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#21 Kissamies

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 01:52 PM

Heh, I don't care about the Battlemaster at all. Assaults? Everyone plays them anyways. I mostly care about the Shadow Hawk. I don't expect Locust to be very good, but it's iconic and I like piloting lights. T-bolt is somewhat interesting too, but not interesting enough for me to get it as phoenix mech, I think. I don't care about premium time either, so it was storm tier for me.

If there's a patch that really improves the game, I might upgrade a lever or maybe even two at later date.

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 02:06 PM

Well I am definately surprised at the amount of people that went Overlord but not just because of the Battlemaster. I am still on the Fence myself. If the package was available immediately or even next month, it would be a slam dunk but 3.5...Ouch.

Still the only two I am really interested in is the T-bolt and BM but only because the poor hardpoint layout. If they would have just put one more energy hardpoint on the arm so I could have paired a set of LLs or MPLs there, I would have been completely sold on it.

#23 Cairbre

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 02:54 PM

The thing is, the Battlemaster is not only the biggest, baddest mech, but the most recently released artwork. It is also the best value- it would take WAY more C-bills or money to buy 3 Battlemasters than 3 Thunderbolts- and I shudder to think about how much you would overpay for the triple locust at the 20 dollar point. This is a very cunningly crafted sale. Each tier offers more raw mech value, and then has the premium time heaped on top of it. Because of that, it really doesn't make much sense for anyone purchasing the Shadowhawk not to upgrade, or the Thud to not go all the way, unless you really detest assault mechs and battlemasters. I'm far more impressed with the Thud, myself, but I'm already forking out 60 for it... so I will probably still go full Overload because 20 bucks for 3 assaults is a steal, whatever they are.

#24 Eric darkstar Marr

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 03:00 PM

The only one I am not super stoked about is the shadowhawk but I was a wolverine guy so yeah. The Locust is awesome but unless it is smaller then the commando it will not be worth its speedy chick legs. Thunder and Battle yep those are perfect so far just hope they get the Locust right.

#25 Hawkeye 72

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 03:05 PM

View PostNgamok, on 29 June 2013 - 11:50 AM, said:

They just want to throw in 7 PPCs.


False. And here are ten reasons why:

1) Hanse Davion ripped off a Scorpion leg and beat a mech to death with it while piloting his Battlemaster.
2) The name: Battlemaster. It is a master of battle.
3) It kicked my *** the first time I faced one in MW2: 31st Century Combat.
4) It's a reseen battlemech, and I am a mechbay hoarder
5) It was one of the few assault mechs in the original tabletop game and my personal favorite
6) 7 PPC's will more than likely cross the threshold of "law of diminishing returns"
7) Takashi Kurita, Wayne Waco, and the Red Corsair also piloted this mech
8) It's on the cover of The Sword and the Dagger, the second Battletech novel ever published
9) The metagame changes every month, and I have no doubt boat-mechs will be nerfed
10) Alex Iglesias knows how to redesign a mech

#26 Bagheera

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 03:07 PM

I want the Battlemaster because Battlemaster, but I'll likely spend more time in the Thunderbolt and Shadowhawk.

:unsure:

Edited by Bagheera, 29 June 2013 - 03:08 PM.


#27 Sephlock

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 03:10 PM

I'm looking forward to all of them, but to be honest I only want the Locust for the novelty- it looks like a damn jenner, and due to machineguns being poopy, it will be too.

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 03:13 PM

Im buying Overlord but am looking forward to all 4 platforms ... I play all weight classes and am above average to damn good on all of them. Its all about knowing how to pilot with the different layouts.

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 03:15 PM

Light and Assault class just don't fit my play style. I need a mech big enough to mount an autocannon while still maintaining reliable speed. That's why I love my Pract's and my Cicada. I know I want the Shadow Hawk but I'm still debating whether or not to go the extra 20 for the Thunderbolt.

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 03:59 PM

View PostViktor Drake, on 29 June 2013 - 11:16 AM, said:

I have been spending quite a bit of time viewing this section of the forum, looking for new discussions or comments about the Thunderbolt and Shadow Hawk but for the past two days, none have made the front page.

Guess the Battlemaster is the only one anyone is interested in and I guess it goes to show why it is only available at the $80 Overlord package hehe. Wonder how many people are buying the Overlord for the sole reason that it is the only way to get the Phoenix Battlemaster?


What you are saying is everybody that want to buy the phoenix project is here on the forum and they are going to buy the 80 dollars package because all of them only cares about 1 mech. So, phoenix project will be a total failure, since the number of active players at the forum is nowhere near the actual number of players, and also different from the number of players that are going to buy any of those packages. If you want to be better informed about what's coming out of this phoenix project and the opinion on the general public and the buying public, create a pool, rather than creating flawed assumptions.

#31 Kiiyor

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 05:41 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 29 June 2013 - 12:08 PM, said:

CheezeRus [BLR-1G]: 7xPPC, 300XL, DHS, Endo

Please let them do it. One trigger pull and the heat will destroy their IS.


SWEET JESUS.

That... Has decent armour and speed, and that alpha!

...While I do appreciate horrendous firepower, nothing sucks more than being effectively taken out of the fight in one hit. I spend the majority of a match cowering behind cover as it is. Just knowing there are pathetic degenerate scum out there who would gleefully run that (myself probably included) makes me want to hang up my spurs.

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 05:44 PM

with the changes to MG im actually curious about the locus, the thunderbolt seems interseting and i can do some good things with the shadow hawk.

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 05:48 PM

My current favorite mech is my 4MG 1Flamer pink spider, nothing embarrasses an assault more than being taken down by it. Locust all the way, real light pilots know that annoyance factor is far more important than load out. Chase me around while I cackle madly and your buddies die:)

#34 Jenkss

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 06:06 PM

View PostViktor Drake, on 29 June 2013 - 11:16 AM, said:

I have been spending quite a bit of time viewing this section of the forum, looking for new discussions or comments about the Thunderbolt and Shadow Hawk but for the past two days, none have made the front page.

Guess the Battlemaster is the only one anyone is interested in and I guess it goes to show why it is only available at the $80 Overlord package hehe. Wonder how many people are buying the Overlord for the sole reason that it is the only way to get the Phoenix Battlemaster?


Sorry but just because I don't post thread after thread about my preferred mechs doesn't mean I am not looking forward to them.

I cannot wait for the Locust. It's going to be great fun.

I'm also looking forward to the Shadow Hawk.

I probably won't pilot the other 2.

I might dabble but I doubt I'll go too hard into them. Heavies and Assaults generally don't do it for me.

#35 Roger Wildcat

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 06:17 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 29 June 2013 - 12:08 PM, said:

CheezeRus [BLR-1G]: 7xPPC, 300XL, DHS, Endo

Please let them do it. One trigger pull and the heat will destroy their IS.


I would suggest that you remove a ton of armor off the useless left arm, and put a double heat sink onto the right arm.

#36 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 06:27 PM

View PostRoger Wildcat, on 29 June 2013 - 06:17 PM, said:


I would suggest that you remove a ton of armor off the useless left arm, and put a double heat sink onto the right arm.

One DHS ain't gonna make a lick of difference. But that "useless" left arm can still act like a shield (I'm a Centy pilot at heart) and that armor can absorb an Alpha meant for my tender torso. With damage being HALVED when transferred, it is quiet useful, actually.

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 07:16 PM

View PostUrdnot Mau, on 29 June 2013 - 03:59 PM, said:


What you are saying is everybody that want to buy the phoenix project is here on the forum and they are going to buy the 80 dollars package because all of them only cares about 1 mech. So, phoenix project will be a total failure, since the number of active players at the forum is nowhere near the actual number of players, and also different from the number of players that are going to buy any of those packages. If you want to be better informed about what's coming out of this phoenix project and the opinion on the general public and the buying public, create a pool, rather than creating flawed assumptions.


Your reading way too much into my post. I was just making an observation.

When the Locust came out there were a few thread but they rapidly vanished. When SH came out, alot more threads but still vanished pretty quickly, the T-bolt came and went in a flash. Now we have the BM and the thread don't seem to stop. That and only that is the basis of my observation. I didn't really feel it rated a poll to be honest.

#38 Risko Vinsheen

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 10:26 PM

I'm excited for all four.

Locust - One of my favorite mechs to pilot is my Spider. I love the speed and being so hard to hit. I'm hoping the Locust will have speed and maneuverability in a tiny package. Even if it won't cause a whole lot of damage it will still be fun and useful to zip in on an Assault with exposed internals and rip it to shreds with machine guns, then zip away before it has a chance to put its reticle on me.

Shadow Hawk - My mechbays are filled mostly with Mediums. The Centurion is the only chassis I've actually Mastered, and I've Elited Trebuchets and working on doing the same with Blackjacks. I've been known to have some crazy matches in my Centurions. I look forward to doing the same in the Shadow Hawk.

Thunderbolt - The hardpoints on it look rather interesting, and while slow heavies aren't really my thing I'm willing to try it out. Been trying to get used to mechs with slower speeds than my Mediums.

Battlemaster - I geeked out upon seeing the Battlemaster listed among the four because of all of them I'd consider it the most iconic. Sure it'll pack a hefty punch but I'm more interested in the fact I'll get to pilot a freaking Battlemaster. As I said above I'm trying to get more used to slower/heavier mechs... and I've got no doubts that the Battlemaster will be worth taking the time to get used to.

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 10:37 PM

The Shadow Hawk is somewhat interesting, tought is suffer from the fatal flaw of being a medium.


Overall, you're right. When I think about the phoenix pack, the BLR would be 75% of the reason I'd buy it. But I haven't decided yet to buy it, because it would come out about the same time as Clan Mechs, and there's a pretty high chance the BLR would be underwhelming compared to them. XL engines that don't break when you lose a side torso and 2 slot DHS? Quitte a massive advantage even if both IS and Clan end up using the same weapons.

Edited by Shadowsword8, 29 June 2013 - 10:38 PM.


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Posted 29 June 2013 - 10:50 PM

Plus, if you buy Overlord and elite them all, plus master at least one of each, you probably won't need to buy a single additional mech until the Orion comes...





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