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[MasterGoa]

How about you fix match making and ELO before asking for
Founder's program V 2.0???

[TungstenWall]

What is wrong with ELO? I would love to know how YOU would fix it. I assume it needs more players in MM, and will be turned on its head when 12v12 comes out, BUT PLEASE, Do tell us how you would 'fix' ELO.

[Rattazustra]

Bah, screw ELO. Fix this first:

1. If a player disconnects before the match even starts -> REPLACE HIM RIGHT AWAY! With an equal or slightly higher ELO player on waiting queue.
2. If a player disconnects within the first minute -> Replace him right away with an equal or lower ELO player.
3. Always even out the number of premade groups in a match, if possible. This pretty much eliminates synchdrops as well.

That would fix the worst of balance issues.

As far as ELO is concerned, I can tell you at least one thing that needs to be fixed:

No matter how much or how little the ELO score of the players may be, NEVER give one team 100+ tons more than the other. Player skill can fix a lot but even skill doesn't let 5 mediums prevail against 5 heavies or 5 heavies prevail against 5 assaults, which is what 100 tons more or less results in.

Still, most of all they should fix the disconnect problem. If they cannot find any way to add someone retrospectively to fill such a gap, at least kick the lowest ELO player on the other team to even the score a bit. Sure, it will **** off that player a little bit, but it won't happen a lot. And if it does it only means your netcode is broken.

[MasterGoa]

Those are good points Ratta.

I cannot tell you how I would fix ELO as I have no idea
how it is coded.

However, I am so sick and tired of being matched with newbies
it's not even funny...

Again yesterday, I was in 4 matched where people are asking
basic questions about the game... I have 2.3 million XP experience...
Why am I being matched with people 5-10 matches in?

The result?

http://img.photobuck...1b.jpg~original

Normally, that's fine. But I have dozens of screen shots like this every since
print screen works in full screen mode...

Edited by MasterGoa, 28 June 2013 - 05:20 AM.

[MoonUnitBeta]

Dear MasterGoa,

I'm writing to you because I've read one of your recent thread creation. I'm displeased to tell you that you fail to understand those who tune things such as netcode, matchmaking, weapon balance, mech balance, and so on so forth are not the same people who concept mechs, texture, model, and animate them. I'm pleased to announce, however, that the matchmaker is in working order and nothing is wrong with ELO. If you would like to file a complaint or have noticed some serious flaws other than the odd imbalanced win here or there, then please forward your greivances to: support@mwomercs.com and the people at the receiving end will be more than happy to help you and heed your findings.

Kind regards and best wishes,

- MoonUnitBeta

[Syllogy]

MasterGoa, on 28 June 2013 - 05:15 AM, said:

Those are good points Ratta.

I cannot tell you how I would fix ELO as I have no idea
how it is coded.

However, I am so sick and tired of being matched with newbies
it's not even funny...

Again yesterday, I was in 4 matched where people are asking
basic questions about the game... I have 2.3 million XP experience...
Why am I being matched with people 5-10 matches in?

The result?

http://img.photobuck...1b.jpg~original

Normally, that's fine. But I have dozens of screen shots like this every since
print screen works in full screen mode...

I'd like to point out that 3 of the other people on your team are Founders, so they have more than just a few matches under their belt.

Of the other 4, two have been here for nearly 2 years, the other 2 have been here for over a month:

Grayson Pryde Member Since 08 Nov 2011

Nimura Nekogami Member Since 09 Nov 2011

TheDoctor1979 Member Since 23 May 2013

Central Services Member Since 25 May 2013

Furthermore The end result was 8-4, hardly a roll over.

Edited by Syllogy, 28 June 2013 - 07:58 AM.

[TheCas]

screw ELO, its all about the titan mech....where is my dam Titan mech already.....gossssshhhhh!

[Syllogy]

Bump for hilarity. See above post for details.

[MasterGoa]

Guys, I know there are fiunder there, however, in your quest to nothing more than invalidate
my post, two of the players were asking basic how to questions about the game.

So yes, matchmaking is VERY broken and no, it's not the odd game here and there.

The vast majority of games end up 8-0 or at best 8-2.

The VAST majority.

So my argument is valid, I there was more than {Noble MechWarrior} rebuttles...

And this is why I will not buy premium time because it is simply waisted
on a broken matchmaking.

I suspect too little player base, but that would be surprising
as I found little redundancy in the players...

[MoonUnitBeta]

I'm either a really bad player, or I just had someone in my game say "My first game, go easy." whom promptly died, and the game before that a different player spoke "I am noob" after he was killed within the first minute and a half of the game.

Anyways, you are probably right MasterGoa, it's a small player base, but PGI says it's growing. I guess they're not tracking the dates on last active accounts and singling out inactive ones, and only tracking new accounts and the total amounts. I'm expecting, and so is PGI, that the player base will go up after launch in September when PGI starts their major marketing campaign.

Edited by MoonUnitBeta, 02 July 2013 - 06:53 PM.

[Sug]

TungstenWall, on 27 June 2013 - 08:47 PM, said:

What is wrong with ELO? I would love to know how YOU would fix it. I assume it needs more players in MM, and will be turned on its head when 12v12 comes out, BUT PLEASE, Do tell us how you would 'fix' ELO.

Not sure about Elo (not ELO), but the matchmaker currently blows *** because it tries to give pugs a 50/50 win rate. Which is bullshits.

I hate being arbitrarily placed on a team of nubs just because the mm came up 'tails' and it's my turn to lose. Beta sure. Once CW hits there's no way i'm dealing with this 50/50 **** anymore. I'll just sit at my desk and flip a coin.

[MasterGoa]

Well, in all fairness, I do beleive it is getting batter since about 10 days..

But there is still a long way to go....