbers from open beta being up for 2 weeks you can clearly see that the player count has dropped massively but the game never been doing better according to you then its ever been from what your saying, are you kidding me? Man all play like 2 or 3 different groups over the night win twice and kill 8 man ques but its never been doing better, Rofl gl with that statement.

Edited by johnyboy420, 16 June 2013 - 09:54 PM.

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Scarcer, on 16 June 2013 - 09:47 PM, said:

Ohhh okay okay. Thankyou so I'll respect that, I like this, how ever the 3 additional links don't work so I can't see the work you put into it; just takes to the main page.

I wish I could see the dates; and while without any sources I have to assume the numbers are off, but the graph would be relatively accurate.

I can visualize players getting exhausted from the slow beta release, so that graph makes sense to me.

Any dates that correlate to 'disappointing announcements?'

The largest bumps are from the first showing of mech bay, and then the next one is the next showing of gameplay. The Cicada and Raven-3L have a slight boost as well. All of the info is from the here:
http://mwomercs.com/media/screenshot

Except the last one, which was not around when I made it. I did them in the order I thought was correct, although the numbering was a little strange.

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Hotthedd, on 16 June 2013 - 09:50 PM, said:

No. the number od dollars I spent per month was real. (about $30)

The number of months I have NOT spent money due to the 3PV decision is real.

The number of people who responded "NO 3PV" to the poll(s) is real (approx. 3000).

I took 1/3 of that number (1000) to be conservative.

That is how I got my total. You can check the math.
.

And (other than the amount you spent), aren't all those numbers theoretical? What if only 10% stopped spending money, or even 50%. You don't know, therefore you really should look up the term theoretical.

I for instance haven't spent money in a while because I have nothing to spend it on. Not interested in any hero mechs, have around 30 mech bays (but only actually use my 5 jenners) and nearly every cockpit item, and iirc, 40 paint colors (every single camo color + a bunch of bright ones my wife liked)

johnyboy420, on 16 June 2013 - 09:50 PM, said:

Where do you get theses numbers where more then 66.6%of the player base likes too play this game right now and spends money, more then 70% doesn't play right now from the numbers from open beta being up for 2 weeks you can clearly see that the player count has dropped massively but the game never been doing better according to you then its ever been from what your saying, are you kidding me? Man all play like 2 or 3 different groups over the night win twice and kill 8 man ques but its never been doing better, Rofl gl with that statement.

What's a "theses", and all the various other grammatical and spelling mistakes that makes this post completely unreadable other than "PGI bad because I say so"?

Edited by hammerreborn, 16 June 2013 - 09:58 PM.

[johnyboy420]

I haven't spent money in this game for 5 months waiting for pgi too fix this mech 4 meta and I know tons of units that boomed now only too be a ghost town but it's fine they won't screw this game like they did with duke nukem forever if I knew pgi made that game or had a part in it I'd never would never founded this game

[Scarcer]

Hotthedd, on 16 June 2013 - 09:50 PM, said:

No. the number od dollars I spent per month was real. (about $30)

The number of months I have NOT spent money due to the 3PV decision is real.

The number of people who responded "NO 3PV" to the poll(s) is real (approx. 3000).

I took 1/3 of that number (1000) to be conservative.

That is how I got my total. You can check the math.

Get some sleep. You are clearly sleep deprived.

Okay, I'll give you props for the effort and will take it into consideration.

Links please.

But you are projecting the same demographic, and only the demographic that replied to those polls; I haven't even seen them.

And to be honest I haven't spent money in two months; but only because the prices are ridiculous.

But again, it's all hypothetical because:

A ) We can't measure the people actually playing/spending
B ) We can't measure the hypothetical increase in players when PR starts
C ) We haven't yet seen the actual product; and peoples reactions will change (Maybe it will be good, maybe contrary to my expectations PGI will implement it horribly and break the game, I don't know, but I'm willing to find out.)

Edited by Scarcer, 16 June 2013 - 10:03 PM.

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hammerreborn, on 16 June 2013 - 09:57 PM, said:

And (other than the amount you spent), aren't all those numbers theoretical? What if only 10% stopped spending money, or even 50%. You don't know, therefore you really should look up the term theoretical.

I for instance haven't spent money in a while because I have nothing to spend it on. Not interested in any hero mechs, have around 30 mech bays (but only actually use my 5 jenners) and nearly every cockpit item, and iirc, 40 paint colors (every single camo color + a bunch of bright ones my wife liked)

Theoretical does not mean "Made-up" as you originally claimed.

The ONLY number that is theoretical is the 33% estimate of the (quantifiable) 3000+.

I believe it to be a CONSERVATIVE estimate.

[Scarcer]

ICEFANG13, on 16 June 2013 - 09:51 PM, said:

The largest bumps are from the first showing of mech bay, and then the next one is the next showing of gameplay. The Cicada and Raven-3L have a slight boost as well. All of the info is from the here:
http://mwomercs.com/media/screenshot

Except the last one, which was not around when I made it. I did them in the order I thought was correct, although the numbering was a little strange.

Sorry I have a tendency to post my replies before making changes, read it over again.

[ICEFANG13]

Hammer and Scarcer, does it not concern you that as the 2 current defenders of PGI actions, you yourselves aren't spending any money? I mean there's only 5 of us, but we all have reasons why this game is lacking don't we?