16 replies to this topic

[buttmonkey]

too many sales being pushed down our throats, surely these people could be laid off in favor of hiring more devs, MOAR DEVS!!

[Soy]

lol @ name

Edited by Soy, 16 June 2013 - 12:44 PM.

[Zerberus]

Does PGI have someone behind you with a gun to your head, or how exactly are these being "forced down our throats"? Last I checked, it`s still my decision whether to purchase or not....

BTW: No revenue = no salaries = no devs.

2 arguments, and 2 major logical flaws that have no significant basis in reality.....

If you don`t like what they offer, don`t pay for it. If you don`t like the game and have no hope for the future, making it a complete waste of your time, don`t play it.

It really is that simple.

Edited by Zerberus, 16 June 2013 - 12:53 PM.

[buttmonkey]

Zerberus, on 16 June 2013 - 12:48 PM, said:

Does PGI have someone behind you with a gun to your head, or how exactly are these being "forced down our throats"? Last I checked, it`s still my decision whether to purchase or not....

BTW: No revenue = no salaries = no devs.

2 arguments, and 2 major logical flaws that have no significant basis in reality.....

If you don`t like what they offer, don`t pay for it. If you don`t like the game and have no hope for the future, making it a complete waste of your time, don`t play it.

It really is that simple.

well i could use your logic and say no players equals no money for pgi, constantly pushing back deadlines causes players to give up and quit so instead of having so many sales for a ever decreasing player base, they should spend their money on hiring more devs to bring out content faster, therefore increasing their player base and sales.

on a similar note, the fact there are so many sales tells anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together that the standard price is way too high. essentially the sales team is obsolete, as all pgi needs to do is lower their prices across the board and they would see a massive increase in spending from the playerbase, therefore making sales obsolete.

as far as im concerned they are being pushed on us as you cant log into the forums or even the game without seeing sales, i mean seriously when you og into the game the majority of the screen is sales with a tiny box in the corner with your mechs and and a small side secton with news flashes, the homepage is little more than a billboard.

with regards to your typical, dont like it dont play attitude, im not playing, havnt been for weeks, and havnt spent a penny on the game in months and will not until we see more content. and i dont mean more mechs as they are not more content imo. i mean things like CW, clans, knockdowns, dropship mode, unique pilot trees etc etc. things that we should have already

[Pater Mors]

buttmonkey, on 16 June 2013 - 02:32 PM, said:

well i could use your logic and say no players equals no money for pgi, constantly pushing back deadlines causes players to give up and quit so instead of having so many sales for a ever decreasing player base, they should spend their money on hiring more devs to bring out content faster, therefore increasing their player base and sales.

on a similar note, the fact there are so many sales tells anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together that the standard price is way too high. essentially the sales team is obsolete, as all pgi needs to do is lower their prices across the board and they would see a massive increase in spending from the playerbase, therefore making sales obsolete.

as far as im concerned they are being pushed on us as you cant log into the forums or even the game without seeing sales, i mean seriously when you og into the game the majority of the screen is sales with a tiny box in the corner with your mechs and and a small side secton with news flashes, the homepage is little more than a billboard.

with regards to your typical, dont like it dont play attitude, im not playing, havnt been for weeks, and havnt spent a penny on the game in months and will not until we see more content. and i dont mean more mechs as they are not more content imo. i mean things like CW, clans, knockdowns, dropship mode, unique pilot trees etc etc. things that we should have already

Yeah because making aggressive, less than useless suggestions on the forums is the way to get exactly what you want out of this game and in life.

Everyone knows if you don't like the Government or a corporations business practices, you just go and make inane, nonsensical complaints on their forums and everything gets fixed.

[buttmonkey]

Pater Mors, on 16 June 2013 - 02:39 PM, said:

Yeah because making aggressive, less than useless suggestions on the forums is the way to get exactly what you want out of this game and in life.

Everyone knows if you don't like the Government or a corporations business practices, you just go and make inane, nonsensical complaints on their forums and everything gets fixed.

perhaps i should have made this another totally usefull poll then or maybe a petition

quick edit. im serious about the post, why do they need a sales team if the game is just a "beta" as so many claim? i think the sales team just make sales to justify their pay check. i repeat what i said before- lower the prices across the board and pgi wouldnt even need a sales team as the merchandise would sell itself

Edited by buttmonkey, 16 June 2013 - 02:57 PM.

[Pater Mors]

buttmonkey, on 16 June 2013 - 02:54 PM, said:

perhaps i should have made this another totally usefull poll then or maybe a petition

quick edit. im serious about the post, why do they need a sales team if the game is just a "beta" as so many claim? i think the sales team just make sales to justify their pay check. i repeat what i said before- lower the prices across the board and pgi wouldnt even need a sales team as the merchandise would sell itself

As serious as you might be, it doesn't make your OP any less nonsense.

While I might agree with you that the prices are too high across the board, the way you've decided to put it across is rubbish and useless and you have no justification for demanding the loss of someone's job.

[Zerberus]

Pater Mors, on 16 June 2013 - 03:02 PM, said:

While I might agree with you that the prices are too high across the board, the way you've decided to put it across is rubbish and useless and you have no justification for demanding the loss of someone's job.

The bolded and underlined part is the important part.

If every customer that was unhappy with a business`performance had the right to demand people`s futures getting destroyed, we would either still be in 1795, or we would all be speaking German now. The irony being it`s a german national and an expatriated american in Germany telling you this in no uncertain terms...

STOCKHOLDERS don`t even have that luxury unless they own a significant portion. What makes you think that you as a customer, with an aggressive and to be honest downright insulting (to PGI) post have that right?

buttmonkey, on 16 June 2013 - 02:54 PM, said:

quick edit. im serious about the post, why do they need a sales team if the game is just a "beta" as so many claim? i think the sales team just make sales to justify their pay check. i repeat what i said before- lower the prices across the board and pgi wouldnt even need a sales team as the merchandise would sell itself

Ypou said nothing of the sort. You DEMANDED that people in sales be terminated from employment, specifically because the game dev team is not performing up to your standards. Do you honestly think people are too stupid to scroll up half a page to see that?

I don`t know what company you work for (assuming you are emplosyd somewhere), but as a non paying customer I demand that people in your department be terminated because I am not satisfied with the work of other departments.....

How does that shoe fit now?

Edited by Zerberus, 16 June 2013 - 03:41 PM.

[Dan Nashe]

I am willing to bet money the sales are responsible for more revenue than the amount of paid-time used to produce the sales.
Which probably amount to a weekly meeting, and a couple hours to draft it and tweak their tools to change prices.

And JC Penny proved that sales sell :-).
Lowering prices across the board by 10% is considered a bad decision vs. having weekly sales of 30-50% off on random stuff.

There is a very good reason to not have amazing sales every week. How many people bought the YLW for 50% off because they might not see that sale again for a year? If they had MC sales every 3 months, no one would ever buy ANYTHING at full price because they would wait for the reliable, every 3 month sales, and they would buy less during the sales because they would know they could just wait a couple months and it would be on sale again.

Similarly, once a year MC sales are motivating because "if you don't buy it now, you might not get another opportunity."
TL;DR, OP's name is telling.
[Ok, that's not really meant to attack the post. It's meant to attack the name. Stupid internet handles and character names are a pet peeve of mine. The actual post isn't that bad.]

[Deathlike]

I would like to fire the person that drew the small pic that says "NEW CONTROL OPTIONS" with the /// and \\\ all over that text.

Did they simply run out of ideas? It would just be easier to repeat what "teh Donald" says on his show.

[buttmonkey]

the trolls here are missing the point entirely as usual. who do you think came up with the original prces- the sales team. they put the prices way too high to begin with, then they make sales to boost purchases and say look our sales are working, therefore justifying their own jobs. then they carry on making sales. it makes no sense to me what so ever.

if the sales team had started with the right price in the first place then there would be no need for sales at all would there?
i think sales are actually counter productive. they give only small bursts of sales for specific things.
so if theres a sale on mechs, more mechs get sold, sale on mc, more mc gets sold.

the underlying factor here is that people are willing to buy when the cost is reasonable. so all they need to do is half all the prices in game, then the merchandse will fly off the shelves, as the sales have proven.

there s no need for a sales team, end of story.

[Mike Forst]

I disagree OP

[buttmonkey]

Mike Forst, on 17 June 2013 - 08:59 AM, said:

I disagree OP

like you would ever agree lol

[Mike Forst]

Well yeah I'm biased

[Hammerfinn]

Yes, absolutely, what we need is a game that makes LESS money so it can be ground into the dirt before it reaches its full potential. Fantastic idea. Obviously, you know a lot about sales and marketing, and how that works and what you need to do to make money with a game. It's amazing that they didn't think of this themselves!

[buttmonkey]

lol you people really make me laugh. you argue against your own arguements saying stupid things like the guy above. sales generate more money as you have all agreed precisely because people are willing to spend when the product is at a lower price. so how on earth is lowering the prices permenantly going to reduce income? it wont lol at all.
keeping prices too high so that you can deliberately lower them once in a while creates a false economy.

its funny how all you sit there telling me i know nothing of sales, and then pretending as though you do, when in fact none of know what my job is and none of you have revealed what your jobs are.
so as far as im concerned you could all be sitting there on the doll with no idea whatsoever about anything, while i could actualy be working for a marketting company. the fact is you dont know.

not that i mind mindless insulting posts, they just serve as a bump imo. again kind of shooting yourselves in the foot there arent you? bit like "i totally dissagree with your stupid dumb post, its so stupid im going to bump it for you derrr"

anyway i stand by my opinion the sales team is worthless. we all know now that there was what around 5mill dollars generated from founders packs alone. where did that go? thats right! straight to mechwarrior tactics! and you guys will prolly still keep paying money into mwo even though its being bled off to to other games. fact of the matter is, if pgi keep screwing over their customers like this then stuffing more sales in their faces to try and milk more fom this nearly belly up cash cow, then there will 0+ players to buy anything.
so like i said before, get rid of the sales team, sell them to china or w/e just do whatever neccesary to complete this game with no more delays.

cos believe me when games like star citizen launch, this one will be abandoned if it is in its current state -mechCOD online

[Hammerfinn]

you should change your name to buttHURTmonkey