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Shadow Hawk: The One We Have Vs The One We'll See


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#1 Hexenhammer

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 02:48 PM

The Shadow Hawk comes with.
AC/5
LRM 5
SRM 2
Medium Laser

It will be l be ran with
ER/PPCs
Gauss Rifles
AC/20

5 tons heavier than the HBK with no large RT hump, and it can jump.

The Unsee/Reseen. Its always been about nastolgia, never about the loadouts.

#2 GODzillaGSPB

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:00 PM

So...?

Liberal hardpoint system. Blame PGI, they decided this. Or if this is not a complain then...let's be fair and say that the standard configuration of the Shadow Hawk is what seems to me the most under-gunned mech ever lol. :(

An ac/20 might be the gun I'd like to run it with. I mean if I buy the pack at all. PGI has two patches to convince me.

#3 LauLiao

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:10 PM

View PostGODzillaGSPB, on 26 June 2013 - 03:00 PM, said:

let's be fair and say that the standard configuration of the Shadow Hawk is what seems to me the most under-gunned mech ever lol. :(


I'd like to introduce you to my friend the Ostscout 7K.

#4 ryoma

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:25 PM

Let's not forget all the better hard point lay outs the non Phoenix will have!

#5 Urdnot Mau

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 05:35 PM

View PostLauLiao, on 26 June 2013 - 03:10 PM, said:


I'd like to introduce you to my friend the Ostscout 7K.


that is so true.
here's what i've been thinking.
Large laser
AC/ 10
3 ssrm
stock engine or maybe a big xl
jj if possible.

not too hot, not too fragile, not too slow and super fricking cool.
Also, the dual AC/ 5 build is a wrecking machine ! don't forget that...

#6 TehSBGX

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 07:32 PM

I'll Prolly go Dual AC/5. It would likely be a pretty nice fire support mech.

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 02:39 AM

View PostLauLiao, on 26 June 2013 - 03:10 PM, said:


I'd like to introduce you to my friend the Ostscout 7K.


He's a scout, deal with...kidding. :D Yeah, for a 35 ton mech this one seems particulary gimped. :D On the other hand it is really meant as a pure scout, whilst the Shadow Hawk should be a fighting mech. :P

Edited by GODzillaGSPB, 27 June 2013 - 02:46 AM.


#8 Gallowglas

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:09 AM

Just wait for the Charger ;)

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 09:42 AM

ER-PPC
2x SSRM-2
AC/20 or Gauss

...

Won't fit on a 55 Ton mech and do well, at all.

Probably see more PPC/ERPPC + UAC/5 builds than PPC/ERPPC + Gauss

#10 egreSS

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 12:54 AM

The one we have should have been an SHD-2Hb

The 2Hb on the other hand sacks one of the 3 missile hard-points for a much needed additional energy point.

Edited by egreSS, 14 July 2013 - 12:57 AM.


#11 Donnie Silveray

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 09:56 AM

I highly doubt the mech will do terribly well with an AC20 or a gauss rifle and expect to have much else to use. It'd be a slightly more flexible Hunchback, and even then I see more swaybacks than I see hunchbacks.

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 10:25 AM

View PostHexenhammer, on 26 June 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

The Shadow Hawk comes with.
AC/5
LRM 5
SRM 2
Medium Laser

It will be l be ran with
ER/PPCs
Gauss Rifles
AC/20

5 tons heavier than the HBK with no large RT hump, and it can jump.

The Unsee/Reseen. Its always been about nastolgia, never about the loadouts.


Doubt we will see those builds often. AC/20 for example pretty much effectively takes up almost all the available weight in the mech becuase it will require a standard engine. Guass can be run with an XL but still takes up quite a bit of weight.

I think most will have balanced builds such as a ER PPC, AC/5, 3 streak build or something similar.

As far as the ones we haven't seen yet. I expect they wil actually be the one that will offer the most flexibility, with each probably having several more Energy mounts thus allowing a much more flexible and effective build.

Edited by Viktor Drake, 14 July 2013 - 10:26 AM.


#13 Josef Nader

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 03:43 PM

I plan on Large Laser + AC 10 for the brunt of the firepower. Back it up with a few small missiles (either LRM 5s or SRM4s) and get it going ~100kph. It'll make a decent mid-range skirmisher, IMHO. We just have to do something about the insta-kill meta and make whittling opponents down through superior mobility viable.

#14 MacKoga

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 06:46 PM

I'm tempted at the though of having a YLW with JJs.

#15 Felicitatem Parco

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 06:52 PM

This thread is being Jettisoned; This thread is a complaint thread, and was not intended to be a productive discussion.

If you would like to seriously discuss the current in-game trend of High-Alpha Sniping, then you may wish to visit the Gameplay Balance section of the forums, where many discussions exist regarding that issue. You may also create your own thread if you want to generate a discussion about an issue or a perspective on an issue that is not already being represented. If you wish to create a productive discussion regarding the upcoming Phoenix Mechs, then you may do so in either the Upcoming features section but also the Mechs and Loadouts section if you're intention is to discuss Loadouts on particular Phoenix Mechs.

#16 TehSBGX

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 06:55 PM

I'm loading mine up with SRMS. Since Artemis isn't even worth using on srms anymore, double srm6 in the torso srm 4 in the head and go nuts.

#17 PanzerMagier

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 06:23 PM

I'm personally looking forward to load it with 3 machine guns and some other missiles and lasers. A better 4G IMO.

#18 Steve Varayis

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 02:51 AM

gonna run a stock version

#19 PanzerMagier

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 09:16 AM

I don't like stock versions most of the time.



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