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[MustrumRidcully]

Cathy, on 07 July 2013 - 12:25 AM, said:

Or just simply give it zero, naught, nadda, damage at under 90meters just how it was created in the original game, and like LRMs have an absolute minimum damage, and all missiles have an absolute maximum range.

You're wrong if you thnk that's how it worked in the original game.

PPCs and LRMs both could be fired within their minimum range. You suffered a penalty to your attack roll (1 point penalty for every hex below minimum range, on a 2d6 roll), but you could fire them, and they'd deal full damage if you hit.
Of course, in the table top, the max range of the PPC was also 540, and the max range of the Medium LAser or AC/20 was 270m. You couldn't shoot beyond that.

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T PPC had a minimum range of 3, or 300 meters. However none of us are fighting at TT ranges, or with TT accuracy. Why do people keep blathering about TT? Seriously there is a new game for that.

A minimum range of 3 is a minimum range of 90m. 1 Hex equals about 30m.

Edited by MustrumRidcully, 07 July 2013 - 01:32 AM.

[Purlana]

No one really fights at 90m anyway.

Edited by Purlana, 07 July 2013 - 08:28 AM.

[DeadlyNerd]

MustrumRidcully, on 07 July 2013 - 01:27 AM, said:

You need only one broken mech to get a problem.

For pop-tarting to become a problem,w e only needed the Highlander.
For PPC boating becoming a problem, we only needed the Stalker.

I suppose the only good thing about the AC/40 is right now that there isn't an ASsault that can do it.

Which points us to another problem the game has - Assaults are obviously still the most powerful and most important part of any mech team. Role Warfare isn't there yet.

As long as BV isn't used as a matchmaking criteria, role warfare wont exist. Still, even if it is a problem or boating and the alpha strike meta I'd really like to see how things play out if PPCs were set to 180m min range.

Devs just need to start acting as if this is beta like they named it. We aren't going to see balance as long as they keep the testing internal and hardly change anything at all.

Edited by DeadlyNerd, 07 July 2013 - 10:52 AM.

[Inhibition]

DeadlyNerd, on 06 July 2013 - 11:52 PM, said:

First, I keep things simple.
Second, don't call on copyright since then I should be suing everyone whoever posts a suggestion.
Third, you're hijacking a thread now. I do believe you just labeled yourself a hypocritical douche.
Fourth, if your thread fails due to bad presentation don't blame others who take the spotlight.
Fifth and most relevant, I'm talking about min range for regular PPCs, not ER PPCs. My "suggestion" is completely different. Read the README parts of the OP.

Your response strongly implied taking the idea, posting about it, and defended your action.
You should be proud. I mean you even mentioned "pretty easy to counter"; the same wording
as my original post. Please...
I'm just saying you should acknowledge in the original post that the idea was not yours.
There should just be credit given. Other posters give appropriate credit.

Edited by Inhibition, 07 July 2013 - 03:45 PM.

[KingKalvin]

Mechs with 2 or more PPCs that overheat twice or more within 30 seconds have a 20% chance that the weapon will be destroyed.

[DeadlyNerd]

Inhibition, on 07 July 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

Your response strongly implied taking the idea, posting about it, and defended your action.
You should be proud. I mean you even mentioned "pretty easy to counter"; the same wording
as my original post. Please...
I'm just saying you should acknowledge in the original post that the idea was not yours.
There should just be credit given. Other posters give appropriate credit.

Don't flatter yourself, I didn't even notice your thread until you made a so blatant hijack.

[Odins Fist]

DeadlyNerd, on 06 July 2013 - 12:33 PM, said:

You illiterate or ignorant? Read the readme parts of the OP and stop brainfarting all over.

No, just not stupid. An awful idea is still just an awful idea.. Back up chief.

Lemme guess, you got lots of participation trophies as a kid huh..??

[CancR]

Odins Fist, on 08 July 2013 - 04:05 PM, said:

No, just not stupid. An awful idea is still just an awful idea.. Back up chief.

Lemme guess, you got lots of participation trophies as a kid huh..??

Alot of that going which is why the forums are packed with Skill socialist™ Buff handholding nerf skill™

Edited by CancR, 09 July 2013 - 08:48 AM.

[Bunko]

If 120 meters are the "new" short range ( MG changed to couple patches ago ) I would say bumping it up to 120 might be fine.

PPCs should not be a brawling weapon anyways, reason they are is because of the low heat PGI buffed it to. If you want to fix PPC put the heat levels back to TT.

Edited by Bunko, 09 July 2013 - 09:43 AM.