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Novice Gamer Help
Started by kimbers, Jun 22 2013 03:42 PM
11 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 22 June 2013 - 03:42 PM
Ok I know nothing about PCs but I love the mechwarrior universe
want to know what upgrades to make my pc run the game better
windows 7 pro 64bit
intel xeon E5530, 2.4 ghz (not in the list of supported cpus but lower spec one are so this is ok?)
6gb RAM, (plenty of room to upgrade, is it worth going up to 10?)
NVIDIA Quadro NVS 295 (I think this is where Im falling down)
so what graphics card should I be looking at probably secondhand off ebay ?
cheers
kimbers
want to know what upgrades to make my pc run the game better
windows 7 pro 64bit
intel xeon E5530, 2.4 ghz (not in the list of supported cpus but lower spec one are so this is ok?)
6gb RAM, (plenty of room to upgrade, is it worth going up to 10?)
NVIDIA Quadro NVS 295 (I think this is where Im falling down)
so what graphics card should I be looking at probably secondhand off ebay ?
cheers
kimbers
#2
Posted 23 June 2013 - 04:48 AM
a used GTX560Ti is a good start
seems like your PC is actually a rendering PC based on the CPU and GPU
seems like your PC is actually a rendering PC based on the CPU and GPU
#3
Posted 26 June 2013 - 07:43 AM
Your CPU is actually quite handy.
It's roughly equivalent to an i7-920. The 920 has a higher base clock (2.66GHz vs 2.4GHz) but worse throughput (4.8GT/s vs 5.86GT/s). Both are socket 1366 CPU's.
The E5530 is really a server CPU that can take 144GB RAM (vs 24GB for the 920) and lower TDP of 80W vs 130W making it easier to cool. You can even run a pair of E5530's if your motherboard can take it!
E5530 - http://ark.intel.com...6-GTs-Intel-QPI
i7-920 - http://ark.intel.com...0-GTs-Intel-QPI
As Dragoon suggests your PC has been setup as a CAD/CAM/Rendering PC with the NVS 295 being a relatively low-end CAD card.
Many CAD graphics cards don't need extra power direct from the PSU so you might need adapters to enable you to use better consumer-level cards.
It's roughly equivalent to an i7-920. The 920 has a higher base clock (2.66GHz vs 2.4GHz) but worse throughput (4.8GT/s vs 5.86GT/s). Both are socket 1366 CPU's.
The E5530 is really a server CPU that can take 144GB RAM (vs 24GB for the 920) and lower TDP of 80W vs 130W making it easier to cool. You can even run a pair of E5530's if your motherboard can take it!
E5530 - http://ark.intel.com...6-GTs-Intel-QPI
i7-920 - http://ark.intel.com...0-GTs-Intel-QPI
As Dragoon suggests your PC has been setup as a CAD/CAM/Rendering PC with the NVS 295 being a relatively low-end CAD card.
Many CAD graphics cards don't need extra power direct from the PSU so you might need adapters to enable you to use better consumer-level cards.
#4
Posted 26 June 2013 - 07:55 AM
If you do a fair amount of CAD/rendering/etc and don't use CUDA and have a company you can get a W7000 for half off retail ($700/2=$350) right now and it will play games to boot.
#5
Posted 26 June 2013 - 08:01 AM
Depending on what graphics card you get, you might need to also upgrade your power supply.
As far as ram goes, 6 gigs is plenty if you're just playing MWO with some videos or music streaming in the background.
With Nvidia announcing the GTX 7xx gpus, there might be some GTX 6xx gpus on ebay for a reasonable price here pretty soon. I'd stick to a GTX 660 or higher. My single GTX 680 crushes MWO at 80 fps on ultra, but it gets real hot. You might want to consider another case fan as well.
As far as ram goes, 6 gigs is plenty if you're just playing MWO with some videos or music streaming in the background.
With Nvidia announcing the GTX 7xx gpus, there might be some GTX 6xx gpus on ebay for a reasonable price here pretty soon. I'd stick to a GTX 660 or higher. My single GTX 680 crushes MWO at 80 fps on ultra, but it gets real hot. You might want to consider another case fan as well.
#6
Posted 26 June 2013 - 07:06 PM
hate to say this but all CAD GPU esp the Quadro do need a dedicated 12V 6 pin PCI-E power rail to power the GPU
they will need at least 160W or more drawing power from the PSU so you will need to spend a good sum on a 700W PSU at least when it is on full load
they will need at least 160W or more drawing power from the PSU so you will need to spend a good sum on a 700W PSU at least when it is on full load
#7
Posted 26 June 2013 - 08:43 PM
Dragoon20005, on 26 June 2013 - 07:06 PM, said:
hate to say this but all CAD GPU esp the Quadro do need a dedicated 12V 6 pin PCI-E power rail to power the GPU
they will need at least 160W or more drawing power from the PSU so you will need to spend a good sum on a 700W PSU at least when it is on full load
they will need at least 160W or more drawing power from the PSU so you will need to spend a good sum on a 700W PSU at least when it is on full load
Ummm, Sir....how does this hold any water to my i5-3570K (4.2GHz) and the Asus DCII 580 GTX (factory OC´d ) running off of an 550 W PSU ? ^^
Quality, guys, not quantity.
#8
Posted 26 June 2013 - 09:23 PM
i have a 5770 and it runs this game above 30 fps on customized high/max settings.
so for around 150$ you should be able to get something 2-3 times better than that on ebay.
so for around 150$ you should be able to get something 2-3 times better than that on ebay.
#9
Posted 26 June 2013 - 10:48 PM
Rad Hanzo, on 26 June 2013 - 08:43 PM, said:
Ummm, Sir....how does this hold any water to my i5-3570K (4.2GHz) and the Asus DCII 580 GTX (factory OC´d ) running off of an 550 W PSU ? ^^
Quality, guys, not quantity.
maybe for one Geforce GPU but you are forgetting we are talking about the professional CAD GPUs
these baby run very hot and need tons of power
workstations have 1000W PSU as standard to supply power to 2xQuadro 6000s
#10
Posted 27 June 2013 - 05:10 AM
The OP's NVS 295 isn't a cad GPU, it's a "business productivity" card for multi displays. It uses the same G98 GPU as the Geforce 8400, and draws about 25w of power.
#11
Posted 27 June 2013 - 09:19 AM
red stapler, on 27 June 2013 - 05:10 AM, said:
The OP's NVS 295 isn't a cad GPU, it's a "business productivity" card for multi displays. It uses the same G98 GPU as the Geforce 8400, and draws about 25w of power.
Oh... a bit of an odd choice to pair with a xeon then, in that case, the fastest GPU you can get that doesn't require a 6 pin connector is the HD7750 I believe. You could also use the GTX650 (not the Ti version).
#12
Posted 27 June 2013 - 05:14 PM
if it is a workstation PC
i do believe it got a decent PSU in it to power a bigger GPU
just need to look for this in the PC or buy a converter
i do believe it got a decent PSU in it to power a bigger GPU
just need to look for this in the PC or buy a converter
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