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[Rawyn]

mike29tw, on 03 July 2013 - 11:20 PM, said:

Watching your favorite franchise stagnate for such a long time with no improvement aside from cockpit items and camo spec every month can be really frustrating.

That's kind of rich, more than 10 years after the last official installement of the MechWarrior series.. At least you're getting something.

Not saying you should be happy with everything they do, and celebrate even the slightest changes, but being super frustrated and showing pure hatred as some seem to do is just not... justified.

[Delas Ting Usee]

jakucha, on 03 July 2013 - 11:47 PM, said:

You're upset. Consider coming back to post when you're more emotionally stable.

Right...this is me calming down. I'm now emotionally stable but you sir, are still a douche.

jakucha, on 03 July 2013 - 11:35 PM, said:

Keep in mind this part of the forum isn't the best place to get an unbiased perspective. People are being silly when they bash a thread for being positive, and propagate the threads that are doing nothing but posting vitriol (before they get sent to k-town anyway).

We're not bashing a thread for being positive, we're informing readers about SOME inaccuracies in the OP's initial statement pertaining to movement.

[Waking One]

Point is by spewing the crap half of the posters on these forums are spewing all the time they are literally making these forums useless for any kind of feedback. "game is **** and pgi is ****" is not any kind of useful feedback, and most of the stuff posted in here is posters trying to make the game suit *their* needs and wants instead of thinking of the best way to balance it for the larger group of people. any kind of balanced post usually ends up drowned in some kind of whine-train and before you blame this on pgi, rethink that, it's been like that for ages. sure most of the posters are passionate and deep down want to see the game succeed... but as usual they're going about it the worst way possible, by ******** up the forums

and before you say positive threads are useless, you must be completely insane if you think posters saying they approve of some changes is worthless

last i checked nobody said the game is perfect

[Valore]

Waking One, on 04 July 2013 - 02:38 AM, said:

last i checked nobody said the game is perfect

[R Razor]

I know it's hard, but try to process that statement using the words IN that statement...............best state to date...........meaning better than it has been in the past...........nowhere does it say it's perfect.

Really, I know reading can be difficult at a young age such as yours, perhaps you should have been educated in a circus by your parents as well, then maybe you'd be better at it.

[Waking One]

Valore, on 04 July 2013 - 02:39 AM, said:

Learn to read maybe? Or did your rage turn your brain to liquid by now?

game *is* in the best state to date, it actually works without crashing like crazy and there's a hud that's actually there and you can actually hit stuff (most of the time, its still off at times). there are problems with balance, yes, but there always were and always will be so i'm not holding my breath too much for it ever being "just right"

i'd love to see you try counter that, should be entertaining

Edited by Waking One, 04 July 2013 - 02:50 AM.

[Valore]

R Razor, on 04 July 2013 - 02:42 AM, said:

I know it's hard, but try to process that statement using the words IN that statement...............best state to date...........meaning better than it has been in the past...........nowhere does it say it's perfect.

Really, I know reading can be difficult at a young age such as yours, perhaps you should have been educated in a circus by your parents as well, then maybe you'd be better at it.

Waking One, on 04 July 2013 - 02:49 AM, said:

Learn to read maybe? Or did your rage turn your brain to liquid by now?

game *is* in the best state to date, it actually works without crashing like crazy and there's a hud that's actually there and you can actually hit stuff (most of the time, its still off at times). there are problems with balance, yes, but there always were and always will be so i'm not holding my breath too much for it ever being "just right"

i'd love to see you try counter that, should be entertaining

Let's see.

3 months ago, HSR working, people actually died when you shot them, games were more varied.

Now, no HSR, hitreg gone to crap, PPC/poptart online.

Apparently best the game's ever been.

I'm sorry mate, my comprehension is just fine. Your inference and conclusion making evidently are shot.

Everyone's entitled to an opinion. But your opinions are kinda crap. Sorry.

Cry all you want about the ones like us who complain. But thank god you people aren't in charge, because the game you seem to be happy with is sorely lacking in many aspects, you just seem incapable of pulling your anatomy out of your ejection tubes to realise that.

Edited by Valore, 04 July 2013 - 02:55 AM.

[R Razor]

Valore, on 04 July 2013 - 02:51 AM, said:

Let's see.

3 months ago, HSR working, people actually died when you shot them, games were more varied.

Now, no HSR, hitreg gone to crap, PPC/poptart online.

Apparently best the game's ever been.

I'm sorry mate, my comprehension is just fine. Your inference and conclusion making evidently are shot.

Everyone's entitled to an opinion. But your opinions are kinda crap. Sorry.

Cry all you want about the ones like us who complain. But thank god you people aren't in charge, because the game you seem to be happy with is sorely lacking in many aspects, you just seem incapable of pulling your anatomy out of your ejection tubes to realise that.

Don't recall saying I was happy, I'm just not running around whining like a dripping **** over a game that's still in beta. There's a difference.

And you can deflect all you want, you attempted to use that twitter post to claim that someone said the game was perfect, they didn't, you were wrong (again, seems like that'd get old but maybe things are different south of the equator) and can't admit it.

And I'll again point out your lack of education, anatomy refers to multiple body parts, of which the "ejection tube(s)" (You have more than 1? Maybe you should get that checked) is a part of..........so again, circus, parents, yadda yadda yadda. (this is almost like shooting fish in a barrel, why can't you be funnier since you can't be smarter???)

Edited by R Razor, 04 July 2013 - 03:05 AM.

[Valore]

You've been here a month. Some of us have been here close to a year or more.


Based on that fact alone, we're likely better placed to say what the trajectory of the game seems to be.

Sorry mate, but I must keep repeating myself to you, since you seem more excited about semantics.

Before: Game Better.

Now: Game Worse.

Dev: Apparently game is in best shape ever.

You: Yeah! Dev speaks truth!

We're both happy to sling insults all day. The difference is I at least like to make coherent arguments once in a while. You prefer to point out the flaws in my insults.

[R Razor]

You're a special kind of dense aren't you? Now your defense is that you've been here longer than I have? You're rapidly devolving to pathetic from sad I gotta tell you.

Follow along, read closely, I'll use small words where possible.

1: A post was made in which a member stated that "last I checked, nobody said the game is perfect".

2: You responded with a tweet in which the statement was made that the game was "in the best state to date" in a vain attempt to show that yes, in fact someone did claim the game was perfect (this was implied based on the fact that you quoted ONLY that statement from the original post you replied to).

3: You were summarily shown to be in error (yet again)

4: You responded as you typically do given your age / intellectual development level (pre-teen is my guess).

5: You were called on your ignorance

6: Now you're resorting to length of time on the forums (and I suspect you'll move on to post counts next)

Hopefully you'll be able to effective process the above and maybe come to understand that despite your founder status, your length of time on the forums and your perceived intellectual superiority, you are wrong in this instance.

[DeathlyEyes]

l3elthaz0r, on 03 July 2013 - 07:31 PM, said:

I still think the movement balance thing needs a little tweaking and getting used to. Like yesterday in Canyon Network. My entire team was in a ditch trying to figure a way out. And we were just getting picked off by the team that figured out how to climb the canyon wall. This will take some getting used to.

Let's discourage PPC boats to make it for easier players to play
Let's increase the learning curve and make it extremely frustrating for new players to learn the maps

[Waking One]

Valore, on 04 July 2013 - 03:15 AM, said:

You've been here a month. Some of us have been here close to a year or more.


Based on that fact alone, we're likely better placed to say what the trajectory of the game seems to be.

Sorry mate, but I must keep repeating myself to you, since you seem more excited about semantics.

Before: Game Better.

Now: Game Worse.

Dev: Apparently game is in best shape ever.

You: Yeah! Dev speaks truth!

We're both happy to sling insults all day. The difference is I at least like to make coherent arguments once in a while. You prefer to point out the flaws in my insults.

Oh wow you're dense. This is hilarious.

Also no, HSR didnt go to ****, it's about as crap as it's always been. You just got used to it. When it first launched everybody was just happy they could hit stuff most of the time for a change.

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

Well, I try to remain optimistic and am eagerly waiting for the PPC (nerf?) changes and SRM (buff?) changes.

I know many people don't think things will change to the better, but well, for me it's the one game I play regularly, even with all its problems.

I just hope there's some really fast progress before launch, because that's when all cards will have to be shown and a bad launch might well be disastrous.

[Valore]

Quote

in·fer

/inˈfər/
Verb
Deduce or conclude (information) from evidence and reasoning rather than from explicit statements.

hy·per·bo·le

/hīˈpərbəlē/
NounExaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally.

People aren't saying 'perfect'. But it must be evident even to you, that some people think the game is going wrong, others think the game is going well.

I'm obviously leaning to the former, you, the latter.

The game has flaws. As I've pointed out, some of these flaws are in fact several steps back from what the game used to be a few months ago.

But, contrary to that, a dev thinks things are better than they've ever been. Pardon us for thinking they're crazy.

Waking One, on 04 July 2013 - 03:26 AM, said:

Oh wow you're dense. This is hilarious.

Also no, HSR didnt go to ****, it's about as crap as it's always been. You just got used to it. When it first launched everybody was just happy they could hit stuff most of the time for a change.

No, its not.

This is why I mentioned how long we've been playing compared to you.

I know you like to assume everyone is as petty as you guys are, but no, it was not an epeen waving exercise.

Pretend you have a graph that shows the results of a test students take over a year.

Now, two people are asked: Are the students getting better results, or worse results?

You are given data only from the month of January. I can see the entire graph.

Who is in a better position to answer that question?

All of us didn't jump in joy and congratulate PGI when PGI first implemented HSR because we were on drugs. The HSR change was a MASSIVE one, one that plenty of us, myself included, thanked them very profusely for.

We didn't all just suddenly go delusional overnight and decide that it suddenly stopped working. If anything, you guys are the ones who have no frame of reference. You have no idea how much better it used to be. So how can you claim we're crying over nothing?

Edited by Valore, 04 July 2013 - 03:43 AM.

[Legend_]

Patch gets the thumbs up from me.

Seeing less assaults in every game and seeing a lot more mediums out and about, hell of a good sign if you ask me.

Does the whole movement deal need to be tweaked? Of course it does, why do you think we're here? This is just a first-pass implementation of a much needed mechanic that will be tweaked and altered as they pull in data and feedback until it gets to the place it should be at.

Has the patch messed up other stuff? Probably a bit, I know I'm getting worse hit reg but I'm not worried, it'll get fixed. Might not be as quick as I like but compared to how this game was when I started playing it, I'd say it IS in the best shape it's every been in (I was in the second day release of closed beta access so I've seen every Beta stage of the game so far, and played each stage a lot, however, my opinion is simply my opinion).

The game is moving in the right direction and as lovely as it would be to have flawless rollouts of patches it's just not going to happen, it rarely happens, in any game but what does happen is the new problems eventually get sorted out and the game keeps moving in that preferable direction the patch intended it to go in.

[Corvus Antaka]

Valore, on 03 July 2013 - 09:40 PM, said:

LOL, enough with the hypocricy already mate. The irony almost hurts.

Dismiss all the 'haters' as trolls, monkeys and whatever snob term you want. That's positivity? You're a joke. If I sound annoyed or angry, its because for once I genuinely am.

Fact of the matter is a lot of us who were the biggest fans and the most excited about this game have come to a point where we're fed up by the lack of changes, regressions in gameplay and frankly inexplicable and illogical way PGI have handled the game.

My friends who have been here all the way from closed beta, who played hours of this game every week, talked about how great it was going to be, and tried our best to believe what PGI was saying, thrown money at it up until a month or two ago, these are the people who are fed up and don't care anymore.

There's only so many times you can fire at an enemy mech, and see it run away without taking damage, then losing the game because of that, before you decide and remember you play games to have fun and relax, not for them to make you angry.

Part of it is burnout, sure. But I guarantee most of it is sheer frustration, mostly due to PGI.

Go ahead, write us off as trolls and whatnots. There's really only one of us that's deluded at this point.

Maybe its time for you to find a new game then if you can't handle it

I havent had no-reg problems in about 2 months, and aside from the pinpoint dmg issue and the lethargic jumpjets the game plays very well these days, and more fixes are coming.

You people are the ones who are a joke, you keep moaning and whining while PGI keeps fixing all the stuff we ***** about, (like LRMS) and I think it is terrible that you claim to love this franchise so much but won't give an inch when PGI actually does their jobs, which they have worked hard to in the past year.

[Ragnar Darkmane]

DYSEQTA, on 03 July 2013 - 11:28 PM, said:

Well thank you [almost] everyone for ruining what was supposed to be a nice positive thread.

Well, the haters gonna hate.
Stuff like that happens when 80% of the posting members are haters...

[Valore]

Colonel Pada Vinson, on 04 July 2013 - 04:30 AM, said:

I havent had no-reg problems in about 2 months, and aside from the pinpoint dmg issue and the lethargic jumpjets the game plays very well these days, and more fixes are coming.

Good. I'm jealous. And you need to get a sense of empathy, if its that hard to understand how annoyed we get having a very basic functionality of the game not function.

There's a reason why there has been a thead on the subject every patch for the last 4 - 5 patches.

Frankly speaking, I enjoy coming here and arguing. At least it makes me feel like I'm getting my worth from the money I can't get refunded.

Edited by Valore, 04 July 2013 - 04:36 AM.

[Corvus Antaka]

Valore, on 04 July 2013 - 04:36 AM, said:

Frankly speaking, I enjoy coming here and arguing. At least it makes me feel like I'm getting my worth from the money I can't get refunded.

you should file more support tickets if you noreg so much.

im glad the forums keep you entertained while PGI continues to balance and rework the game DURING BETA.

[Valore]

Colonel Pada Vinson, on 04 July 2013 - 04:37 AM, said:

you should file more support tickets if you noreg so much.

im glad the forums keep you entertained while PGI continues to balance and rework the game DURING BETA.

I do. I was actually a lot less annoyed 2 patches ago, because Karl was nice enough to tell me a patch was coming to help with this issue, but unfortunately the patch came, and nothing much was fixed. And now someone probably yelled at Karl for taking the time to talk to us, because now we have complete radio silence. Absolutely great way to inspire confidence.

But after close to 2 months now of being asked to run pingtest, tracert, dxdiag, and all that nonsense, when its clear nothing has changed on my end, well. Let's just say it makes people less than cheerful.